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You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:44 pm

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Personally, I'm getting fed up with all this negativity to BU. However, I must confess I am getting fed up with some of the members within BU to be honest and this is no fault of Sian Branson and the other main members involved with the group. Unfortunately, I see some members within the group are continually happy to abuse Tan at will and some of BU's supposed members even come across as deliberately trying to stir up trouble to give the group less credibility.

Having said all that, what I find even more bizarre is I am seeing some of our fans who want us back in blue, saying they will not support BU because of their behaviour. Surely, if you want us in blue, you will ignore some of the clowns within the BU group and still support them? They are currently the only group constantly fighting for us pro blues after all? You may not agree with all of BU's ideas, but surely everyone can see the main group members are trying to do their best to stand and fight for the identity of our club, so why is it so difficult to support them?

At the same time, I respect fans saying they will no longer support BU but instead, just wear blue at games and if we all wear blue and sing pro blue songs, that will be a powerful statement which will be talked about. In my opinion (and it's just my opinion), fans wearing ordinary colours (not blue or red) are not supporting the blue, the only way to support our blue is by wearing blue, otherwise I would (just my opinion), class you under the "not too bothered either way about the rebrand" category.

I see quite a few fans saying they will not attend Sunday's march because they don't support BU, despite these same fans wanting us back in blue. Now if you're not comfortable with BU's plans to march, I understand you not wanting to participate. But if you are honestly going to allow a few idiots with the BU group to stop you from backing the group as a whole, I seriously suggest you consider the bigger picture. After all, you don't protest against something because you like the people you're protesting with, you protest because you share the same beliefs as the people you're protesting with, whether you get along with these other people involved or not.

Personally for me, I am willing to support ANYTHING that demonstrates we are standing up for our identity and if that means I have to unite with fans I don't know, or even don't particularly like, so be it. I am prepared to support our request to get our identity back as long as we are peacefully protesting the correct way. As long as things are done correctly, it's going to take a lot more than allowing a few clowns within a BU group to stop me supporting any effort that BU, or any other group of fans make to try and save our identity. I will be there Sunday wearing my blue colours with pride. This is our first home game and it's great opportunity to show how much we really care about the tradition, heritage and identity of our club!

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:15 pm

Here here so get off ya arses and stand up for the blue. We as a nation just shrug are shoulders at things we don't like such as government decisions , immigration etc and usual acceptance by saying " we'll what can you do it's terrible is it not" . Well for once show a bit of backbone you sell outs. :old:

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:28 pm

Good post.

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:29 pm

Those that have an issue with BU all I want to say to you is wear the blue and lets show solidarity.

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:12 pm

cardiff yid wrote:Here here so get off ya arses and stand up for the blue. We as a nation just shrug are shoulders at things we don't like such as government decisions , immigration etc and usual acceptance by saying " we'll what can you do it's terrible is it not" . Well for once show a bit of backbone you sell outs. :old:


You've totally gone and spoilt your thread by saying sell outs what an idiot do you really think you can win people over now :roll:

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:16 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Those that have an issue with BU all I want to say to you is wear the blue and lets show solidarity.


Im making my own stand. Blue and white retro scarf, blue Cardiff originals t shirt and thats me sorted.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:22 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Those that have an issue with BU all I want to say to you is wear the blue and lets show solidarity.


Im making my own stand. Blue and white retro scarf, blue Cardiff originals t shirt and thats me sorted.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


:ayatollah:

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:23 pm

Never a truer word , if blue is your colour , this is the time to stand up and be counted ! We're marching for the colour & the badge , not for those who want to destabilise the club ! After all , those who call for Tan Out might not be all they seem !?!?

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:32 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Those that have an issue with BU all I want to say to you is wear the blue and lets show solidarity.


Im making my own stand. Blue and white retro scarf, blue Cardiff originals t shirt and thats me sorted.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


What about your group?

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:39 pm

I would support most things Involved with bluebird unite but marching on this day is to be honest a disgrace to the very thing you are trying to save . We as a fan base have supported and followed this great club through thin and thin and now we have our one big moment in the limelight you are taking away from the one day we should all be together celebrating CARDIFF CITY in the premier league . Not marching against a rebrand which could be kept for the week after .
You are just choosing a day when cardiff city will be broadcast all over the world for your own gain .
You are a disgrace to our fan base for ruining this monumentus day , just my opinion though !
If the march was the game after I would be there but this just seems like a desperate attempt to be noticed .
Marching is by nature aggressive , to get vincent tans attention you need to be more versatile not looking pathetic by marching and waving banners
Does anybody in bluebirds unite have any new , original ideas towards being noticed or are you going to constantly keep on with the futile ideas of marching and plastering stickers everywhere in a desperate need for attention ?

