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PRINCE OF WALES ? SHIT!

Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:05 am

another burden on the tax payer, a millionaire even before his first breath. I mean this baby no harm BUT! one day he will be Prince of Wales , his parents live in Wales, there house is going to cost a cool mil, to bring up to scratch all tax payers money ,
yet they make sure the baby was born in england , WHY NOT IN WALES I WANT TO KNOW ?

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:12 am

Theres me thinking this thread was about the pub in Cardiff

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:14 am

welshcitydragon wrote:another burden on the tax payer, a millionaire even before his first breath. I mean this baby no harm BUT! one day he will be Prince of Wales , his parents live in Wales, there house is going to cost a cool mil, to bring up to scratch all tax payers money ,
yet they make sure the baby was born in england , WHY NOT IN WALES I WANT TO KNOW ?


Fair play that's a completely retarded view.

Burden on Tax Payer? Do you know this Baby is hours old, and the world is scrambling to the UK already. Hours old!!!.

He is the most famous baby on the planet. How much revenue to the British economy through tourism will that generate?

Burden on Taxpayer :laughing5:

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:14 am

Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:17 am

wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).


Yeah but you get our water - the best water in Britain! :D

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:18 am

aj1927 wrote:
welshcitydragon wrote:another burden on the tax payer, a millionaire even before his first breath. I mean this baby no harm BUT! one day he will be Prince of Wales , his parents live in Wales, there house is going to cost a cool mil, to bring up to scratch all tax payers money ,
yet they make sure the baby was born in england , WHY NOT IN WALES I WANT TO KNOW ?


Fair play that's a completely retarded view.

Burden on Tax Payer? Do you know this Baby is hours old, and the world is scrambling to the UK already. Hours old!!!.

He is the most famous baby on the planet. How much revenue to the British economy through tourism will that generate?

Burden on Taxpayer :laughing5:


Bullshit! in his life he will have more spent on him by the tax payer than he could ever give back.

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:19 am

arri potta wrote:
wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).


Yeah but you get our water - the best water in Britain! :D


Thanks - appreciate it. Drank a lot the last few weeks.

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:22 am

welshcitydragon wrote:
aj1927 wrote:
welshcitydragon wrote:another burden on the tax payer, a millionaire even before his first breath. I mean this baby no harm BUT! one day he will be Prince of Wales , his parents live in Wales, there house is going to cost a cool mil, to bring up to scratch all tax payers money ,
yet they make sure the baby was born in england , WHY NOT IN WALES I WANT TO KNOW ?


Fair play that's a completely retarded view.

Burden on Tax Payer? Do you know this Baby is hours old, and the world is scrambling to the UK already. Hours old!!!.

He is the most famous baby on the planet. How much revenue to the British economy through tourism will that generate?

Burden on Taxpayer :laughing5:


Bullshit! in his life he will have more spent on him by the tax payer than he could ever give back.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:25 am

welshcitydragon wrote:another burden on the tax payer, a millionaire even before his first breath. I mean this baby no harm BUT! one day he will be Prince of Wales , his parents live in Wales, there house is going to cost a cool mil, to bring up to scratch all tax payers money ,
yet they make sure the baby was born in england , WHY NOT IN WALES I WANT TO KNOW ?


Why will he be a burden on the taxpayer?
If he is a millionaire as you say he is, then he will contribute to taxes far more than millions of other citizens.
Why would the tax payers pay for his house to be done up?

Wouldn't you want the best facilities for your child's birth?
If so, then why not go private, and not risk the NHS lottery.
By going private they have saved the tax payer money. As they have paid for all treatment, birth and ante natal treatments/care themselves.
He will go to a private school, which they will pay for.
Probably join the army and earn his own money as his father does.
So his birth, child care, schooling etc are all paid for directly by his parents. Incidentally while still paying taxes for the NHS, education etc. So he will be paying for services that we use, but he will not, so freeing up more spaces for others in those systems.

Maybe he should be getting a rebate for his taxes into a system he will not use

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:26 am

welshcitydragon wrote:Bullshit! in his life he will have more spent on him by the tax payer than he could ever give back.


The Queen receives 7,900,000 pounds a year, a rate that has not been changed once since 1991, some 20 years ago.

The fact is, the royal family costs each UK citizen a paltry 66p per year.

The amount of tourism they bring in is immense. So for about £40M per year, the royal family brings in about £176M to the UK treasury. And that does not include the money made by restaurants, hotels, cabs and stores.


I think that is what is called a good investment.


:wave: :wave:

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:32 am

wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).



