As a Parent would you stand up or do you sit back &hope?

Bit of advice needed here guys.. ESP from Home owners with Families...


The situation is;the guy who lives opposite me is in his early 40's a bit of a header to say the least.He has recently kicked his wife and kids out of the house he now (over weekends) just drinks and does drugs,has about 20/30 youngsters in and around his house. They treat as any youngster would as its not their home and there's no rules...
I work a lot so the wife bears the brunt of the action. However with all this lovely weather we've been getting as late,My little girls play time in the garden has been severely limited... Infact anyone's time in garden is limited because of the antics of this mob. I emailed the local council (Asbos) not something I'd normally do but they've wrecked the fences around the area smashing the place to bits and constant fighting and foul language has left me no choice. His next door neighbour (young mum of 2) asked him to cool thing down to which the response was abusive and sexually orientated. (She had baby in her arms)

I've told my wife under no circumstances to engage them,just ignore them.

Council has contacted me to tell me he is getting served with an Asbo, and I've just this second found out his brother is due to be realised next month after serving time for murder

Would you speak out or keep out?

Balaclava on at night and bat in hand will sort the situation because the people who are supposed to sort the problem do not give a f**k all you will get is a report book where u have to write shit down and times, the systems fucked, i had to beat my neighbour up twice before he moved out the druged up scumbag

Last edited by Bluebird1977 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:45 pm, edited 2 times in total.

do you know if he owns the house..?

You have got to think of your Mrs/kids.

Just sit back for time being and see what happens, he may change his ways if not the "Asbo" could be enforced.

Out of interest is it a council property/housing assoc/owner occupier?

Instinct is to try and negotiate and if necessary go toe to toe. However, remember he has nothing to lose and the background that suggests he wouldn't care anyway. You on the other hand have a family you care for and care for you in return.

Stay well clear and and at least give the authorities a chance to deal with it. In the meantime canvas the area you will find there are loads on your side.

Failing that we'll all come around and give him a visit, making sure there's at least three of us for every spotty teenager.

The police or council won't do a thing.

Its a tricky one when you got a wife and kids to consider.You will have to go down the legal route and its a long drawn out painfull affair.Try not to engage with him yourself and approach the police and council as a residents group.Its sad for your kids that they cant enjoy the summer because of some drugged up loony who cant grow up.Good luck fella.

The police or council won't do a thing.

From my experience if the house is owned by the local authoirty then you are very much mistaken

The police or council won't do a thing.

From my experience if the house is owned by the local authoirty then you are very much mistaken

To my knowledge the house is owned but he stopped paying the mortgage... A few months back!!!
I think the Bank are letting him accrue enough debt so they can repossess it...


Quicker the better....

You really need all the neighbours to get on board, and all keep complaining to the council and police. If its just you who puts in a complaint then the council won't do much, just offer mediation or some crap like that, but if everyone complains, and keeps on complaining and documenting every incident, then it will force the council to take action. Have a word with your neighbours, and all work as one. The fact he's already on an asbo will speed things up

he will be out soon enough so maybe sit tight. Alt, you must know a few "people" who you can get together
with and have a word when he's alone. The kids that hang there wont give one and will just move on to the next
house they can piss about in. Where do you live? without giving to much away?

The police or council won't do a thing.

From my experience if the house is owned by the local authoirty then you are very much mistaken

To my knowledge the house is owned but he stopped paying the mortgage... A few months back!!!
I think the Bank are letting him accrue enough debt so they can repossess it...


Quicker the better....

If you know the the mortgage company is and you advise them what is happening they may act quicker to protect the property value.

The police or council won't do a thing.

From my experience if the house is owned by the local authoirty then you are very much mistaken

To my knowledge the house is owned but he stopped paying the mortgage... A few months back!!!
I think the Bank are letting him accrue enough debt so they can repossess it...


Quicker the better....

If he has a mortgage on there then it is alot harder than if it was council owned. You best bet is to get your local councillors onside and be a right pain in the arse to them as its issues like this which is what you pay their wage for.

You really need all the neighbours to get on board, and all keep complaining to the council and police. If its just you who puts in a complaint then the council won't do much, just offer mediation or some crap like that, but if everyone complains, and keeps on complaining and documenting every incident, then it will force the council to take action. Have a word with your neighbours, and all work as one. The fact he's already on an asbo will speed things up

Great answer.

How old are all the kids hanging around his house? If they are younger than sixteen, we are talking minors and the police may react quicker.

I'm not saying this course of action is for you, but if he was my neighbour and the kids seemed under 16 I would be explaining to the police how I could not live with myself if I turned a blind eye to what was going on and then find something awful had happened.

Bit of advice needed here guys.. ESP from Home owners with Families...


The situation is;the guy who lives opposite me is in his early 40's a bit of a header to say the least.He has recently kicked his wife and kids out of the house he now (over weekends) just drinks and does drugs,has about 20/30 youngsters in and around his house. They treat as any youngster would as its not their home and there's no rules...
I work a lot so the wife bears the brunt of the action. However with all this lovely weather we've been getting as late,My little girls play time in the garden has been severely limited... Infact anyone's time in garden is limited because of the antics of this mob. I emailed the local council (Asbos) not something I'd normally do but they've wrecked the fences around the area smashing the place to bits and constant fighting and foul language has left me no choice. His next door neighbour (young mum of 2) asked him to cool thing down to which the response was abusive and sexually orientated. (She had baby in her arms)

I've told my wife under no circumstances to engage them,just ignore them.

