Ince V Sinclair

With all this debate on wether Sinclair is better than Ince lets have a look at the stats. Going on Swansea promotion season:-
Sinclair's record was 21 Goals, 6 of them penalties

Goin on Ince's possible last champ season his record was 18 goals, 2 of them penalties

For those who are poor on maths that means ince scored 1 more goal than sinclair excluding pens

Not sure on assists but i doubt sinclair had more than 14! These stats are also excluding the swansea playoffs. It should also be noted that sinclair was playing in a top 3 team while ince played in a struggling blackpool team.

I think this should clear up that ince is a better player than sinclair and should take the prem by storm

You're obsessed with the Jacks.

You're obsessed with the Jacks.

Just cant stand the kents lol

With all this debate on wether Sinclair is better than Ince lets have a look at the stats. Going on Swansea promotion season:-
Sinclair's record was 21 Goals, 6 of them penalties

Goin on Ince's possible last champ season his record was 18 goals, 2 of them penalties

For those who are poor on maths that means ince scored 1 more goal than sinclair excluding pens

Not sure on assists but i doubt sinclair had more than 14! These stats are also excluding the swansea playoffs. It should also be noted that sinclair was playing in a top 3 team while ince played in a struggling blackpool team.

I think this should clear up that ince is a better player than sinclair and should take the prem by storm

Personally, I would rather take Sinclair back, Ince looks a good player but £8 million is a big punt. Sinclair has already played in the Premier League, knows our club well, knows a lot of the players here and has already proved himself. Ince might well be superb, but it's the word might, that would bother me.

P.S. 22 goals including the play offs

With all this debate on wether Sinclair is better than Ince lets have a look at the stats. Going on Swansea promotion season:-
Sinclair's record was 21 Goals, 6 of them penalties

Goin on Ince's possible last champ season his record was 18 goals, 2 of them penalties

For those who are poor on maths that means ince scored 1 more goal than sinclair excluding pens

Not sure on assists but i doubt sinclair had more than 14! These stats are also excluding the swansea playoffs. It should also be noted that sinclair was playing in a top 3 team while ince played in a struggling blackpool team.

I think this should clear up that ince is a better player than sinclair and should take the prem by storm

Personally, I would rather take Sinclair back, Ince looks a good player but £8 million is a big punt. Sinclair has already played in the Premier League, knows our club well, knows a lot of the players here and has already proved himself. Ince might well be superb, but it's the word might, that would bother me.

P.S. 22 goals including the play offs

If you read my post again i said excluding playoffs, how can you count extra games that ince did not play.

With all this debate on wether Sinclair is better than Ince lets have a look at the stats. Going on Swansea promotion season:-
Sinclair's record was 21 Goals, 6 of them penalties

Goin on Ince's possible last champ season his record was 18 goals, 2 of them penalties

For those who are poor on maths that means ince scored 1 more goal than sinclair excluding pens

Not sure on assists but i doubt sinclair had more than 14! These stats are also excluding the swansea playoffs. It should also be noted that sinclair was playing in a top 3 team while ince played in a struggling blackpool team.

I think this should clear up that ince is a better player than sinclair and should take the prem by storm

Personally, I would rather take Sinclair back, Ince looks a good player but £8 million is a big punt. Sinclair has already played in the Premier League, knows our club well, knows a lot of the players here and has already proved himself. Ince might well be superb, but it's the word might, that would bother me.

P.S. 22 goals including the play offs

I think it is a lot of money for ince tbh but something about sinclair made me think he always had a pretty low ceiling to his game (I still do despite Man City deciding to buy him), I guess an analogy would be calling someone a flat track bully in cricket.

Maybe Ince will turn out to be the same but I don't see us losing much on him (English goalscorer etc) even if he doesn't do much so I think he is worth the punt for us.

With all this debate on wether Sinclair is better than Ince lets have a look at the stats. Going on Swansea promotion season:-
Sinclair's record was 21 Goals, 6 of them penalties

Goin on Ince's possible last champ season his record was 18 goals, 2 of them penalties

For those who are poor on maths that means ince scored 1 more goal than sinclair excluding pens

Not sure on assists but i doubt sinclair had more than 14! These stats are also excluding the swansea playoffs. It should also be noted that sinclair was playing in a top 3 team while ince played in a struggling blackpool team.