Wales is well under funded , and remember it was Wales who made Britain great all over the world.
with its steel & coal going all over the world .And it was the Welshmen who were exploited and made to work for a wage they could hardly feed there family on. When they stood up for there right, Chirchil sent to troops in and killed Welsh people. england has only ever gone to other country's & taken what the wanted & would only go after being kicked out.

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:39 am

welshcitydragon wrote:
wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).



Wales is well under funded , and remember it was Wales who made Britain great all over the world.
with its steel & coal going all over the world .And it was the Welshmen who were exploited and made to work for a wage they could hardly feed there family on. When they stood up for there right, Chirchil sent to troops in and killed Welsh people. england has only ever gone to other country's & taken what the wanted & would only go after being kicked out.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: WELSH WILLIAM WALLACE HERE GUYS :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:50 am

Two rich kids having a baby...tourists come to see the palace and rarely will they see a member of the royal family. Not a fan of the royals myself they are an embarrassment and are totally out of touch with real people.

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:54 am

aj1927 wrote:
welshcitydragon wrote:
wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).



Wales is well under funded , and remember it was Wales who made Britain great all over the world.
with its steel & coal going all over the world .And it was the Welshmen who were exploited and made to work for a wage they could hardly feed there family on. When they stood up for there right, Chirchil sent to troops in and killed Welsh people. england has only ever gone to other country's & taken what the wanted & would only go after being kicked out.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: WELSH WILLIAM WALLACE HERE GUYS :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:



Just goes to show how much you know , Look up the name Wallace ! read your history , you will fined Wallace is was , and name meaning Wales ! you must feel a right pratt now Mr englishman

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:58 am

welshcitydragon wrote:
wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).



Wales is well under funded , and remember it was Wales who made Britain great all over the world.
with its steel & coal going all over the world .And it was the Welshmen who were exploited and made to work for a wage they could hardly feed there family on. When they stood up for there right, Chirchil sent to troops in and killed Welsh people. england has only ever gone to other country's & taken what the wanted & would only go after being kicked out.


You should have gone to school mate. Because your history knowledge is f***ing appalling.
Wales is underfunded? You mean propped up by the snobby aristocracy and workers of England surely.
Welshmen were not exploited and made to work, as most of the people in the mines were foreigners, strangely enough Englishmen, also Scots, Irish and Europeans. There were not enough Welsh men to work in the mines, so many were imported here to do so. Check the genealogy of the Rhondda valleys and how many of the families are non-Welsh when you go back 3/4 generations.
Churchill sent troops in at the request of the local police who could not cope with the looting of local shops and attacks on the local police.
Why do people perpetuate the myth of England (with Welsh, Scots, Irish help) looting countries? Have you ever been to India, Kenya, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, USA, they seem to have kept English law as their governing legal system and similar beliefs and ways of running their countries as were left by the British.
Strange that the countries that "kicked us out" seem to have problems - Zimbabwe, Pakistan (?) and many other African dictatorships, where massacres and corruption are commonplace.

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:03 am

welshcitydragon wrote:
wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).



Wales is well under funded , and remember it was Wales who made Britain great all over the world.
with its steel & coal going all over the world .And it was the Welshmen who were exploited and made to work for a wage they could hardly feed there family on. When they stood up for there right, Chirchil sent to troops in and killed Welsh people. england has only ever gone to other country's & taken what the wanted & would only go after being kicked out.



Agreed, but they not only did this t Wales but other parts of Britain as well, the same will happen with Shale gas with Wales & the north exploited

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:15 am

welshcitydragon wrote:
wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).



Wales is well under funded , and remember it was Wales who made Britain great all over the world.
with its steel & coal going all over the world .And it was the Welshmen who were exploited and made to work for a wage they could hardly feed there family on. When they stood up for there right, Chirchil sent to troops in and killed Welsh people. england has only ever gone to other country's & taken what the wanted & would only go after being kicked out.


Yes and the "British Army" that went to other countries and took what they wanted had great numbers of Welsh, Scottish and Irish soldiers in it. Miners and other workers in England and Scotland were also exploited over the years so you may want to readjust your "soap box" to include them.

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:15 am

glas wrote:
welshcitydragon wrote:
wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).



Wales is well under funded , and remember it was Wales who made Britain great all over the world.
with its steel & coal going all over the world .And it was the Welshmen who were exploited and made to work for a wage they could hardly feed there family on. When they stood up for there right, Chirchil sent to troops in and killed Welsh people. england has only ever gone to other country's & taken what the wanted & would only go after being kicked out.