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:41 pm

Dylanthomas wrote:
cardiff yid wrote:Here here so get off ya arses and stand up for the blue. We as a nation just shrug are shoulders at things we don't like such as government decisions , immigration etc and usual acceptance by saying " we'll what can you do it's terrible is it not" . Well for once show a bit of backbone you sell outs. :old:


You've totally gone and spoilt your thread by saying sell outs what an idiot do you really think you can win people over now :roll:
....... Firstly who the hell u calling an idiot. Secondly that's my opinion. Truth hurts u fuckwit

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:44 pm

thomasblue wrote:I would support most things Involved with bluebird unite but marching on this day is to be honest a disgrace to the very thing you are trying to save . We as a fan base have supported and followed this great club through thin and thin and now we have our one big moment in the limelight you are taking away from the one day we should all be together celebrating CARDIFF CITY in the premier league . Not marching against a rebrand which could be kept for the week after .
You are just choosing a day when cardiff city will be broadcast all over the world for your own gain .
You are a disgrace to our fan base for ruining this monumentus day , just my opinion though !
If the march was the game after I would be there but this just seems like a desperate attempt to be noticed .
Marching is by nature aggressive , to get vincent tans attention you need to be more versatile not looking pathetic by marching and waving banners
Does anybody in bluebirds unite have any new , original ideas towards being noticed or are you going to constantly keep on with the futile ideas of marching and plastering stickers everywhere in a desperate need for attention ?



Surely the idea of getting noticed is ... er , to get noticed ! To promote that which you promote ie , the colour & the badge !

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:44 pm

thomasblue wrote:I would support most things Involved with bluebird unite but marching on this day is to be honest a disgrace to the very thing you are trying to save . We as a fan base have supported and followed this great club through thin and thin and now we have our one big moment in the limelight you are taking away from the one day we should all be together celebrating CARDIFF CITY in the premier league . Not marching against a rebrand which could be kept for the week after .
You are just choosing a day when cardiff city will be broadcast all over the world for your own gain .
You are a disgrace to our fan base for ruining this monumentus day , just my opinion though !
If the march was the game after I would be there but this just seems like a desperate attempt to be noticed .
Marching is by nature aggressive , to get vincent tans attention you need to be more versatile not looking pathetic by marching and waving banners
Does anybody in bluebirds unite have any new , original ideas towards being noticed or are you going to constantly keep on with the futile ideas of marching and plastering stickers everywhere in a desperate need for attention ?


This is exactly why the march is taking place this Sunday, to get noticed! It would be pointless doing it if we didn't get noticed surely?

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:51 pm

You will get noticed every game this season . This game is about us as fans finally achieving our dream of being a premier league team with no distractions in my opinion . Sunday is about us the club and the team not about a rebrand

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:59 pm

thomasblue wrote:You will get noticed every game this season . This game is about us as fans finally achieving our dream of being a premier league team with no distractions in my opinion . Sunday is about us the club and the team not about a rebrand



I disagree , if Sunday is not about a rebrand , why aren't we playing in blue ! ?

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:02 pm

Coco wrote:
thomasblue wrote:You will get noticed every game this season . This game is about us as fans finally achieving our dream of being a premier league team with no distractions in my opinion . Sunday is about us the club and the team not about a rebrand



I disagree , if Sunday is not about a rebrand , why aren't we playing in blue ! ?


If we were playing in blue we would be in the championship because tan would not have put his money in to get us out of the championship make us premier league ! It's even possible we could be league one And I'm a pro blue just a realist .

Sunday is a celebration for the club not for a f*cking colour !

