New Group To Restore Tradition - The Ninian Stand

I know its yet another group but there are many unhappy with whats going on at Bluebirds Unite so rather than have these people branded pro reds or abused, which many are not and are just fans who peacefully want to go about things, I thought about making a stand to restore our traditional kit and work on a badge that is modernised and in the interests of all. The current badge i'm sure most of us agree does not show Cardiff City FC in the best light at all.

I believe another group that supports a return and gets more fans onside is surely better than leaving these fans feel as outcasts and alienated if they do not feel as if they can pledge support to the current groups on offer. i.e. Bluebirds Unite. I am not wishing to compete with Bluebirds Unite at all and they can get on with things peacefully in their own right.

This is an online campaign mainly with possible flag donations to get a voice within the stadium as well and to bring together clever ideas that support the groups overall aim. Badge designs, flag designs and as someone with an interest in Photoshop myself I will of course get involved with others so hopefully those with an artistic nature get involved also.

The website also has a blog section ready for members to add their opinion on the rebrand and give their opinion without having to face the backlash that might ensue if they air their views elsewhere. Please remember that if you do become a member that your views are reflected on the group as a whole and anything deemed offensive in any way will not be tolerated as the group tries to maintain a professional image.

The current site is my blog converted and can be found at: http://aviewfromabluebird.wordpress.com/

The Twitter page for the group is already set up and the official domain is in the process of propagation and will point towards the blog once it has completed so it will also have an official and professional URL.

I am funding the domain entirely myself and on a non profit basis. If we decide to create a fund later ALL MONEY collected will go back into purchasing flags or putting down an order for blue scarfs or cards to be taken into the stadium.

We hope you at least take a look at our aims on the website even if you then decide to not get involved.

Please message us on Twitter if you wish to get involved and contribute.

Thank you,

The Ninian Stand - making a stand for what is right!

Aim to get blue back?

If you want blue back then Bluebirds Unite is the group to join.

Aim to get blue back?

Yes but in the right manner and with few members who are known to all and can contribute to the groups aims. A modern badge that is professionally designed and to restore blue as the home kit with yellow and white trim.

You can find the aims and full information on the website Alex.

I don't get it

I thought you were red? What tradition are you trying to restore? Bringing blue back? I'm sure that's what Bluebirds Unite are trying to do

Small steps....longer strides

If you want blue back then Bluebirds Unite is the group to join.

This is not competition to Bluebirds Unite. If you wish to join them and help towards pursuing their goals then you are free to do so and your decision will be respected. This group only wants few members who are known so it can be controlled properly and moderated.

Not everybody wants to join Bluebirds Unite and its better to give these people an alternative they can pledge support too than to cast them as outcasts and make them feel as if they are 'bad' Cardiff City fans. Only by working together will we achieve our goals.

Aim to get blue back?

Yes but in the right manner and with few members who are known to all and can contribute to the groups aims. A modern badge that is professionally designed and to restore blue as the home kit with yellow and white trim.

You can find the aims and full information on the website Alex.

So bascially what Bluebirds Unite are doing (other than the whole design a better badge thing)

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I don't get it

I thought you were red? What tradition are you trying to restore? Bringing blue back? I'm sure that's what Bluebirds Unite are trying to do

Everything is explained on the website. We have similar aims as Bluebirds Unite but believe in a different approach in achieving them. We wish Bluebirds Unite the best in their efforts to restore us to the traditional kit and we hope they can achieve that whilst ensuring the club is financially stable .If you wish to support them that is your right and we respect that decision. That's entirely down to you.

I don't get it

I thought you were red? What tradition are you trying to restore? Bringing blue back? I'm sure that's what Bluebirds Unite are trying to do

He's young and trying to work it all out. A bit like when that first girl comes along thinking she is the one.

