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Poyet to take Legal Action

Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:17 pm

It seems like Gus Poyet is taking legal action against Brighton. Pretty interested to find out what was kept quiet for the reasons for the sacking. Anyone heard anything on this?

Link if you haven't seen:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23568921

Re: Poyet to take Legal Action

Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:38 pm

The_Onion_Knight wrote:It seems like Gus Poyet is taking legal action against Brighton. Pretty interested to find out what was kept quiet for the reasons for the sacking. Anyone heard anything on this?

Link if you haven't seen:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23568921


no, but he has a very good case on procedural grounds alone in my opinion. Failure to follow the acas code whilst not statutory can lead to a dismissal being unfair.

In terms of the actual offence for it to be gross misconduct it has to be sufficiently serious to constitute a breach of contract on gus' part. Examples of which are theft, fraud, conduct which brings the club into disrepute etc etc. Other things could be stipulated in his contract. It'll be interesting because I can't imagine him doing anything that serious and one of the tests the court uses is known as the band of reasonable responses test, i.e. would any reasonable employer have dismissed him.

Interesting case for us employment law lovers!

Re: Poyet to take Legal Action

Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:25 pm

db1927 wrote:
The_Onion_Knight wrote:It seems like Gus Poyet is taking legal action against Brighton. Pretty interested to find out what was kept quiet for the reasons for the sacking. Anyone heard anything on this?

Link if you haven't seen:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23568921


no, but he has a very good case on procedural grounds alone in my opinion. Failure to follow the acas code whilst not statutory can lead to a dismissal being unfair.

In terms of the actual offence for it to be gross misconduct it has to be sufficiently serious to constitute a breach of contract on gus' part. Examples of which are theft, fraud, conduct which brings the club into disrepute etc etc. Other things could be stipulated in his contract. It'll be interesting because I can't imagine him doing anything that serious and one of the tests the court uses is known as the band of reasonable responses test, i.e. would any reasonable employer have dismissed him.

Interesting case for us employment law lovers!


Haha! Be interesting to see

Re: Poyet to take Legal Action

Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:04 pm

The_Onion_Knight wrote:
db1927 wrote:
The_Onion_Knight wrote:It seems like Gus Poyet is taking legal action against Brighton. Pretty interested to find out what was kept quiet for the reasons for the sacking. Anyone heard anything on this?

Link if you haven't seen:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23568921


no, but he has a very good case on procedural grounds alone in my opinion. Failure to follow the acas code whilst not statutory can lead to a dismissal being unfair.

In terms of the actual offence for it to be gross misconduct it has to be sufficiently serious to constitute a breach of contract on gus' part. Examples of which are theft, fraud, conduct which brings the club into disrepute etc etc. Other things could be stipulated in his contract. It'll be interesting because I can't imagine him doing anything that serious and one of the tests the court uses is known as the band of reasonable responses test, i.e. would any reasonable employer have dismissed him.

Interesting case for us employment law lovers!


Haha! Be interesting to see


Gus has no other option but to take it to court as his reputation is at stake. He'll lose and his reputation will be tarnished even more.

The club followed the employment law by the letter and the club case against Gus is air tight and make no mistake Gus is playing the victim here.

Re: Poyet to take Legal Action

Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:08 pm

If its got any legs it'll be settled out of court.

Re: Poyet to take Legal Action

Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:16 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:If its got any legs it'll be settled out of court.


That's what Gus is hoping for but Gus has pocket 9's whereas Mr Bloom as pocket A's. Poyet called Blooms bluff by phoning him in march saying he wants out and would walk away tomorrow if he was allowed.

Reading came in and met our £2.5m valuation buy out clause and Bloom said go ahead he's yours, Poyet met Reading but declined Reading as he didn't want relegation on his CV. Poyet on sky sports at the weekend said he never wanted to leave us? Yeah righto Gus you lieing sack of shit.

Poyet called Blooms bluff once in March and lost, he's doing the same again and it'll be the same outcome.

