Fair play lets try and support this fellow

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Swans fan hoping to unite with rivals Cardiff for fundraiser
South Wales Evening Post

Aug 5, 2013 9:20AM

A SWANSEA City supporter is hoping to build bridges with rivals Cardiff whilst raising money for charity.

Paul Harris, of Cwmllynfell, has organised a 41-mile stadium walk from Swansea’s Liberty Stadium to Cardiff City’s home turf at the weekend.
The 43-year-old has arranged the walk in a bid to raise £3,000 for Golau Cancer Foundation for his fundraising Kilimanjaro trek in February next year.
Paul said: “I thought of doing this stadium walk before, because it’s about raising money and will build relations between the two clubs. I think we all know the history between the two groups of supporters, so I think it would be good to try and change that.”

The group of four friends will be setting off from Liberty Stadium at 8am on Saturday and will be arriving at Cardiff City Stadium sometime on Sunday after an overnight camp.

Paul, who works in the health records department of Morriston Hospital, said if the first walk is a success he would like to see it become a regular event. “If this goes well, I would like it to become an annual event,” he said.

He is also hoping to hold local fundraising events, including a charity dog walk, a raffle, bake sale and more. Paul said climbing Mount Kilimanjaro, in Tanzania, is something he has always wanted to do, so when he saw the opportunity to raise awareness and funds for Golau Cancer Foundation, which based at Singleton Hospital, he decided to take up the challenge. Paul will be taking on the 5,895 metre climb with up to 10 colleagues from Abertawe Bro Morgannwg Health Board.

“It is something I have always wanted to do, I am more excited than anything else,” he added.

You can make a donation at http://www.justgiving.com/PaulHarris999

Good luck to the fella and not for one minute do I question his devotion.

However, I'm always frustrated at these fund raising ideas. What does climbing up Kilimanjaro really achieve? Personally I would like to see fund raisers do something in the local community. For example why don't they do sponsored shifts in a nursing home or a sponsored clean up of a public area?

To me that is far better than wasting fund raised money on flights to Tanzania or shoe leather on walking from Liberty to CCS. May be I'm just a grumpy old git but it still sort of niggles with me.

What does climbing up Kilimanjaro really achieve?

It creates more of an interest, which in turn, creates more money raised. Someone is far more likely to sponsor a feat such as Kilimanjaro, rather than someone who's done some shifts in a hospital.

What does climbing up Kilimanjaro really achieve?

It creates more of an interest, which in turn, creates more money raised. Someone is far more likely to sponsor a feat such as Kilimanjaro, rather than someone who's done some shifts in a hospital.

This. Sponsored shifts etc would do more good, however would the Evening Post have covered it? Probably not. Therefore he wouldn't have raised enough money. Pros and cons of both of course, but capturing people's imagination will end up with more donations, NQAT.

Good luck to the bloke.

I always wondered what it cost to get over to Kilimanjaro and climb it. It's surely money that could go direct to the charity, but if it works and raises money then fantastic.

Perhaps Cardiff fans could walk the other way and there could be a meet halfway.

I always wondered what it cost to get over to Kilimanjaro and climb it. It's surely money that could go direct to the charity, but if it works and raises money then fantastic.

Perhaps Cardiff fans could walk the other way and there could be a meet halfway.

Put my name down for that !

I'm all for charity but why build bridges? Don't we all enjoy hating each other?(in a football context)
They'll be merging the two clubs for far eastern super tour next.

Good luck to the fella and not for one minute do I question his devotion.

However, I'm always frustrated at these fund raising ideas. What does climbing up Kilimanjaro really achieve? Personally I would like to see fund raisers do something in the local community. For example why don't they do sponsored shifts in a nursing home or a sponsored clean up of a public area?

To me that is far better than wasting fund raised money on flights to Tanzania or shoe leather on walking from Liberty to CCS. May be I'm just a grumpy old git but it still sort of niggles with me.

You are not completely wrong here Tony.

Please here me out before I get slagged off and I do get where chuckles is coming from but these things are popping up all the time now.

There was only the other day a Cardiff Fan on CCMB asking for sponsorship for the exact same thing, ie
Kilimanjaro (different charity) and I also personally know 3 other people currently raising money for a Kilimanjaro climb.

I also work with a girl who is doing a walk of the great wall of china and has to raise £8000 to do it plus a fella who
has to raise £3000 to do next years London Marathon.