Council has contacted me to tell me he is getting served with an Asbo, and I've just this second found out his brother is due to be realised next month after serving time for murder

Would you speak out or keep out?

Taken from the Citizens Advice website

Noise

Dealing with noisy neighbours

As a first step, you should talk to your neighbour making the noise and ask them to reduce the noise. If the noise is not reduced and your neighbour is a tenant, it may be worth contacting your neighbour’s landlord. If the problem persists it is useful to keep a record/diary of the disturbances which can be used as evidence in any future action.

Local authorities (local councils in Northern Ireland) have extensive powers to deal with noise nuisances. You can ask the Environmental Health Officer (EHO) to investigate the noise. They are able to measure the level of noise and to give an expert opinion on how it rates as a noise nuisance. Local authorities have powers to seize noise-making equipment.

If the EHO considers there is a noise nuisance and has been unable to resolve the matter by discussion, the authority can then serve a notice on the person causing the noise, or on the owner or occupier of the property. If the person causing the noise does not comply with the notice, the local authority can prosecute them. The local authority can also apply for an injunction.

If you are unhappy about the service you have received from the local authority or from your landlord, you may want to contact an Ombudsman for help.

I really sypathise with you mate i know what i would do,but you have a family to think about and like you say you work alot,be patient mate and hope the legal system will sort it for you,good luck

It's because my neighbour and myself have reported him that he was served with the Asbo today.
The council bloke phoned me earlier to say that they we enroute to deliver and speak with surrounding neighbours.

I'm a big guy and can handle myself well enough, don't go looking for it,never have to be fair...

Dabbled in footie side once or twice culminating in the gayest punch ever seen thrown outside white heart lane.

But I don't want to bring my little girl up around any sort of violence.


My biggest fear is if he comes knocking causing shit and my wife and little one are home,I will be on defence mode. Don't know what I would be capable of (does anyone) if my fam is being threatened?

It's because my neighbour and myself have reported him that he was served with the Asbo today.
The council bloke phoned me earlier to say that they we enroute to deliver and speak with surrounding neighbours.

I'm a big guy and can handle myself well enough, don't go looking for it,never have to be fair...

Dabbled in footie side once or twice culminating in the gayest punch ever seen thrown outside white heart lane.

But I don't want to bring my little girl up around any sort of violence.


My biggest fear is if he comes knocking causing shit and my wife and little one are home,I will be on defence mode. Don't know what I would be capable of (does anyone) if my fam is being threatened?

Would hate to be in your position, just keep on reporting him & take notes of what they are doing & dates of when something hsppens. Good luck with everything.

Get your neighbours and yourself to complain to the local councillor, in my opinion the police will just pay lip service to your problem. However they have no option to act if the local councillor get's involved, the more pressure you put on the councillor the more he'll put on the police. Anyway good luck it may take time but it will go away.

The amount of similar cases I used to have when I was a councillor was incredible.

The mindset of councils is appalling, which they like to put a bad household next to a nice household in the hope that the niceness will rub off on the bad family and improve their lifestyle. However it never works and instead creates a street which used to be a nice place to live into a shithole after a few years!!!

As a family man myself who can look after myself I have never had anybody in particular causing me problems but people know what your capable of,if I have had a problem I just go and politely have a word with the moron and tell him nicely that if they could do me a favour eg no racing through my street or partying too late again and it has worked for me,i think the guy may be a bit wary if he knows you can look after yourself.90 percent of nuisances are a bag of shit if you stand your ground.Hope it all works out for you as a fellow family man.

The police or council won't do a thing.

From my experience if the house is owned by the local authoirty then you are very much mistaken

I don't know where you live but near me they do bugger all. The typical response is 'we can't do anything without collected evidence' so then you got to go out of your way and put yourself out to help them catch the frigging person.

I feel sorry for the OP as with children around its a very hard issue. I would suggest that you and others in the street form a group, have meetings, get info to pass on to the council and hopefully your joint efforts gets them evicted.

Don't get me wrong guys, I'm not moaning about people having a party in this glorious weather..
I hope I'm not coming across like that..

What I'm seeing is late Thursday night they appear and start drinking and what have you. They then finish about 3 am Monday morning... It's happened almost every weekend during the nice spell..

I try to play in my garden with Chloe(my daughter) and I find myself not at ease, constantly looking over.. Thinking what they gonna do next? You hear the odd "f**k's he looking at?" And that aimed at me with a 2yr old .....


They intimidate and abuse people around them (Bully Like) and I hate these type of people...

I am fully committed to seeing this through and I know at some point in gonna get the "You f*cking Grass" accusation and odd threat.. I don't care about them popping pills and smoking dope, I've done a fair bit when I was younger.But there is a time and a place....