illuminati - Real or Fake?

Anyone think the illuminati is real or fake? I personally think its real!


(Yes it's a random thread)

Seen a few videos such as Illuminati in the music industry and I do tend to agree. Very crazy how life really is

Yeh I've seen videos of if on YouTube and that and it's mental! It's got to be real! They say the illuminati was responsible for the JFK assinastion days after he said wanted to revail them to the world! It's also mad how much of their symbols you seen on kids programmes and music videos!

Yeh I've seen videos of if on YouTube and that and it's mental! It's got to be real! They say the illuminati was responsible for the JFK assinastion days after he said wanted to revail them to the world! It's also mad how much of their symbols you seen on kids programmes and music videos!

I haven't seem the video on that one but I agree entirely, you turn a blind eye to it when you're watching it and even when you're now aware of it, you still don't see the symbols until you watch more videos on it. Freaky as hell how they have such an influence on things

A subject I've been into for a whilst on Reddit Carwyn and a very good thread to create, hopefully we get some good discussion. Just to get the ball rolling we need to appreciate that in recent times 2 major conspiracy theories have been unravelled and its only getting worse by the looks of things.

1. NSA/GCHQ - the spying - everyone said this wasn't happening and was just a conspiracy theory but its been proven otherwise. The same people who then bashed the conspiracy theorists are also the same who after it was proven are now saying they always knew.

2. GM Foods - Well this is a massive thing in the USA at the moment with plenty of scientists linking them to cancer and other illnesses. Monsato is under massive scrutiny and the evidence is flying out day by day officially. Also makes sense when you think of the premiums put on gluten free (which I am myself) and organic food types.

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Stuff like this coming out now in relation to Syria from Armed Forces personnel in the USA.



Seriously if you are interested in this stuff then check out http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/ as there are some very clever people on there with good links to sources and plenty of people collaborating to piece things together. All the Snowden stuff came out on there first as well.

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To be honest, nothing surprises me anymore and I've always, whether people think its anti semitic or not, thought that the Jews controlled the worlds monopolies. The banks owners, the people involved in the media all stem back to Jewish families so if you put all the pieces in the puzzle together you start to build a picture.

People are whipped up to hate Muslims and to see them as the terrorists and the enemy but the enemy lies within.

A subject I've been into for a whilst on Reddit Carwyn and a very good thread to create, hopefully we get some good discussion. Just to get the ball rolling we need to appreciate that in recent times 2 major conspiracy theories have been unravelled and its only getting worse by the looks of things.

1. NSA/GCHQ - the spying - everyone said this wasn't happening and was just a conspiracy theory but its been proven otherwise. The same people who then bashed the conspiracy theorists are also the same who after it was proven are now saying they always knew.

2. GM Foods - Well this is a massive thing in the USA at the moment with plenty of scientists linking them to cancer and other illnesses. Monsato is under massive scrutiny and the evidence is flying out day by day officially. Also makes sense when you think of the premiums put on gluten free (which I am myself) and organic food types.

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Stuff like this coming out now in relation to Syria from Armed Forces personnel in the USA.



Seriously if you are interested in this stuff then check out http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/ as there are some very clever people on there with good links to sources and plenty of people collaborating to piece things together. All the Snowden stuff came out on there first as well.

http://pastebin.com/zeXpsRnh
http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comm ... dumps_mil/

To be honest, nothing surprises me anymore and I've always, whether people think its anti semitic or not, thought that the Jews controlled the worlds monopolies. The banks owners, the people involved in the media all stem back to Jewish families so if you put all the pieces in the puzzle together you start to build a picture.

People are whipped up to hate Muslims and to see them as the terrorists and the enemy but the enemy lies within.

Some very good points there, I haven't been made aware of the political side of things only the media side of things and the influence it has on us.

You may also find interesting :-

The Bildergerg conference - a secret meeting of very influential people with a structure based upon illuminate numbers i.e. 3 groups of 13 = 39.

David Yallop's book - In God's Name. About the alleged assassination of John Paul 1st; the links between Marcinkus, the Mafia, Calvi, Banco Ambrosiano and the P2 lodge.

