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' Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke" '

Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:18 pm

" FAW and coaches to blame for Wales' failure - Verheijen "

WORLD CUP 2014 QUALIFYING, GROUP A: WALES V SERBIA

Venue: Cardiff City Stadium Date: Tuesday, 10 September Kick-off: 19:45



Former Wales Assistant manager Raymond Verheijen says the FAW and the current coaching set up must share the blame for the team's poor results.


Verheijen, who resigned in February 2012 after Speed's death, says working with the Welsh football's governing body was a "joke" and claims Speed ignored the "dinosaurs" of the FAW council.


Wales are fifth in World Cup qualifying Group A after losing 2-1 in Macedonia .

"The reality is that what Welsh football needs is influences from outside, because otherwise you keep living in your own little circle."

Raymond Verheijen

Former Wales assistant

Gary Speed's former number two accused Welsh football of having a "jobs for the boys culture".
"It's very sad, especially for the players because they are a very, very talented generation and basically they have lost two years," said Verheijen.
The Dutchman claims the responsibility for the national team's results lies within the FAW.
"The coaching staff first of all of course because they are responsible for turning very talented players into a very strong team which clearly hasn't happened.
"And secondly of course the people who are responsible for appointing this coaching staff, [and] that is of course the FAW.
"But another problem of Welsh football that I've experienced is also, let's say the former players who are part of the media now, who were also strong advocates of jobs for the boys - jobs for their former team-mates so that is also a big problem in Welsh football."
Wales side have managed only two wins - both against Scotland - from seven games in Group A under manager Chris Coleman.
Verheijen, who is an advisor to an Armenia team which can still qualify from Group B, says former Welsh internationals always advocate former team-mates as candidates to be Wales manager.
RECENT WALES MANAGERS

Terry Yorath (1988-93)

John Toshack (1994)

Mike Smith (1994-5)

Bobby Gould (1995-9)

Mark Hughes (1999-2004)

John Toshack (2004-10)

Brian Flynn (2010)

Gary Speed (2010-2011)

Chris Coleman 2012-

He believes Welsh football is too parochial and needs outside influences and views to help it be a success. The only non-Welshmen to have managed Wales were Englishmen Bobby Gould and Mike Smith.
"What I remember from 2011 immediately it was very clear - and I don't know their names - the former national team players in the media immediately made sure one of their former teammates would become the new national team manager," said Verheijen.
"In a way, it is their way of keeping control of Welsh football, while the reality is that what Welsh football needs is influences from outside, because otherwise you keep living in your own little circle."
"What I am saying is that, the former national team players are equally part of the jobs for the boys culture at the FAW, because all the criticism now is towards the FAW.
"I have witnessed some of these former national team players are also part of the problem and are also part of jobs for the boys.
"That is not the intention, but they are part of jobs for the boys but they think they are helping. Their intention is not to take Welsh football down but it is the consequence.
"If some of these people are more open minded and introduce influences from abroad then you give Welsh football a great influence."
Verheijen, who resigned in February 2012 after Speed's death, says working with the Welsh football's governing body was a "joke" and claims Speed ignored the "dinosaurs" of the FAW council.
"It was a joke," said Verheijen.
"In the first few months of 2011, Gary played according to the FAW rules, so he accepted that structure.
"But like Craig Bellamy wrote in his book in the summer of 2011, Gary decided to do it his way and from then on he made decisions on his own.
"He didn't involve those dinosaurs of the committee anymore and that was the start of our success.
"It is unbelievable in modern football that the decision-making process of a national team is done with a group of 75-year-olds at all.
"Maybe it was like that 50 years ago, but that is not how modern football is run these days."




http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24016204

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:27 pm

The guy speaks some sense, some of the stuff he said straight after Speed's death was a bit out of order but he does speak sense most of the time.

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:29 pm

He's been on this forum. :!:

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:32 pm

Cracking interview with him on the "built on sloper rd podcast"

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:34 pm

I can't stand the guy... But every word he says is spot on. I'm glad he's speaking up, even if it is to put himself in the shop window.

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:36 pm

http://www.buzzsprout.com/12600/112299- ... -exclusive

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:40 pm

Question for anyone who can answer it best. How or who can break the FAW down and rebuild it. Is there a way of disbanding this band of brothers or are we stuck in a dictatorship rut?

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:40 pm

Otto wrote:I can't stand the guy... But every word he says is spot on. I'm glad he's speaking up, even if it is to put himself in the shop window.


You said that 3 times

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:40 pm

"In the first few months of 2011, Gary played according to the FAW rules, so he accepted that structure.
"But like Craig Bellamy wrote in his book in the summer of 2011, Gary decided to do it his way and from then on he made decisions on his own.
"He didn't involve those dinosaurs of the committee anymore and that was the start of our success.
"It is unbelievable in modern football that the decision-making process of a national team is done with a group of 75-year-olds at all.
"Maybe it was like that 50 years ago, but that is not how modern football is run these days."


What I like to hear. Glad Gary told them to f**k off.

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:04 pm

cant really argue , the faw need to go, I think every one
knows that, coleman should go as well/

I cant understand why they changed things after speed ?.

and sacking Flynn ???, losing to san marino I would
like them to explain that ??

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:12 pm

Hard to argue with that, to be fair.

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:26 pm

Totally agree with this guy, why are a load of 75 yr old wankers on their death beds running the show! They need to get up with the times of modern football, and introduce a foreign manager to change our fukin shit style.

