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Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:29 am

I got this idea for a thread after reading the Ashley Williams thread, whatever you think of the jack b*stard, hes stepped up from the Championship and developed into an established and trusted Premier League Centre back.

Who do you think from our squad could do what Williams has done at Swansea and make that step up a level?

Kimbo is a fairly obvious choice, who else???

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:32 am

Hudson
Marshall
Kim
Taylor
Turner (maybe)

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:40 am

Barry Chuckle wrote:Hudson
Marshall
Kim
Taylor
Turner (maybe)


Gunnerson perhaps? He was class last season after his spell on the bench

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:41 am

Marshall
Hudson
Turner
Taylor
Gunnarsson
Mutch
Kim
Whitts

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:43 am

Gavin wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Hudson
Marshall
Kim
Taylor
Turner (maybe)


Gunnerson perhaps? He was class last season after his spell on the bench


Kim is your banker, the rest may find life tough unless we get more quality/experience in and around them.

The good part is that most have time on their side, they are still young and will improve year-on-year, at least that's what it looks like and you'd think that's also what MM and his aids seek in players.

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:43 am

Whitts
Marshall
Hudson
Kim
Maynard

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:46 am

Gavin wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:Hudson
Marshall
Kim
Taylor
Turner (maybe)


Gunnerson perhaps? He was class last season after his spell on the bench


Yes, forgot Gunnarsson. A quality player, especially after given a boot up his arse. :lol:

I thought he was pretty solid at RB too.

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:47 am

My assessment and how sure (percentage wise) I am of their ability to step up to the plate

Marshall 100%
Taylor 70%
Connelly 70%
Turner 75%
Hudson 70%
Gunnarsson 85%
Mutch 90%
Kim Bo 100%
Whitts 70%
Noone 75%
Conway 40%
Bellamy 100%
Campbell 90%
Maynard 85%
Gestede 40%
Cowie 50%
Mason 60%
Cornelius 90% (obviously only going on professional opinions on the lad)
Oliviera 90% (ditto)

I'd say everyone over 70% will prove good enough. Thats NINE already. If only two of the rest prove
themselves, thats 11 players and we still have at least three to come in (in my opinion) I do believe
the next few signings are the crucial ones though. Up front I think we have a serious strike force.
But we may be weak out wide, we need a defensive midfielder, we need a couple of defenders. If
these are quality signings we will do well
Last edited by GEnder on Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:48 am, edited 1 time in total.

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:48 am

who knows
i think our younger players may improve just by playing prem football,
some of the older ones might struggle more,

some of the names mentioned have potential

and if you take a look at swansea its been the younger players who have come on well in the prem

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:05 pm

Issue is how much will Gunnarsson get away with in the Prem, makes so many great challenges on times but gives away fouls according to the Ref.

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:36 pm

Wonder if Noone can up his game, consistency is key

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:50 pm

Ones I think defenetly will. Not including Bellamy as he's been there for years

Marshall
Hudson
Kimbo
Gunnerson

Others that have a good chance

Kev
Connelly
Turner
Taylor
Whitts
Noone
Conway
Cambell
Mason
Maynard
Mutch
Cornelius


People who have a slim chance
Gestede
Nugent
A few of the development squad e.g. John, Coulsen Wharton

Those that simply are not good enough for the prem
Velikonja
Kiss
Smith
Harris
Oshijali( however you spell it)
Lewis ( fine as 2nd choice but not good enough as 1st choice)

Theats My opinion

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:11 pm

Gavin wrote:I got this idea for a thread after reading the Ashley Williams thread, whatever you think of the jack b*stard, hes stepped up from the Championship and developed into an established and trusted Premier League Centre back.

Who do you think from our squad could do what Williams has done at Swansea and make that step up a level?

Kimbo is a fairly obvious choice, who else???

Marshall
McNaughton
Hudson (maybe)
Turner
Gunnarsson
Whittingham
Kim
Bellamy
Noone (as an impact sub)

Unsure about Maynard and Campbell to be honest.

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:57 pm

GEnder wrote:My assessment and how sure (percentage wise) I am of their ability to step up to the plate

Marshall 100%
Taylor 70%
Connelly 70%
Turner 75%
Hudson 70%
Gunnarsson 85%
Mutch 90%
Kim Bo 100%
Whitts 70%
Noone 75%
Conway 40%
Bellamy 100%
Campbell 90%
Maynard 85%
Gestede 40%
Cowie 50%
Mason 60%
Cornelius 90% (obviously only going on professional opinions on the lad)
Oliviera 90% (ditto)

I'd say everyone over 70% will prove good enough. Thats NINE already. If only two of the rest prove
themselves, thats 11 players and we still have at least three to come in (in my opinion) I do believe
the next few signings are the crucial ones though. Up front I think we have a serious strike force.
But we may be weak out wide, we need a defensive midfielder, we need a couple of defenders. If
these are quality signings we will do well


I think this appraisal is just about spot on.
Couldn't have judged it better myself and your 70% rule is about spot on too.
Good well thought out post i'd say.
:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:11 pm

Think all of our current defence will struggle, especially Taylor he's awful. Gunnarsson can't make the simplest of passes ,the rest of the regulars from last season could go either way, Mutch is the most likely to step up along with Kimbo imo.

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:46 pm

Woody CCFC wrote:Think all of our current defence will struggle, especially Taylor he's awful. Gunnarsson can't make the simplest of passes ,the rest of the regulars from last season could go either way, Mutch is the most likely to step up along with Kimbo imo.


Hudson and Taylor will be fine IMO.

Taylor's play suits the Prem better than the Championship IMO. how you can say he is Awful is beyond me, he started in most games last season and we won the division.

Gunnarson will also make the step up.
Kimbo will make it.