You should have gone to school mate. Because your history knowledge is f***ing appalling.
Wales is underfunded? You mean propped up by the snobby aristocracy and workers of England surely.
Welshmen were not exploited and made to work, as most of the people in the mines were foreigners, strangely enough Englishmen, also Scots, Irish and Europeans. There were not enough Welsh men to work in the mines, so many were imported here to do so. Check the genealogy of the Rhondda valleys and how many of the families are non-Welsh when you go back 3/4 generations.
Churchill sent troops in at the request of the local police who could not cope with the looting of local shops and attacks on the local police.
Why do people perpetuate the myth of England (with Welsh, Scots, Irish help) looting countries? Have you ever been to India, Kenya, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, USA, they seem to have kept English law as their governing legal system and similar beliefs and ways of running their countries as were left by the British.
Strange that the countries that "kicked us out" seem to have problems - Zimbabwe, Pakistan (?) and many other African dictatorships, where massacres and corruption are commonplace.


A fair percentage who migrated t South Wales coalfields were from other parts of Wales

“Nid oes Bradwr yn y ty hwn”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nostalg ... yn-4698535

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:20 am

welshcitydragon wrote:
aj1927 wrote:
welshcitydragon wrote:
wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).



Wales is well under funded , and remember it was Wales who made Britain great all over the world.
with its steel & coal going all over the world .And it was the Welshmen who were exploited and made to work for a wage they could hardly feed there family on. When they stood up for there right, Chirchil sent to troops in and killed Welsh people. england has only ever gone to other country's & taken what the wanted & would only go after being kicked out.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: WELSH WILLIAM WALLACE HERE GUYS :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:



Just goes to show how much you know , Look up the name Wallace ! read your history , you will fined Wallace is was , and name meaning Wales ! you must feel a right pratt now Mr englishman


:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

FINED!!!! "you will fined wallace is was," your grammar is a bad as your opinion mate!!!1

1st im a jack now im an englishman :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

Mate i was born and raised in Cardiff.
truth be told i was one of the last babies to be delivered at the old St Davids.

oh yeah before i forget, only one T in PRAT,But Two in tw*t :wave:

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:26 am

aj1927 wrote:
welshcitydragon wrote:
aj1927 wrote:
welshcitydragon wrote:
wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).



Wales is well under funded , and remember it was Wales who made Britain great all over the world.
with its steel & coal going all over the world .And it was the Welshmen who were exploited and made to work for a wage they could hardly feed there family on. When they stood up for there right, Chirchil sent to troops in and killed Welsh people. england has only ever gone to other country's & taken what the wanted & would only go after being kicked out.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: WELSH WILLIAM WALLACE HERE GUYS :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:



Just goes to show how much you know , Look up the name Wallace ! read your history , you will fined Wallace is was , and name meaning Wales ! you must feel a right pratt now Mr englishman


:laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

FINED!!!! "you will fined wallace is was," your grammar is a bad as your opinion mate!!!1

1st im a jack now im an englishman :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

Mate i was born and raised in Cardiff.
truth be told i was one of the last babies to be delivered at the old St Davids.

oh yeah before i forget, only one T in PRAT,But Two in tw*t :wave:


Fair play that made me giggle :lol:

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:34 am

Beginning to feel sorry for you actually.
You attack something clearly without doing some research first,then after you're proved wrong you start attacking other aspects of the subject again without doing your research.

If you're attempting to suggest Wales has been oppressed by the English more than say the Scot or the Irish then you need your f*cking head examined pal.And under kings rule we as BRITS have committed some heinous acts on people in the past.

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:52 am

ronnieconradsflatcap wrote:
glas wrote:
welshcitydragon wrote:
wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).



Wales is well under funded , and remember it was Wales who made Britain great all over the world.
with its steel & coal going all over the world .And it was the Welshmen who were exploited and made to work for a wage they could hardly feed there family on. When they stood up for there right, Chirchil sent to troops in and killed Welsh people. england has only ever gone to other country's & taken what the wanted & would only go after being kicked out.


You should have gone to school mate. Because your history knowledge is f***ing appalling.
Wales is underfunded? You mean propped up by the snobby aristocracy and workers of England surely.
Welshmen were not exploited and made to work, as most of the people in the mines were foreigners, strangely enough Englishmen, also Scots, Irish and Europeans. There were not enough Welsh men to work in the mines, so many were imported here to do so. Check the genealogy of the Rhondda valleys and how many of the families are non-Welsh when you go back 3/4 generations.
Churchill sent troops in at the request of the local police who could not cope with the looting of local shops and attacks on the local police.
Why do people perpetuate the myth of England (with Welsh, Scots, Irish help) looting countries? Have you ever been to India, Kenya, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, USA, they seem to have kept English law as their governing legal system and similar beliefs and ways of running their countries as were left by the British.
Strange that the countries that "kicked us out" seem to have problems - Zimbabwe, Pakistan (?) and many other African dictatorships, where massacres and corruption are commonplace.


