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Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:32 pm

I understand people being upset that we've missed one of our transfer targets, but at times like this imo it's best to put personal opinion to one side, cool down and take a cold hard look at some facts...

1. Tom ince has never played top flight football.


2. Tom ince last appearances came in an under21 tournament in witch he was taken off at half time against Israel.


3. No other football club in britain (or the world) bar us matched blackpools 8mil valuation of their player.


4. Liverpool, the club that should know everything about ince could of had him back for 35% less than Blackpools asking price, due to a 35% sell on clause. They have not taken up the offer.


5. The reported wages of 35 grand per week that we were offering ince is exactly the same as leighton baines earned last season for everton.


6. Sir Alex fergurson once called tom inces old man paul "a big time charlie"



f**k him.

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:38 pm

jama wrote:I understand people being upset that we've missed one of our transfer targets, but at times like this imo it's best to put personal opinion to one side, cool down and take a cold hard look at some facts...

1. Tom ince has never played top flight football.


2. Tom ince last appearances came in an under21 tournament in witch he was taken off at half time against Israel.


3. No other football club in britain (or the world) bar us matched blackpools 8mil valuation of their player.


4. Liverpool, the club that should know everything about ince could of had him back for 35% less than Blackpools asking price, due to a 35% sell on clause. They have not taken up the offer.


5. The reported wages of 35 grand per week that we were offering ince is exactly the same as leighton baines earned last season for everton.


6. Sir Alex fergurson once called tom inces old man paul "a big time charlie"



f**k him.


And he is a wimp

Great post :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:40 pm

I would have loved him here and that's a fact but even when having the baby this week, he fucked us around too long, Malky's conduct has been second to none in all this and I'm confident we will get a player at a cheaper price who will have as much of an impact as he would have.

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:41 pm

I missed out number 7. The most important one...


7. If tom ince stays at blackpool, tom ince will be playing championship football next season, we won't.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:44 pm

jama wrote:I understand people being upset that we've missed one of our transfer targets, but at times like this imo it's best to put personal opinion to one side, cool down and take a cold hard look at some facts...

1. Tom ince has never played top flight football.


2. Tom ince last appearances came in an under21 tournament in witch he was taken off at half time against Israel.


3. No other football club in britain (or the world) bar us matched blackpools 8mil valuation of their player.


4. Liverpool, the club that should know everything about ince could of had him back for 35% less than Blackpools asking price, due to a 35% sell on clause. They have not taken up the offer.


5. The reported wages of 35 grand per week that we were offering ince is exactly the same as leighton baines earned last season for everton.


6. Sir Alex fergurson once called tom inces old man paul "a big time charlie"



f**k him.


Totally agree he has done sweet FA and is living off his old man's name. He played in the England under 21 side that were absolutely dire. I'm sure the £8 mill could be put to better use.

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:49 pm

jama wrote:I understand people being upset that we've missed one of our transfer targets, but at times like this imo it's best to put personal opinion to one side, cool down and take a cold hard look at some facts...

1. Tom ince has never played top flight football.


2. Tom ince last appearances came in an under21 tournament in witch he was taken off at half time against Israel.


3. No other football club in britain (or the world) bar us matched blackpools 8mil valuation of their player.


4. Liverpool, the club that should know everything about ince could of had him back for 35% less than Blackpools asking price, due to a 35% sell on clause. They have not taken up the offer.


5. The reported wages of 35 grand per week that we were offering ince is exactly the same as leighton baines earned last season for everton.


6. Sir Alex fergurson once called tom inces old man paul "a big time charlie"



f**k him.


f**k me, Tom Ince stock has dropped in the space of 1 hour, never seen a player lose his abilities so fast in my life. Not even the mysterious disapearence of Andre schevchenko's form can match this.

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:54 pm

Top post , one of the best on here for a long time and couldn,t agree more :old:

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:05 pm

Tom was Given his Break by Blackpool, Liverpool didn't want him. So it would be tad bit strange if he has waited for Liverpool to come calling in January.

I've heard that Paul actually made contact with the club to inform them of Toms decision.If that is true then I find it quite Disrespectful to Malky and the Club. But that is just Rumour so I won't put to much into it.
Malky is a Proud man and I feel he went out into the public with this because he genuinely assumed that Tom would be Joining.He may be hurt but he certainly won't dwell on this new knock back.
Malky has reportedly said "Victor and Tom were two plates amongst 10 that I've got spinning" so I wouldn't be suprised if Malkys response to this Knock back is Swift and Suprising.

Us for us the fans and the club, as DJ would say "We can dust ourselves down and Go again".
:malky:

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:17 pm

jama wrote:I understand people being upset that we've missed one of our transfer targets, but at times like this imo it's best to put personal opinion to one side, cool down and take a cold hard look at some facts...