What are the aims for this group and what action will you be taking to be noticeable and make a difference ?( ie marches)

If you want blue back then Bluebirds Unite is the group to join.

good to have options, alot of people don't want to be a member of BU

So bascially what Bluebirds Unite are doing

No. Bluebirds Unite have loads of members and a presence of meetings and events. They have, to some, been given a bad image by a minority and therefore there are people don't want to associate with Bluebirds Unite. Bluebirds Unite have plenty of members who get involved.

We will have at maximum 50 members who communicate online and seek dialogue with the club and try and get things done that way without a minority damaging the reputation of the group whilst trying to achieve our aims.

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What are the aims for this group and what action will you be taking to be noticeable and make a difference ?( ie marches)

http://aviewfromabluebird.wordpress.com/

I've no problem with anyone standing up and acting on what they believe. Good luck!

I've no problem with anyone standing up and acting on what they believe. Good luck!

Cheers Chuckles.

I would be interested Barnett but going by your track record of switching sides and what you believe in I'm dubious about this group

I admit interest too, but agree with CJ, you've changed opinion on this a fair few times. Only earlier you were describing yourself as a "yellow".

I might be a pain in the arse regarding the rebrand, but at least it's consistent.

So bascially what Bluebirds Unite are doing

No. Bluebirds Unite have loads of members and a presence of meetings and events. They have, to some, been given a bad image by a minority and therefore there are people don't want to associate with Bluebirds Unite. Bluebirds Unite have plenty of members who get involved.

We will have at maximum 50 members who communicate online and seek dialogue with the club and try and get things done that way without a minority damaging the reputation of the group whilst trying to achieve our aims.

With your reputation, you won't get much support, but good luck

What we need is a pro blue group which has a massive lean towards charitable donations , organised family days , five a side kids tournaments , charity racing nights for the adults in different venues .
Not marches which by nature look aggressive , not putting huge billboards up wasting money collected which could have gone to a good cause and pissing tan off , not covering the place with pathetic little stickers .

Tans got a huge weakness for charity , can't believe none of these groups have ever picked up on it . If he finds out about a group which are polite and non aggressive that are doing loads of work for charity's in the area giving decent size cheques out he would be more impressed and more likely to talk to these groups . Use his weakness against him whilst also doing some much needed work in our community

What we need is a pro blue group which has a massive lean towards charitable donations , organised family days , five a side kids tournaments , charity racing nights for the adults in different venues .
Not marches which by nature look aggressive , not putting huge billboards up wasting money collected which could have gone to a good cause and pissing tan off , not covering the place with pathetic little stickers .

Tans got a huge weakness for charity , can't believe none of these groups have ever picked up on it . If he finds out about a group which are polite and non aggressive that are doing loads of work for charity's in the area giving decent size cheques out he would be more impressed and more likely to talk to these groups . Use his weakness against him whilst also doing some much needed work in our community

The only aim for Bluebirds Unite is to get blue back, not to raise money for charities...

I would be interested Barnett but going by your track record of switching sides and what you believe in I'm dubious about this group

With Tan's comments about the name change I think its certainly possible we'll be seeing Cardiff City Dragons FC sooner than we think. Thats my concern and a name change for me and I think plenty of others will be the final straw.

I admit interest too, but agree with CJ, you've changed opinion on this a fair few times. Only earlier you were describing yourself as a "yellow".

Its up to you entirely. I said I was a yellow joking about as its the middle ground really - neutral - not blue, not red and I think the split in our fan base is ridiculous - whether you blame Tan for that or not its still bad and needs solving. The yellow kit seems to be the only kit you can go anywhere safe with everyone calling pro blues names and those who wear red sellouts.

Im not looking to discuss that or my joking around - forum banter - this is a serious campaign that I wish to get going with other people involved and for the right reasons. People can pledge support to what they want and thats their choice and only their choice. People stated they cant join Bluebirds Unite and now their is an alternative and as you can see from the statement I am approaching this professionally in the right way.