A fair percentage who migrated t South Wales coalfields were from other parts of Wales

“Nid oes Bradwr yn y ty hwn”

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nostalg ... yn-4698535

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



I know that 1,000's were Welsh, but look at the country's population and the amount of people needed in the coal/iron/steel/docks industries. It is obvious that 1,000's came here for work, as many Welsh would have stayed on their farms producing food, plus other ancillary products. Many Italians came here and set up cafe's. It sounds corny but is actually true. They claim they brought ice cream here, and I say God bless them for that.

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:10 pm

I was wondering last night if they make more money for the country than they spend.

Attracting tourism etc.

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:12 pm

Karl wrote:I was wondering last night if they make more money for the country than they spend.

Attracting tourism etc.


They cost Millions to Keep.
But they bring in Billions.....

As a Meerkat would say...."Simples" ;)

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:45 pm

Karl wrote:I was wondering last night if they make more money for the country than they spend.

Attracting tourism etc.


The Crown Estates and the Duchy of Cornwall sit on estimated global assets of roughly £7 trillion! Think what our nation could do if those assets were realised and fairly distributed; goodbye Recession for one!

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:52 pm

I am not a fan of the royal family as it is an outdated concept that belongs in the dark ages. However welshcityretards rant is solely based on anti English hatred.

Tourists come to this country because of the history not because of the royal family today. Do you think they give a shit if the Queen lives in Buckingham palace anymore? They want to hear about King Henry and the 7 wives, how Richard and Harold died in battle. The princes in the tower of London etc.

Today they are an embarrassment, remember Edward was allowed into Cambridge university on C grades only 20 odd years ago, Andrew is a pig of a man and less said about his ex the better.

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:15 pm

Most of the figures spouted out about how much the royal family bring in through tourism etc compared to how "little" they take back through taxes, is full of crap propaganda by pro royalists to try and justify there existence. The simple fact is, we can never know the true cost of keeping the royal family, or how much they actually bring in to this country through tourism.. I mean, how the hell would anyone be able to tell just how many tourists come to this country for the soul purpose of trying to catch a glimpse of the royal family etc? Wouldn't surprise me if legoland windsor made more money for the economy than windsor castle did Lol. Keep the immediate family, like the queen, sons, daughters, grandsons etc by all means, but fuk all the distant cousins and relatives off, those are the ones that are the real parasites and worth fukall.. The hangers on.

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:21 pm

wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).


Is it not enough that we are so subservient to the English that we accept a long line of so-called Princes of Wales who were born in England yet foisted upon us without us having any sort of say in the matter? Not wishing to have a go at you but I believe that your comment epitomises the reason why we have always been owned by the English. As a nation we kow tow and are grateful for their so-called handouts (If that's what we believe where is our pride?) but fail to take into account the vast amounts of raw materials plundered from us over centuries. To my knowledge I can't think of any situations where a dominant country invades and annexes a weaker nation to the benefit of the weaker nation. I really can't believe that England has our interests at heart. The fact that we are bottom of all the league tables that measure our health and wealth seems to back that up. :ayatollah:

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:38 pm

moonboots wrote:
wiltshirebluebird wrote:Yeah - born in England, the south-east to be specific - that part of the UK whose taxes subsidises Wales, (and others).


Is it not enough that we are so subservient to the English that we accept a long line of so-called Princes of Wales who were born in England yet foisted upon us without us having any sort of say in the matter? Not wishing to have a go at you but I believe that your comment epitomises the reason why we have always been owned by the English. As a nation we kow tow and are grateful for their so-called handouts (If that's what we believe where is our pride?) but fail to take into account the vast amounts of raw materials plundered from us over centuries. To my knowledge I can't think of any situations where a dominant country invades and annexes a weaker nation to the benefit of the weaker nation. I really can't believe that England has our interests at heart. The fact that we are bottom of all the league tables that measure our health and wealth seems to back that up. :ayatollah:


The reason we are bottom of the league is due to the councils that run Wales. Who runs them?

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Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:47 pm

Enola Gay wrote:
Karl wrote:I was wondering last night if they make more money for the country than they spend.

Attracting tourism etc.


The Crown Estates and the Duchy of Cornwall sit on estimated global assets of roughly £7 trillion! Think what our nation could do if those assets were realised and fairly distributed; goodbye Recession for one!


Where did you get those numbers?