Re: Poyet to take Legal Action

Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:27 pm

Although your boys lost on the weekend they played well and deserved a point at least.

:ayatollah:

Re: Poyet to take Legal Action

Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:24 pm

B&HA, did you attend that recent fans meeting with the chairman?

Re: Poyet to take Legal Action

Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:36 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:B&HA, did you attend that recent fans meeting with the chairman?


Yes Rick.

You could tell Mr Bloom really wanted to spill the beans on what they're holding out on but they knew Poyet would go to court so refrained from telling us the gory details as the club will let it all out in court.

Re: Poyet to take Legal Action

Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:51 pm

I'M SPARTACUS wrote:Although your boys lost on the weekend they played well and deserved a point at least.

:ayatollah:


Yes, but the last minute goals goes on. They cost us automatic promotion last season, dropped 12 points in the 90th minute.

Need 4 signings this month or we're mid table at best.

Re: Poyet to take Legal Action

Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:18 pm

db1927 wrote:
The_Onion_Knight wrote:It seems like Gus Poyet is taking legal action against Brighton. Pretty interested to find out what was kept quiet for the reasons for the sacking. Anyone heard anything on this?

Link if you haven't seen:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23568921


no, but he has a very good case on procedural grounds alone in my opinion. Failure to follow the acas code whilst not statutory can lead to a dismissal being unfair.

In terms of the actual offence for it to be gross misconduct it has to be sufficiently serious to constitute a breach of contract on gus' part. Examples of which are theft, fraud, conduct which brings the club into disrepute etc etc. Other things could be stipulated in his contract. It'll be interesting because I can't imagine him doing anything that serious and one of the tests the court uses is known as the band of reasonable responses test, i.e. would any reasonable employer have dismissed him.

Interesting case for us employment law lovers!


Wait till the court case if Gus has the balls to follow up his threat.

Gus really is out his depth here and he knows it but trying to pull the wool over every ones eyes. Breach of contract?

He told the world what our budget is for next season. That's like me working for o2, managing director and we're in competition with Virgin, Vodafone and competing to buy a rival net work but we all have a budget but no one knows what budget we've all got so playing cat and mouse but big mouth from o2 comes out and says we can only afford this then that lets the other competitors walk in and make the purchase.

The list goes on.

Re: Poyet to take Legal Action

Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:20 pm

Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
db1927 wrote:
The_Onion_Knight wrote:It seems like Gus Poyet is taking legal action against Brighton. Pretty interested to find out what was kept quiet for the reasons for the sacking. Anyone heard anything on this?

Link if you haven't seen:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23568921


no, but he has a very good case on procedural grounds alone in my opinion. Failure to follow the acas code whilst not statutory can lead to a dismissal being unfair.

In terms of the actual offence for it to be gross misconduct it has to be sufficiently serious to constitute a breach of contract on gus' part. Examples of which are theft, fraud, conduct which brings the club into disrepute etc etc. Other things could be stipulated in his contract. It'll be interesting because I can't imagine him doing anything that serious and one of the tests the court uses is known as the band of reasonable responses test, i.e. would any reasonable employer have dismissed him.

Interesting case for us employment law lovers!


Wait till the court case if Gus has the balls to follow up his threat.

Gus really is out his depth here and he knows it but trying to pull the wool over every ones eyes. Breach of contract?

He told the world what our budget is for next season. That's like me working for o2, managing director and we're in competition with Virgin, Vodafone and competing to buy a rival net work but we all have a budget but no one knows what budget we've all got so playing cat and mouse but big mouth from o2 comes out and says we can only afford this then that lets the other competitors walk in and make the purchase.

The list goes on.


Even if that is 100% true is it 'gross misconduct?' After all you can get information like that from public documents held at Companies House. We have often debated budgets of CCFC on here and we all knew it when it was £15m then £20m etc.

Also he could have a case of constructive dismissal in that he was given permission to speak to Reading and then sacked shortly after turning the move down.

TBH at the moment we are only getting the edited highlights from both your Chairman and Poyet himself. I have a sneaky feeling this will be settled out of court.