David Yallop's books have resulted in a posthumous Royal pardon for Derek Bentley; a Royal pardon for Arthur Alan Thomas and he was also able to track down Carlos The Jackal, who was the most wanted man in the world at that time.

I think so. What made me think it is was 9/11. There were quite a few things not right with that and a few secret symbols hinting at it prior to it happening. (Sorry if I offended anyone by mentioning it)

As well as lots of illuminati in music industry by people like Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Jay Z, Beyonce etc. Also sports stars!

Lebron James Devil Horns, 666 & Illuminati Triangle video at a game - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8rSexNF4Ts

Lebron James joining the Miami Heat:

In 2010, Lebron James left the Cleveland Cavaliers to play for the Miami Heat (Heat=Fire=Hell). Upon arriving in Miami, he changed his number to 6. He teams up with Dwayne Wade who’s number is 3. 3 6’s = 666. Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, and Chris Bosh all signed 6 year contracts. 3 6’s= 666.

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Some of you have been reading too many Dan Brown novels

Some of you have been reading too many Dan Brown novels

They said the same about GM Foods and the NSA Craig. Look what happened there aye.

The sooner people realise the government dont give a crap about us the better.

Real without a doubt, that's how so much of the world's money is owned by so few people! Robbing cuunts

http://www.itanimulli.com

Illuminati backwards goes to the NSA website.

Brace yourselves, war is coming.

Some of you have been reading too many Dan Brown novels

They said the same about GM Foods and the NSA Craig. Look what happened there aye.

The sooner people realise the government dont give a crap about us the better.

I agree the government dont give a crap about us.

The illuminati is something very different though. Too many novels for some.

Some of you have been reading too many Dan Brown novels

They said the same about GM Foods and the NSA Craig. Look what happened there aye.

The sooner people realise the government dont give a crap about us the better.

I agree the government dont give a crap about us.

The illuminati is something very different though. Too many novels for some.

The Illuminati is real. I agree though, not in the way some people think. Some of it is just sensationalist crap of course but you have to filter that out yourself.

Anyone watch the xfactor last night?

Did you notice what ear rings the girl who forgot the words was wearing.

Hmmm future star?

Don't know whether they're real or not but I've got enough going on in my own life without worrying about a Matrix style world order!

Not to piss on the thread, like...

Feck ive read this thread just out of curiosity ,and ive got to go and look now

Im amazed so many of you belive. Ive believed since 9 11 too llandaf bluebird. They didnt really pull that off as i remember at the time thinking something heres not quite right. Done some research and sadly i belive in a lot of the illuminati type stuff. Its quite depressing as we cant do anything about it. Whenever i talk about these things ppl think im bonkers tho....

illuminati in Disney channel programmes!

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its 100% real.
Its also been proven and exposed but people choose to ignore it

same as making contact with extra terrestrials its been going for 60 years or more. we wouldn't be where we are now in advancements had we not.

Some more illuminati in Disney channel programmes!

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http://www.itanimulli.com

Illuminati backwards goes to the NSA website.

Brace yourselves, war is coming.

just like love - evol , lived - devil

and so forth quite a few of those

hi, might sound a dick here, but can someone explain what the illuminati is, i have heard many people talk about it before, but i honestly have no idea what they are, or what they do or even what they are trying to achieve ect.

hi, might sound a dick here, but can someone explain what the illuminati is, i have heard many people talk about it before, but i honestly have no idea what they are, or what they do or even what they are trying to achieve ect.

If you want to learn about it I would use the links above for a more detail! But really they are a origination who want world domination, it's all about power and money! Many movie stars, signers and even footballers are part of it! If I was you I'd watch a documentary about it on YouTube! You'll get a better understanding! It's a very interesting topic

It's all very real. The scarier bit is when you look at the ringleaders of it all - Evelyn De Rothschild and David Rockefeller and they're families and people in their immediate employ (Murdoch, Trump etc). They hold all the power, because they control all the money.

They own Reuters (the company who 95% of western media outlets belong to) so they control the news, meaning they give you your perception of world events and disregard what doesn't suit their purpose (the peaceful overthrow of the government in Iceland being a prime example).

