Tân is Welsh for Fire - as in Fire and Passion.

http://translate.google.co.uk/#en/cy/fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRtnWVvDX6k

im not seeing your point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnn-AVexPvQ

http://translate.google.co.uk/#en/cy/fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRtnWVvDX6k

Good spot. I presume its a coincidence but maybe someone mentioned it to him and that's why "Fire & Passion" made its way onto the badge, I assume that's your point?

Could be and maybe he kept it quite considering on the commotion over the rebrand.

http://translate.google.co.uk/#en/cy/fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRtnWVvDX6k

Good spot. I presume its a coincidence but maybe someone mentioned it to him and that's why "Fire & Passion" made its way onto the badge, I assume that's your point?

Could be and maybe he kept it quite considering on the commotion over the rebrand.

Yep, I think he is meant to be the fire and we fans are the passion.

Hence the reason I posted the Men of Harlech video.

Tan came into existence in China 1122 bc from the name of the state of Tan during the Zhou dynasty. After Wu Wang established the Zhou dynasty in 1122 bc, he enfeoffed the state of Tan to a descendant of the model emperor Yu (2205–2198 bc), with the status of Viscount. Descendants adopted the name of the state Tan as their surname.Tan is a traditional name for sure yet he does not value our traditions.

but fire and passion was written above the tunnel long before Tan arrived at the stadium thats where it came from

Tan came into existence in China 1122 bc from the name of the state of Tan during the Zhou dynasty. After Wu Wang established the Zhou dynasty in 1122 bc, he enfeoffed the state of Tan to a descendant of the model emperor Yu (2205–2198 bc), with the status of Viscount. Descendants adopted the name of the state Tan as their surname.Tan is a traditional name for sure yet he does not value our traditions.

I worked with a bloke once who had a mind like an encyclopedia. You could ask him anything about anything and he could recall it all in great detail at a moment's notice. He was a bit of freak. Well, actually that particular bloke was an out and out freak, but there you go, you meet 'me from time to time.

Anyway, I trust you don't normally walk around with an intimate knowledge of ancient Chinese name etymology, or are you a Professor of Eastern Studies in disguise?

but fire and passion was written above the tunnel long before Tan arrived at the stadium thats where it came from

Being a bit annoying CCS only opened in the summer of 2009 and we first knew of VT's interest in November of that year. Not probably a 'long time' but of course the point is it was there before he arrived.

However, that still doesn't mean he didn't see it and think of incorporating it into what is now known as the 'beer mat' badge? If nothing else it might have been a good line when TG was selling the club to him in the final days of the Ridsdale era.

Tan came into existence in China 1122 bc from the name of the state of Tan during the Zhou dynasty. After Wu Wang established the Zhou dynasty in 1122 bc, he enfeoffed the state of Tan to a descendant of the model emperor Yu (2205–2198 bc), with the status of Viscount. Descendants adopted the name of the state Tan as their surname.Tan is a traditional name for sure yet he does not value our traditions.

I worked with a bloke once who had a mind like an encyclopedia. You could ask him anything about anything and he could recall it all in great detail at a moment's notice. He was a bit of freak. Well, actually that particular bloke was an out and out freak, but there you go, you meet 'me from time to time.

Anyway, I trust you don't normally walk around with an intimate knowledge of ancient Chinese name etymology, or are you a Professor of Eastern Studies in disguise?

No probably a cut & paste from Wikipedia

Tan came into existence in China 1122 bc from the name of the state of Tan during the Zhou dynasty. After Wu Wang established the Zhou dynasty in 1122 bc, he enfeoffed the state of Tan to a descendant of the model emperor Yu (2205–2198 bc), with the status of Viscount. Descendants adopted the name of the state Tan as their surname.Tan is a traditional name for sure yet he does not value our traditions.

I worked with a bloke once who had a mind like an encyclopedia. You could ask him anything about anything and he could recall it all in great detail at a moment's notice. He was a bit of freak. Well, actually that particular bloke was an out and out freak, but there you go, you meet 'me from time to time.

Anyway, I trust you don't normally walk around with an intimate knowledge of ancient Chinese name etymology, or are you a Professor of Eastern Studies in disguise?

Sorry to dissapoint but it was a friends name and he explain the origins of the name .

but fire and passion was written above the tunnel long before Tan arrived at the stadium thats where it came from

Being a bit annoying CCS only opened in the summer of 2009 and we first knew of VT's interest in November of that year. Not probably a 'long time' but of course the point is it was there before he arrived.

However, that still doesn't mean he didn't see it and think of incorporating it into what is now known as the 'beer mat' badge? If nothing else it might have been a good line when TG was selling the club to him in the final days of the Ridsdale era.

ok not so long then lol

but we never had a motto before thats a motto

point being its not something Tan thought up on a whim it was at the club already

but fire and passion was written above the tunnel long before Tan arrived at the stadium thats where it came from

Being a bit annoying CCS only opened in the summer of 2009 and we first knew of VT's interest in November of that year. Not probably a 'long time' but of course the point is it was there before he arrived.

However, that still doesn't mean he didn't see it and think of incorporating it into what is now known as the 'beer mat' badge? If nothing else it might have been a good line when TG was selling the club to him in the final days of the Ridsdale era.

ok not so long then lol

but we never had a motto before thats a motto

point being its not something Tan thought up on a whim it was at the club already

You are correct but I don't think that was the point of the OP which was VT could have made an connection and that's why it made onto the BM?

but fire and passion was written above the tunnel long before Tan arrived at the stadium thats where it came from

Being a bit annoying CCS only opened in the summer of 2009 and we first knew of VT's interest in November of that year. Not probably a 'long time' but of course the point is it was there before he arrived.

However, that still doesn't mean he didn't see it and think of incorporating it into what is now known as the 'beer mat' badge? If nothing else it might have been a good line when TG was selling the club to him in the final days of the Ridsdale era.

ok not so long then lol

but we never had a motto before thats a motto

point being its not something Tan thought up on a whim it was at the club already

You are correct but I don't think that was the point of the OP which was VT could have made an connection and that's why it made onto the BM?

I dont know I suppose you would have to ask the person who thought of putting it up in the tunnel in the first place and see where they got it from and how it was explained to Tan

Tan came into existence in China 1122 bc from the name of the state of Tan during the Zhou dynasty. After Wu Wang established the Zhou dynasty in 1122 bc, he enfeoffed the state of Tan to a descendant of the model emperor Yu (2205–2198 bc), with the status of Viscount. Descendants adopted the name of the state Tan as their surname.Tan is a traditional name for sure yet he does not value our traditions.

I worked with a bloke once who had a mind like an encyclopedia. You could ask him anything about anything and he could recall it all in great detail at a moment's notice. He was a bit of freak. Well, actually that particular bloke was an out and out freak, but there you go, you meet 'me from time to time.

Anyway, I trust you don't normally walk around with an intimate knowledge of ancient Chinese name etymology, or are you a Professor of Eastern Studies in disguise?

Sorry to dissapoint but it was a friends name and he explain the origins of the name .

Fair play to ya, BlueBird64 young fella me' lad.

As a publicity stunt, Tan should announce that he is adding the circumflex to the letter a in his name, then do the Ayatollah to emphasize the point:

Adding a circumflex would only indicate that the vowel "a" is long so he would then be known as taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. I do however have a shorter name I could call him

Breaking news : rydw I'n Hoffi coffi means I like coffee.