I do not wish to waste my own time and money on this cause. I just don't want the club to end up with a nickname associated with the actual name. Seeing Hull City Tigers today listed was a massive wake up call in itself.

What we need is a pro blue group which has a massive lean towards charitable donations , organised family days , five a side kids tournaments , charity racing nights for the adults in different venues .
Not marches which by nature look aggressive , not putting huge billboards up wasting money collected which could have gone to a good cause and pissing tan off , not covering the place with pathetic little stickers .

Tans got a huge weakness for charity , can't believe none of these groups have ever picked up on it . If he finds out about a group which are polite and non aggressive that are doing loads of work for charity's in the area giving decent size cheques out he would be more impressed and more likely to talk to these groups . Use his weakness against him whilst also doing some much needed work in our community

The only aim for Bluebirds Unite is to get blue back, not to raise money for charities...

And that's why it will fail , to narrow minded , selfish and naieve. Shame because at first the group had potential . It doesn't have to be charities it could be kits for local kids football teams there's quite a few on here looking for donations .

In fairness BU have already donated money to charity.

In fairness BU have already donated money to charity.

This is true.

Also Chuckles, why aren't you involved with Bluebirds Unite?

A 'small group' with a maximum of '50 members' who are 'well known.'

Sounds exclusive and more for your ego in my opinion.

A 'small group' with a maximum of '50 members' who are 'well known.'

Sounds exclusive and more for your ego in my opinion.

Do you want the club back in blue and if the name changes how would you feel about it?

Nothing to do with my ego but when you see Hull City Tigers vs Chelsea FC it really shows how bad it can become for us if Tan goes through with a name change and thats my worry.

The less members the easier it is to moderate and keep professional without people tarnishing the groups image as has happened with Bluebirds Unite.

A 'small group' with a maximum of '50 members' who are 'well known.'

Sounds exclusive and more for your ego in my opinion.

Do you want the club back in blue and if the name changes how would you feel about it?

Nothing to do with my ego but when you see Hull City Tigers vs Chelsea FC it really shows how bad it can become for us if Tan goes through with a name change and thats my worry.

The less members the easier it is to moderate and keep professional without people tarnishing the groups image as has happened with Bluebirds Unite.

The less members there are the less the effect. If you want to make a stand you need a high % of supporters to be members to prove that is what the fans want and that you have the support of the majority.

Why may I ask does the group need to be made up of 'well known supporters' what is the effect of that supposed to be?

I've supported BU since I realised I was wrong about them after their first march. I've attended meetings & everyone who is "hands on" at BU are lovely & have the right attitudes ie want blue back in the right way).

What I feel is ruining BU, is the extreme element on the BU fb page, who are posting their own views, but making it look like the views of BU by doing it on their page.

If you have views, post them on your own page, that's what I think should happen. I've said this directly to the group and Sian, so please don't think I'm bitching. The constant attacks of other fans is alienating the fans base & not uniting anyone.

I hope it gets sorted before its damaged beyond repair.

The less members there are the less the effect. If you want to make a stand you need a high % of supporters to be members to prove that is what the fans want.

Why may I ask does the group need to be made up of 'well known supporters' what is the effect of that supposed to be?

Of course you can ask.

I mean they will become well known once they join the group so that if they act out of order then they will be banned for their actions to not bring the groups efforts into disrepute.

If you look on the website there is a members page and each member will go on there and if a member on there abuses you on the forum, facebook and twitter or says something racist or whatever then you just inform us, provide evidence of what happened and it will be dealt with and you'll be given an apology and we'll find a replacement member.

The reason we want less members is to make it easier to stop that happening. Less members does not lower the effect in the slightest. Our approach is entirely different to that of Bluebirds Unite and that will be discussed further down the line when more people get involved but we do as a first stage approach want to communicate with the club and we will be working on trying to create a relationship with the club and make it known we do not wish to cause problems but work together and also promote the groups aims in the right way with blue cards at the stadium and so forth at the right time.