I read on a Website the other day that the average cost to do Kilimanjaro is £1350 plus you have to pay your flights on top all
of which comes out of what has been raised so if you raise £6000, £2000 plus goes on the cost of it.

I know its a double edged sword as the charity still gets £4k and I suppose people could say that justifies it in itself and its hard to argue against that but it is just my own opinion that there has got to be better ways of raising money for charity than this and as awful as this sounds for me to say its does feel like your funding someones own experience of a lifetime?

For myself I just stick to sponsoring people I know personally now and have a direct debit coming out split over 4 charity's a month.

There was a guy on the Radio the other day from the Charity's saying the exact same thing, unless your a celebrity and likely to raise some serious cash there has got to be better ways to do it?

Just my opinion sorry, I feel bad writing this but Its how I view it, happy for someone to try and change my mind.

Understand your opinion mate. Your example Is a good one though. You say that Kilimanjaro may raise 4k profit for doing it (taking away costs) I still cannot see an individual making 4k from doing a bit of volunteering work..

It may be wrong, but that's how it is.

Understand your opinion mate. Your example Is a good one though. You say that Kilimanjaro may raise 4k profit for doing it (taking away costs) I still cannot see an individual making 4k from doing a bit of volunteering work..

It may be wrong, but that's how it is.

Yeah I do tend to agree mate to be honest on that example.

Its hard to argue against isn't it?

To be honest until I hered this piece on the Radio I had never really thought about it and this guy was saying
how some of these company's who run these trips are taking thousands away from the charity's and making vast profits but
I was thinking to myself, yeah that maybe the case but your still getting money for charity that you wouldn't have got otherwise.

But overall I come to my conclusion cos at the end of the day, say for instance this Jack fella Paul raises £3,000, £2000 plus
of that would be the cost of the trip so surely he could find a better way to raise say 7-800 quid and you cant expect people
to give all the time, especially to be people they don't even know and I dont think you can justify collecting £3,000 off people and only giving say £800 to charity? Maybe if there was a disclosure saying unless a certain target is reached, ALL the money goes to the charity instead of the doing the trek, maybe that would put an end to peoples misgivings about these sort of things?

The number one way to raise money at the moment seems to be to get into a supermarket on the checkouts, these guys must be raising loads, its quick and easy and doesn't cost a penny to do.

I hope I don't come across as a wanker in this thread

Normally the trip itself would be paid out of his own money I'm guessing rather than taking it out of the charity money raised

Normally the trip itself would be paid out of his own money I'm guessing rather than taking it out of the charity money raised

No mate, 99% of the time it comes out of the money raised, there might be the odd exception where someone pays
the costs themselves but not very often.

What does climbing up Kilimanjaro really achieve?

It creates more of an interest, which in turn, creates more money raised. Someone is far more likely to sponsor a feat such as Kilimanjaro, rather than someone who's done some shifts in a hospital.

That totally misses the point. Climbing Kilimanjaro has been done a million times. May be the first time it might have been something special but not now.

I still applaud the guy for giving his free time but I still think that fund raising should take place in the local community and be of benefit to the community which is providing the donations. It is just an opinion of mine, but if someone where to do a sponsored hospital shift in the local area I know I would be far more inclined to donate.

Good luck to the fella and not for one minute do I question his devotion.

However, I'm always frustrated at these fund raising ideas. What does climbing up Kilimanjaro really achieve? Personally I would like to see fund raisers do something in the local community. For example why don't they do sponsored shifts in a nursing home or a sponsored clean up of a public area?

To me that is far better than wasting fund raised money on flights to Tanzania or shoe leather on walking from Liberty to CCS. May be I'm just a grumpy old git but it still sort of niggles with me.

You are not completely wrong here Tony.

Please here me out before I get slagged off and I do get where chuckles is coming from but these things are popping up all the time now.

There was only the other day a Cardiff Fan on CCMB asking for sponsorship for the exact same thing, ie
Kilimanjaro (different charity) and I also personally know 3 other people currently raising money for a Kilimanjaro climb.

I also work with a girl who is doing a walk of the great wall of china and has to raise £8000 to do it plus a fella who
has to raise £3000 to do next years London Marathon.

I read on a Website the other day that the average cost to do Kilimanjaro is £1350 plus you have to pay your flights on top all
of which comes out of what has been raised so if you raise £6000, £2000 plus goes on the cost of it.