They control the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve (both private companies) making them in charge of printing money - which they do so at a cost to us, the tax payer, which we pay through taxation.

They hold annual meetings with heads of state and other massively influential people, where they lay out what the world powers are doing in the next year and beyond (called The Bilderberg Group - look it up).

They create/employ mercenary groups, whom they arm, to go and fake unrest in nations they want the leader to be removed from (Libya, Syria etc).

In Libya, Gaddafi was removed because he was going to stop trading oil in the worthless US dollar and instead trade in a new African Dinar, which was going to be a currency based on value - specifically gold, whereas our currencies are based on nothing. If you want a small bit of proof to that effect then pull out any Bank of England note, across the front of the note it states "I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of" and then five pounds, ten pounds etc, but it stops there. It used to read, I promise to pay the bearer on demand the sum of X pounds of gold - but the banking families scrapped having any value behind our money, so that they can create (and destroy) wealth at their whim. If you don't believe this then feel free to pop down the Bank of England building with your £50 note and ask for your gold, or whatever else they're meant to supply you with and then count the seconds before security sees to your ass hitting the floor outside the building.

But scarier still is why they're really creating unrest in Syria and aiming to "intervene". China and Russia have both warned the US to stay away from Syria - one of they're closest allies, with whom they both have protection treaties signed, but the US - or Illuminati controlled Obama - are trying to goad China and Russia into world war 3, so that they can kill the majority of people on the planet. Why? Because it's far easier for the elitists to control 10 percent of us, than it is to control all of us. They want the Orwellian big brother scenario and are most of the way to it. We've allowed CCTV everywhere, which they're now expanding to use satellite CCTV, which can see you anywhere - even inside buildings, they are systematically creating more and more rules to restrict travel and are developing RFID chips with which they are going to implant everybody and then you keep all your money in your chip, the problem being, if you piss them off, they just turn off your chip.

Whether you like it or not it's all happening - look it up. Why do they meet at Bilderberg every year, why do they suppress freedom of information through they're selective media, they're only pushing gun control in the US so the people have no means to fight back.

I'd encourage anyone to look into all of this and judge for yourself, but if you believe it then it's time to look at what actions we can take as a people, before it's all too late.

hi, might sound a dick here, but can someone explain what the illuminati is, i have heard many people talk about it before, but i honestly have no idea what they are, or what they do or even what they are trying to achieve ect.

If you want to learn about it I would use the links above for a more detail! But really they are a origination who want world domination, it's all about power and money! Many movie stars, signers and even footballers are part of it! If I was you I'd watch a documentary about it on YouTube! You'll get a better understanding! It's a very interesting topic

http://www.rinf.tv is a good place to start. Also, http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ is interesting if not wholly true. It's worth youtubing Aaron Russo and watching what he had to say. Other than that just youtube "illuminati," "Bilderberg group," "David Rockefeller" and so on. Also http://www.youtube.com/user/StormCloudsGathering is a great channel.

Interesting point that! Just sums up how powerful the illuminati/New World Order is! It's all happening rite in front of our eyes and nobody's noticing!

The "illuminati" is such a vague concept.

would who you regard as the "illuminati" call themselves the illuminati? No

Is this world controlled by a small minority of powerful people? yes

whats the glorified concept of illuminati got to do with anything?

Its just a "hollywood" term used by conspiracy theorists to make something which obviously occurs more fascinating and interesting to people making individuals go through a phase of feeling like Sherlock Holmes.

Yes some of the over dramatic documentary type stuff and figures such as Alex Jones @ infowars often bring in convincing arguments which almost make things fall into place, but these arguments are rarely backed up with evidence

The "illuminati" is such a vague concept.

would who you regard as the "illuminati" call themselves the illuminati? No

Is this world controlled by a small minority of powerful people? yes

whats the glorified concept of illuminati got to do with anything?

Its just a "hollywood" term used by conspiracy theorists to make something which obviously occurs more fascinating and interesting to people making individuals go through a phase of feeling like Sherlock Holmes.

Yes some of the over dramatic documentary type stuff and figures such as Alex Jones @ infowars often bring in convincing arguments which almost make things fall into place, but these arguments are rarely backed up with evidence