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:30 pm

Its a shame we will never get to go and watch and experience a euro or world cup with coleman and these old twats running the show. Bet its an awsum time watching your country at a tourny, sort it out FAW before i die bunch of old wankers

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:16 pm

CardiffAnt wrote:
Otto wrote:I can't stand the guy... But every word he says is spot on. I'm glad he's speaking up, even if it is to put himself in the shop window.


You said that 3 times


Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

I think it has something to do with revisiting the sent page or something... Or I just really need some attention. :cry:

Re: ' Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke" '

Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:27 pm

Can't argue with any of that that but then again its more obvious than a bulldogs bollocks. FAW are a serious parochial throwback and are costing us dearly. We cannot continue with this blind blazer brigade for a game longer - this needs to be addressed very quickly. We cannot have a situation when a manager of the caliber of Speed had to effectively operate almost independently of these dinosaurs to progress when they should have been working tooth and nail to support him. Two Welsh teams in the prem, the worlds most expensive player etc. and we have the old guys from the Muppets and their mates presiding over all things football. Afternoon snooze Tegwin? Jeez.

Re: ' Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke" '

Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:42 pm

Gravity wrote:" FAW and coaches to blame for Wales' failure - Verheijen "

WORLD CUP 2014 QUALIFYING, GROUP A: WALES V SERBIA

Venue: Cardiff City Stadium Date: Tuesday, 10 September Kick-off: 19:45



Former Wales Assistant manager Raymond Verheijen says the FAW and the current coaching set up must share the blame for the team's poor results.


Verheijen, who resigned in February 2012 after Speed's death, says working with the Welsh football's governing body was a "joke" and claims Speed ignored the "dinosaurs" of the FAW council.


Wales are fifth in World Cup qualifying Group A after losing 2-1 in Macedonia .

"The reality is that what Welsh football needs is influences from outside, because otherwise you keep living in your own little circle."

Raymond Verheijen

Former Wales assistant

Gary Speed's former number two accused Welsh football of having a "jobs for the boys culture".
"It's very sad, especially for the players because they are a very, very talented generation and basically they have lost two years," said Verheijen.
The Dutchman claims the responsibility for the national team's results lies within the FAW.
"The coaching staff first of all of course because they are responsible for turning very talented players into a very strong team which clearly hasn't happened.
"And secondly of course the people who are responsible for appointing this coaching staff, [and] that is of course the FAW.
"But another problem of Welsh football that I've experienced is also, let's say the former players who are part of the media now, who were also strong advocates of jobs for the boys - jobs for their former team-mates so that is also a big problem in Welsh football."
Wales side have managed only two wins - both against Scotland - from seven games in Group A under manager Chris Coleman.
Verheijen, who is an advisor to an Armenia team which can still qualify from Group B, says former Welsh internationals always advocate former team-mates as candidates to be Wales manager.
RECENT WALES MANAGERS

Terry Yorath (1988-93)

John Toshack (1994)

Mike Smith (1994-5)

Bobby Gould (1995-9)

Mark Hughes (1999-2004)

John Toshack (2004-10)

Brian Flynn (2010)

Gary Speed (2010-2011)

Chris Coleman 2012-

He believes Welsh football is too parochial and needs outside influences and views to help it be a success. The only non-Welshmen to have managed Wales were Englishmen Bobby Gould and Mike Smith.
"What I remember from 2011 immediately it was very clear - and I don't know their names - the former national team players in the media immediately made sure one of their former teammates would become the new national team manager," said Verheijen.
"In a way, it is their way of keeping control of Welsh football, while the reality is that what Welsh football needs is influences from outside, because otherwise you keep living in your own little circle."
"What I am saying is that, the former national team players are equally part of the jobs for the boys culture at the FAW, because all the criticism now is towards the FAW.
"I have witnessed some of these former national team players are also part of the problem and are also part of jobs for the boys.
"That is not the intention, but they are part of jobs for the boys but they think they are helping. Their intention is not to take Welsh football down but it is the consequence.
"If some of these people are more open minded and introduce influences from abroad then you give Welsh football a great influence."
Verheijen, who resigned in February 2012 after Speed's death, says working with the Welsh football's governing body was a "joke" and claims Speed ignored the "dinosaurs" of the FAW council.
"It was a joke," said Verheijen.
"In the first few months of 2011, Gary played according to the FAW rules, so he accepted that structure.
"But like Craig Bellamy wrote in his book in the summer of 2011, Gary decided to do it his way and from then on he made decisions on his own.
"He didn't involve those dinosaurs of the committee anymore and that was the start of our success.
"It is unbelievable in modern football that the decision-making process of a national team is done with a group of 75-year-olds at all.
"Maybe it was like that 50 years ago, but that is not how modern football is run these days."




http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24016204


Mad how the old oaf got a 6 year tenure and failed to win 1 competitive game of note . Shocking

Re: Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke"

Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:49 pm

BigBadG wrote:Totally agree with this guy, why are a load of 75 yr old wankers on their death beds running the show! They need to get up with the times of modern football, and introduce a foreign manager to change our fukin shit style.

Against modern Football :laughing6: :lol: :lol: :lol: :laughing6:

Re: ' Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke" '

Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:11 pm

"FAW are a joke" we know, and its not funny Ray! :cry:

Re: ' Raymond Verheijen "FAW are a joke" '

Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:53 pm

Basically echoing our thoughts and the guy is honest as it comes.