I know its a double edged sword as the charity still gets £4k and I suppose people could say that justifies it in itself and its hard to argue against that but it is just my own opinion that there has got to be better ways of raising money for charity than this and as awful as this sounds for me to say its does feel like your funding someones own experience of a lifetime?

For myself I just stick to sponsoring people I know personally now and have a direct debit coming out split over 4 charity's a month.

There was a guy on the Radio the other day from the Charity's saying the exact same thing, unless your a celebrity and likely to raise some serious cash there has got to be better ways to do it?

Just my opinion sorry, I feel bad writing this but Its how I view it, happy for someone to try and change my mind.

Great post BTW and you have explained yourself brilliantly. However, you seem to have the same thinking as me in that someone else is making an awful lot of money out of the charity industry, money which should really go to charity.

That's what is really behind my opinion. Whilst the amounts raised 'may be' lower if someone did shifts in a hospital rather than walking in the African hills, the sentiment which is 'it's for charity' would come shining through. I really believe that local donations would increase if the fund raising tasks were to the benefit of the community from which you are collecting.

In another way I suppose someone could justifiably call me petty for my view, but its the one I have.

What does climbing up Kilimanjaro really achieve?

It creates more of an interest, which in turn, creates more money raised. Someone is far more likely to sponsor a feat such as Kilimanjaro, rather than someone who's done some shifts in a hospital.

That totally misses the point. Climbing Kilimanjaro has been done a million times. May be the first time it might have been something special but not now.

I still applaud the guy for giving his free time but I still think that fund raising should take place in the local community and be of benefit to the community which is providing the donations. It is just an opinion of mine, but if someone where to do a sponsored hospital shift in the local area I know I would be far more inclined to donate.

No it doesn't, you asked what does climbing up the mountain achieve & I answered you with the Correct point of more public interest.

Good luck to Paul Harris. It's a shame swansealad wouldn't climb Kilimanjaro and fall of the top of it.

Good luck to Paul Harris. It's a shame swansealad wouldn't climb Kilimanjaro and fall of the top of it.

What does climbing up Kilimanjaro really achieve?

It creates more of an interest, which in turn, creates more money raised. Someone is far more likely to sponsor a feat such as Kilimanjaro, rather than someone who's done some shifts in a hospital.

That totally misses the point. Climbing Kilimanjaro has been done a million times. May be the first time it might have been something special but not now.

I still applaud the guy for giving his free time but I still think that fund raising should take place in the local community and be of benefit to the community which is providing the donations. It is just an opinion of mine, but if someone where to do a sponsored hospital shift in the local area I know I would be far more inclined to donate.

No it doesn't, you asked what does climbing up the mountain achieve & I answered you with the Correct point of more public interest.

Exactly I asked what does it achieve climbing Kilimanjaro as it has been done a thousand times Honestly Chuckles mate its time to give up

If the climbers are claiming exspenses then this culture has become sham. However i'm not sure that they would claim expenses. surely not.

Exactly I asked what does it achieve climbing Kilimanjaro as it has been done a thousand times Honestly Chuckles mate its time to give up

I told you what it achieves. More exposure than a bloody hospital volunteer.

If the climbers are claiming exspenses then this culture has become sham. However i'm not sure that they would claim expenses. surely not.

The cost of the trip comes out of the total amount raised mate, as I said, average cost of Kilimanjaro is £1350 then flights on top.

There may well be the odd exception but as I said above most of the time the cost of the trip comes off the sponsorship so unless you raise a big whack its not good, a lot of charity's have it so you have to raise a certain figure, like I said in the example when me and chuckles were chatting, for example, I know a bloke who's doing it who has to raise £6,000, out of that £6000 comes the costs then the rest to the Charity, so it will be £2000 costs £4000 charity.

If the climbers are claiming exspenses then this culture has become sham. However i'm not sure that they would claim expenses. surely not.

The cost of the trip comes out of the total amount raised mate, as I said, average cost of Kilimanjaro is £1350 then flights on top.

There may well be the odd exception but as I said above most of the time the cost of the trip comes off the sponsorship so unless you raise a big whack its not good, a lot of charity's have it so you have to raise a certain figure, like I said in the example when me and chuckles were chatting, for example, I know a bloke who's doing it who has to raise £6,000, out of that £6000 comes the costs then the rest to the Charity, so it will be £2000 costs £4000 charity.

How strange.