As will Whittingham (Perhaps)
Campbell, Marshall, Noone and of Course Bellamy :ayatollah:

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:30 pm

adamt958 wrote:
Woody CCFC wrote:Think all of our current defence will struggle, especially Taylor he's awful. Gunnarsson can't make the simplest of passes ,the rest of the regulars from last season could go either way, Mutch is the most likely to step up along with Kimbo imo.


Hudson and Taylor will be fine IMO.

Taylor's play suits the Prem better than the Championship IMO. how you can say he is Awful is beyond me, he started in most games last season and we won the division.

Gunnarson will also make the step up.
Kimbo will make it.

As will Whittingham (Perhaps)
Campbell, Marshall, Noone and of Course Bellamy :ayatollah:


His sending off at Hull sums him up, diabolical defending.

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:24 pm

Woody CCFC wrote:
adamt958 wrote:
Woody CCFC wrote:Think all of our current defence will struggle, especially Taylor he's awful. Gunnarsson can't make the simplest of passes ,the rest of the regulars from last season could go either way, Mutch is the most likely to step up along with Kimbo imo.


Hudson and Taylor will be fine IMO.

Taylor's play suits the Prem better than the Championship IMO. how you can say he is Awful is beyond me, he started in most games last season and we won the division.

Gunnarson will also make the step up.
Kimbo will make it.

As will Whittingham (Perhaps)
Campbell, Marshall, Noone and of Course Bellamy :ayatollah:


His sending off at Hull sums him up, diabolical defending.


Thought the whole team was quite poor for the last 2-3 games. They was more focused on just doing the parade and going away in fairness.

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:00 am

Gavin wrote:I got this idea for a thread after reading the Ashley Williams thread, whatever you think of the jack b*stard, hes stepped up from the Championship and developed into an established and trusted Premier League Centre back.

Who do you think from our squad could do what Williams has done at Swansea and make that step up a level?

Kimbo is a fairly obvious choice, who else???


Well as we've only signed 1 new player we need all of our other current squad to step up or we are fcked !!!

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:11 am

Whitts with a strong DM behind him will flourish. His dead ball delivery is already top class and with more time on the ball hisctechnical ability will shine.

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:03 am

Lets be brutally honest most of our Championship winning squad will be asked some searching questions in the PL. Only time will tell but I honestly think we're going to struggle unless 5 or 6 QUALITY players are brought in to raise our game.

Yes, Kimbo, Bellamy, Marshall and Turner - for me - would mix it with the best. The others, I'm sorry to say, will be found wanting.

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:18 am

Jes wrote:
GEnder wrote:My assessment and how sure (percentage wise) I am of their ability to step up to the plate

Marshall 100%
Taylor 70%
Connelly 70%
Turner 75%
Hudson 70%
Gunnarsson 85%
Mutch 90%
Kim Bo 100%
Whitts 70%
Noone 75%
Conway 40%
Bellamy 100%
Campbell 90%
Maynard 85%
Gestede 40%
Cowie 50%
Mason 60%
Cornelius 90% (obviously only going on professional opinions on the lad)
Oliviera 90% (ditto)

I'd say everyone over 70% will prove good enough. Thats NINE already. If only two of the rest prove
themselves, thats 11 players and we still have at least three to come in (in my opinion) I do believe
the next few signings are the crucial ones though. Up front I think we have a serious strike force.
But we may be weak out wide, we need a defensive midfielder, we need a couple of defenders. If
these are quality signings we will do well


I think this appraisal is just about spot on.
Couldn't have judged it better myself and your 70% rule is about spot on too.
Good well thought out post i'd say.
:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


Why thank you :D

Id have given Mason 70%-75% but took into account that he might be getting loaned out anyway

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:22 am

Mario Polotelli wrote:Whitts with a strong DM behind him will flourish. His dead ball delivery is already top class and with more time on the ball hisctechnical ability will shine.


I think Whitts deliberately drops back 30 yards to give himself more time on the ball. This is
where I think Kimbo will shine. He is happy playing football with players snapping around his
ankles, more composed under pressure than Whitts

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:29 am

GEnder wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:Whitts with a strong DM behind him will flourish. His dead ball delivery is already top class and with more time on the ball hisctechnical ability will shine.


I think Whitts deliberately drops back 30 yards to give himself more time on the ball. This is
where I think Kimbo will shine. He is happy playing football with players snapping around his
ankles, more composed under pressure than Whitts

Utter nonsense.

He drops back 30 yards under instruction from Malky. Clear from his body language he would rather be further forward smashing the goals in as he did under Jones.

As for the Whitts isnt composed under pressure. Laughable. I will treat that statement with the contempt it deserves.

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:59 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
GEnder wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:Whitts with a strong DM behind him will flourish. His dead ball delivery is already top class and with more time on the ball hisctechnical ability will shine.


I think Whitts deliberately drops back 30 yards to give himself more time on the ball. This is
where I think Kimbo will shine. He is happy playing football with players snapping around his
ankles, more composed under pressure than Whitts

Utter nonsense.

He drops back 30 yards under instruction from Malky. Clear from his body language he would rather be further forward smashing the goals in as he did under Jones.

As for the Whitts isnt composed under pressure. Laughable. I will treat that statement with the contempt it deserves.


The only one with sense of Peter Whitts on here.

Half these fools who were knocking him were the same ones crying for him to be attacking against Wolves because he was so defensive, tools.

Re: Who can make the step up a division successfully?

Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:08 pm

The players I believe that would make the step up comfortably


Kim
Marshall
Mutch


Others who I think would be ok

Campbell
Maynard
Hudson
Whitts
Gunnarsson
Possibly noone and Taylor

Players I think may struggle


Turner
Kev
Conway
Cowie
Lappin
Rudy
Smith