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:15 pm

cardiff yid wrote:
Dylanthomas wrote:
cardiff yid wrote:Here here so get off ya arses and stand up for the blue. We as a nation just shrug are shoulders at things we don't like such as government decisions , immigration etc and usual acceptance by saying " we'll what can you do it's terrible is it not" . Well for once show a bit of backbone you sell outs. :old:


You've totally gone and spoilt your thread by saying sell outs what an idiot do you really think you can win people over now :roll:
....... Firstly who the hell u calling an idiot. Secondly that's my opinion. Truth hurts u fuckwit


Name calling again dont give it out if you can't take it back that's my opinion

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:32 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Coco wrote:
thomasblue wrote:You will get noticed every game this season . This game is about us as fans finally achieving our dream of being a premier league team with no distractions in my opinion . Sunday is about us the club and the team not about a rebrand



I disagree , if Sunday is not about a rebrand , why aren't we playing in blue ! ?


If we were playing in blue we would be in the championship because tan would not have put his money in to get us out of the championship make us premier league ! It's even possible we could be league one And I'm a pro blue just a realist .

Sunday is a celebration for the club not for a f*cking colour !


... and celebrate we will !

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:38 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Those that have an issue with BU all I want to say to you is wear the blue and lets show solidarity.


Im making my own stand. Blue and white retro scarf, blue Cardiff originals t shirt and thats me sorted.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


What about your group?


You misunderstand Chuckles. My group is my own opinions, my own stand. If people want to get behind that then fair enough but my views are my own and im certainly not going to force them upon anyone. Each to their own.

My stand is mine, some will agree, not everyone and I will do what I feel is right and the right way in restoring traditions that I think we should have or stopping parts of the rebrand that could come along like a name change.

The group was never intended to become the powerful machine that Bluebirds Unite is with its mass support.

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:55 pm

thomasblue wrote:I would support most things Involved with bluebird unite but marching on this day is to be honest a disgrace to the very thing you are trying to save . We as a fan base have supported and followed this great club through thin and thin and now we have our one big moment in the limelight you are taking away from the one day we should all be together celebrating CARDIFF CITY in the premier league . Not marching against a rebrand which could be kept for the week after .
You are just choosing a day when cardiff city will be broadcast all over the world for your own gain .
You are a disgrace to our fan base for ruining this monumentus day , just my opinion though !
If the march was the game after I would be there but this just seems like a desperate attempt to be noticed .
Marching is by nature aggressive , to get vincent tans attention you need to be more versatile not looking pathetic by marching and waving banners
Does anybody in bluebirds unite have any new , original ideas towards being noticed or are you going to constantly keep on with the futile ideas of marching and plastering stickers everywhere in a desperate need for attention ?


THIS^^^^^^^^^^

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:02 pm

thomasblue wrote:I would support most things Involved with bluebird unite but marching on this day is to be honest a disgrace to the very thing you are trying to save . We as a fan base have supported and followed this great club through thin and thin and now we have our one big moment in the limelight you are taking away from the one day we should all be together celebrating CARDIFF CITY in the premier league . Not marching against a rebrand which could be kept for the week after .
You are just choosing a day when cardiff city will be broadcast all over the world for your own gain .
You are a disgrace to our fan base for ruining this monumentus day , just my opinion though !
If the march was the game after I would be there but this just seems like a desperate attempt to be noticed .
Marching is by nature aggressive , to get vincent tans attention you need to be more versatile not looking pathetic by marching and waving banners
Does anybody in bluebirds unite have any new , original ideas towards being noticed or are you going to constantly keep on with the futile ideas of marching and plastering stickers everywhere in a desperate need for attention ?


100% agree. Sky will be lapping it up big time and the papers the next morning I only dread to think of the shit they will print about us as they hate us already and now they are being given the perfect chance to stick the knife.

This ain't going to end well. The more Bluebirds Unite are noticed and mentioned the more Tan will be annoyed that someone is trying to go against his ideology and brand image. With him in power and the person making the changes we as a fan base should be careful.

Tan will retaliate. Some will say he don't care but he will do something in response and whether thats bring up a name change to get all fans crying and up in arms I don't know but we'll soon find out.

Its all going to end in tears for them in my opinion with the way they are going about it. Tan will probably retaliate by removing the bluebird by force. He wouldn't be the first owner to do something by force. He decided to keep it to keep us sweet and when he finds out fans are rising up against him he will soon make them sit back down and show them who is the frigging boss.