1. Tom ince has never played top flight football.


2. Tom ince last appearances came in an under21 tournament in witch he was taken off at half time against Israel.


3. No other football club in britain (or the world) bar us matched blackpools 8mil valuation of their player.


4. Liverpool, the club that should know everything about ince could of had him back for 35% less than Blackpools asking price, due to a 35% sell on clause. They have not taken up the offer.


5. The reported wages of 35 grand per week that we were offering ince is exactly the same as leighton baines earned last season for everton.


6. Sir Alex fergurson once called tom inces old man paul "a big time charlie"



f**k him.


To me, the overriding most important factor in all this is that he did not pick up the phone himself to
speak to our manager this morning. To me that is cowardly and the actions of a spoilt child, not of a
man who has just become a father. This was a huge decision for him, the biggest professional one in his
life to date and he blew it. Not by his decision, that is incidental to the way he dealt with Malky Mackay.
Forget that Malky is OUR manager, but he IS a manager and a respected figure in the game and as such
deserved to be treated as such. Young Ince's behaviour has convinced me that we have swerved more
trouble than he's worth. I can almost imagine him in tears to his Dad "They've left me out Dad, what am
I gonna doooooooo" - I can also imagine Paul Ince on the phone to Malky playing up about it - I can also
imagine Malky "Git yer eeerse doown here ya weee chopsy c**t and I'll kick yer heed in, so i will"

This lad is no loss to Cardiff City FC

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:19 pm

aj1927 wrote:Tom was Given his Break by Blackpool, Liverpool didn't want him. So it would be tad bit strange if he has waited for Liverpool to come calling in January.

I've heard that Paul actually made contact with the club to inform them of Toms decision.If that is true then I find it quite Disrespectful to Malky and the Club. But that is just Rumour so I won't put to much into it.
Malky is a Proud man and I feel he went out into the public with this because he genuinely assumed that Tom would be Joining.He may be hurt but he certainly won't dwell on this new knock back.
Malky has reportedly said "Victor and Tom were two plates amongst 10 that I've got spinning" so I wouldn't be suprised if Malkys response to this Knock back is Swift and Suprising.

Us for us the fans and the club, as DJ would say "We can dust ourselves down and Go again".
:malky:


its not a rumour. and the Club made sure they put it in the statement that it was PAUL INCE contacted
Malky. Clever really, because everyone in football will be thinking the same thing - what a shithouse!!

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:25 pm

jama wrote:I understand people being upset that we've missed one of our transfer targets, but at times like this imo it's best to put personal opinion to one side, cool down and take a cold hard look at some facts...

1. Tom ince has never played top flight football.


2. Tom ince last appearances came in an under21 tournament in witch he was taken off at half time against Israel.


3. No other football club in britain (or the world) bar us matched blackpools 8mil valuation of their player.


4. Liverpool, the club that should know everything about ince could of had him back for 35% less than Blackpools asking price, due to a 35% sell on clause. They have not taken up the offer.


5. The reported wages of 35 grand per week that we were offering ince is exactly the same as leighton baines earned last season for everton.


6. Sir Alex fergurson once called tom inces old man paul "a big time charlie"



f**k him.



More worrying based on above we were prepared to pay 35k a week and fee of 8.5 million for him.

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:29 pm

Oh lawd, was waiting for the 'we didn't want him anyway' line. I thought you'd be this seasons QPR but at least they successfully bought their overpriced rubbish! :lol:

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:31 pm

[quote="aj1927"]Tom was Given his Break by Blackpool, Liverpool didn't want him. So it would be tad bit strange if he has waited for Liverpool to come calling in January.I've heard that Paul actually made contact with the club to inform them of Toms decision.If that is true then I find it quite Disrespectful to Malky and the Club.
But that is just Rumour so I won't put to much into it.
Not a rumour it's on the official site

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:50 pm

Fred the giraffe wrote:Oh lawd, was waiting for the 'we didn't want him anyway' line. I thought you'd be this seasons QPR but at least they successfully bought their overpriced rubbish! :lol:

QPR were in their second season when they bought their 'marquees' I guess you could pass Cisse as a marquee for them but that was it. You are such a f*cking moron it's unreal.

Re: Ince, time to look at the FACTS?

Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:00 pm

Fred the giraffe wrote:Oh lawd, was waiting for the 'we didn't want him anyway' line. I thought you'd be this seasons QPR but at least they successfully bought their overpriced rubbish! :lol:


Listen BellEnd - we DID want him. We rated him highly, but his actions and those of his fathers over the
last 24 hours have convinced us we have swerved a time-bomb. His Dad obviously rates his son TOO highly,
and his Son listens too much to his Dad. When the lad got his Dad to ring Malky for him I knew he was not
the kind of player we need down the City.

Now go finger your kids arses you jack b*stard