I think this should clear up that ince is a better player than sinclair and should take the prem by storm

Personally, I would rather take Sinclair back, Ince looks a good player but £8 million is a big punt. Sinclair has already played in the Premier League, knows our club well, knows a lot of the players here and has already proved himself. Ince might well be superb, but it's the word might, that would bother me.

P.S. 22 goals including the play offs

I think it is a lot of money for ince tbh but something about sinclair made me think he always had a pretty low ceiling to his game (I still do despite Man City deciding to buy him), I guess an analogy would be calling someone a flat track bully in cricket.

Maybe Ince will turn out to be the same but I don't see us losing much on him (English goalscorer etc) even if he doesn't do much so I think he is worth the punt for us.

I think Man City signing him was more down to them needing to have English players in the squad than anything else, same with them signing Richard Wright.

With all this debate on wether Sinclair is better than Ince lets have a look at the stats. Going on Swansea promotion season:-
Sinclair's record was 21 Goals, 6 of them penalties

Goin on Ince's possible last champ season his record was 18 goals, 2 of them penalties

For those who are poor on maths that means ince scored 1 more goal than sinclair excluding pens

Not sure on assists but i doubt sinclair had more than 14! These stats are also excluding the swansea playoffs. It should also be noted that sinclair was playing in a top 3 team while ince played in a struggling blackpool team.

I think this should clear up that ince is a better player than sinclair and should take the prem by storm

Personally, I would rather take Sinclair back, Ince looks a good player but £8 million is a big punt. Sinclair has already played in the Premier League, knows our club well, knows a lot of the players here and has already proved himself. Ince might well be superb, but it's the word might, that would bother me.

P.S. 22 goals including the play offs

If you read my post again i said excluding playoffs, how can you count extra games that ince did not play.

So it's 19 then? If we are taking the play off matches away and only counting league games? Otherwise, all in all he scored 27 goals in total, for an outlay of £1 million which included the add ons to Chelsea, that's a hell of a return, compared to £8 million for Ince.

No have you not read the post. I said on Swansea's promotion season he scored 21 goals 6 of them pens, so thats 15 goals, excluding the playoffs. Ince scored 18 take away 2 pens so thats 16. If you cant see ince is a better all round player than sinclair then you need your head tested. And i agree you had a bargain with sinclair but the quality of ince is better. Look at snodgrass for example, he scored 6 championship goals but was one of norwichs best players last season, next you be saying snodgrass is better than ince ha

No have you not read the post. I said on Swansea's promotion season he scored 21 goals 6 of them pens, so thats 15 goals, excluding the playoffs. Ince scored 18 take away 2 pens so thats 16. If you cant see ince is a better all round player than sinclair then you need your head tested. And i agree you had a bargain with sinclair but the quality of ince is better. Look at snodgrass for example, he scored 6 championship goals but was one of norwichs best players last season, next you be saying snodgrass is better than ince ha

It's all about opinions.. Just because you think something, doesn't mean everyone else has to.

No have you not read the post. I said on Swansea's promotion season he scored 21 goals 6 of them pens, so thats 15 goals, excluding the playoffs. Ince scored 18 take away 2 pens so thats 16. If you cant see ince is a better all round player than sinclair then you need your head tested. And i agree you had a bargain with sinclair but the quality of ince is better. Look at snodgrass for example, he scored 6 championship goals but was one of norwichs best players last season, next you be saying snodgrass is better than ince ha

It's all about opinions.. Just because you think something, doesn't mean everyone else has to.

Didnt say they did im just offering stats, and the stats say ince is a better player

Yes you did. I quote "you need your head testing" if he doesn't agree with you.

Stats? Your twisting the stats to suit you, by removing certain games etc.

Yes you did. I quote "you need your head testing" if he doesn't agree with you.

Stats? Your twisting the stats to suit you, by removing certain games etc.

How can you compare their records when including the playoffs which ince did not even play in lol wake up son

I am awake.. you're also excluding penalties & totally ignore assists. Twisting the stats for your agenda & to suit your arguement.

In my mind, Ince is a better player, but what has any of this got to do with Sinclair?