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:07 pm

Yeah good post, i'm not particularly a fan of BU because everything is negative if there's one positive thing to say about the club they seem to delete it off their Facebook page like they say they fight for the history and future of the club but our future is the youngsters doing well in the development squad, the other day someone put up a score for the development team and the people on it deleted the post which is really bad.
In my opinion the abuse which Tan gets isn't good, ok he should get a bit because he knew from the start not everybody would agree but he's judged in everything he does or when we lost to west ham i seen someone take it out on Tan on facebook.
I wear Blue to every game i go to home and away, i never buy any red merchandise from the shop the only thing i have bought is last seasons review those are my protests.

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:14 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Those that have an issue with BU all I want to say to you is wear the blue and lets show solidarity.


Agree, I will always wear blue but distance myself from BU.
I just hope they don't try and claim victory for all the blue in the ground.

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:40 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Those that have an issue with BU all I want to say to you is wear the blue and lets show solidarity.


Agree, I will always wear blue but distance myself from BU.
I just hope they don't try and claim victory for all the blue in the ground.


They will though because it fits the MO.

'Look at us, look at us, the only ones fighting for the identity, all the rest of you are pro reds sucking Tan off and begging for dragons'.

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:33 pm

Dylanthomas wrote:
cardiff yid wrote:
Dylanthomas wrote:
cardiff yid wrote:Here here so get off ya arses and stand up for the blue. We as a nation just shrug are shoulders at things we don't like such as government decisions , immigration etc and usual acceptance by saying " we'll what can you do it's terrible is it not" . Well for once show a bit of backbone you sell outs. :old:


You've totally gone and spoilt your thread by saying sell outs what an idiot do you really think you can win people over now :roll:
....... Firstly who the hell u calling an idiot. Secondly that's my opinion. Truth hurts u fuckwit


Name calling again dont give it out if you can't take it back that's my opinion


By the way you started the name calling first by calling him an idiot you idiot :lol:

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:35 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Those that have an issue with BU all I want to say to you is wear the blue and lets show solidarity.


Agree, I will always wear blue but distance myself from BU.
I just hope they don't try and claim victory for all the blue in the ground.


They will though because it fits the MO.

'Look at us, look at us, the only ones fighting for the identity, all the rest of you are pro reds sucking Tan off and begging for dragons'.



Where does the quote originate ?!

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:40 pm

Coco wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Those that have an issue with BU all I want to say to you is wear the blue and lets show solidarity.


Agree, I will always wear blue but distance myself from BU.
I just hope they don't try and claim victory for all the blue in the ground.


They will though because it fits the MO.

'Look at us, look at us, the only ones fighting for the identity, all the rest of you are pro reds sucking Tan off and begging for dragons'.



Where does the quote originate ?!


1. Look at us <-- the fact of the march and on Sky and the billboard
2. the only ones fighting for identity..... <-- the fact others who haven't joined BU's cause have been abused and called pro reds even though it might not be true

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:48 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Coco wrote:
JBCCFC1927 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Those that have an issue with BU all I want to say to you is wear the blue and lets show solidarity.


Agree, I will always wear blue but distance myself from BU.
I just hope they don't try and claim victory for all the blue in the ground.


They will though because it fits the MO.

'Look at us, look at us, the only ones fighting for the identity, all the rest of you are pro reds sucking Tan off and begging for dragons'.



Where does the quote originate ?!


1. Look at us <-- the fact of the march and on Sky and the billboard
2. the only ones fighting for identity..... <-- the fact others who haven't joined BU's cause have been abused and called pro reds even though it might not be true


Is BU not purely promoting the return of the blue kit & reinstatement of Bluebird to it's previous significance !?

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:55 pm

Coco wrote:Is BU not purely promoting the return of the blue kit & reinstatement of Bluebird to it's previous significance !?


and a lot of self promotion to go with it. :thumbup:

Re: You don't have to like BU to fight for our identity!

Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:10 pm

JBCCFC1927 wrote:
Coco wrote:Is BU not purely promoting the return of the blue kit & reinstatement of Bluebird to it's previous significance !?


and a lot of self promotion to go with it. :thumbup:



Self-promo of the group , the reason that group exists or certain individuals within that group ?

Surely promotion of the message , it's raison d'etre , is part & parcel of why that groups exists , it's purpose has to be to ensure VT is aware that whilst BU is grateful for the many positive aspects of his tenure the price , to many though not all , is too high !?

As far as I'm aware there is currently no other organised proactive mass of pro-blue fans , not for one minute of course , marginalising those who advocate , the wearing of blue to games alone !