I am awake.. you're also excluding penalties & totally ignore assists. Twisting the stats for your agenda & to suit your arguement.

In my mind, Ince is a better player, but what has any of this got to do with Sinclair?

Thats the whole point of this post comparing the two players as many people have been. Am i not aloud to do that then? And excluding penalties is a better analysis of a player as any fuca can score a pen

With all this debate on wether Sinclair is better than Ince lets have a look at the stats. Going on Swansea promotion season:-
Sinclair's record was 21 Goals, 6 of them penalties

Goin on Ince's possible last champ season his record was 18 goals, 2 of them penalties

For those who are poor on maths that means ince scored 1 more goal than sinclair excluding pens

Not sure on assists but i doubt sinclair had more than 14! These stats are also excluding the swansea playoffs. It should also be noted that sinclair was playing in a top 3 team while ince played in a struggling blackpool team.

I think this should clear up that ince is a better player than sinclair and should take the prem by storm

Were they the same age????

who the f**k cares about a former jack b*stard?

the only valid comparison here is between Ince and Zaha... and I think Ince is a better deal

Thats a good point as well mate, ince was 19 when he achieved all this and sinclair was about 21. This just goes to show ince's potential to become a great player is huge and sinclair has fucall on him

who the f**k cares about a former jack b*stard?

the only valid comparison here is between Ince and Zaha... and I think Ince is a better deal

Thers no doubting ince is better than zaha. I am only comparing them because the jacks keep banging on that sinclair is better which is just ludicrous

who the f**k cares about a former jack b*stard?

the only valid comparison here is between Ince and Zaha... and I think Ince is a better deal

Thers no doubting ince is better than zaha. I am only comparing them because the jacks keep banging on that sinclair is better which is just ludicrous

Thats MY point. The pricks are harping on about us paying too much for Ince. United paid a lot more for Zaha who
McNaughton bullied out of the game at the CCS. Zaha will flop

I honestly think Ince would of got more than 18 goals and assists if he was played with better players and on a better pitch. Sinclair is on 60k a week at Man City! I know who I'd rather have! Sinclair chose money over first team football and Ince left Liverpool in the first place to play first team football. He's much younger than Sinclair and an England U21 player, Let's not forget his dad was also a class player I know it has nothing to do with him but he has a footballing background.

as any fuca can score a pen

I could point out many City players that prove otherwise.

as any fuca can score a pen

I could point out many City players that prove otherwise.

Youv lost the debate mate giv it up

I really haven't. All I've said is that you're obsessed by comparing him with a player, just because he was a jack.

I also say you are twisting stats, just to make you look correct.. When ScotsJack could do the very same thing.

I also told you that "any fucker can score a pen) is absolute garbage. As Anthony Gerrard painfully proved for us.

How can I lose a debate & you win it when we both have the same viewpoint.... You absolute whopper.

Your talking in riddles and making up shit now, classic you are a beauty

Ive never understood the ''a penalty isn't a real goal'' viewpoint. is a free kick a goal? surely a tap in open goal is easier than a penalty from 12 yards against a keeper? do they not count too?

Your talking in riddles and making up shit now, classic you are a beauty

Not riddles, just basic English language. I'm sure a man educated to degree standard like you claim to be, should have no problems reading it.

"Any fuca (note spelling) can score a penalty" - now I'm afraid that you are the only one scoring bollocks here... Or didnt you see Anthony Gerrard's penalty miss at Wembley?

I think you have taken my statement 'any fuca can score a pen' to seriously, o dear

BEAUTY

Your talking in riddles and making up shit now, classic you are a beauty

Not riddles, just basic English language. I'm sure a man educated to degree standard like you claim to be, should have no problems reading it.

"Any fuca (note spelling) can score a penalty" - now I'm afraid that you are the only one scoring bollocks here... Or didnt you see Anthony Gerrard's penalty miss at Wembley?

S'hhhhh we don't talk about that miss

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I think you have taken my statement 'any fuca an score a pen' to seriously, o dear

BEAUTY

No, you've just been proven to talk absolute nonsense.. AGAIN.

Care to tell me how a penalty isn't a real goal?

I bet when McCormack scored all those pens a few years ago, you were praising what a great goal scorer he was too..