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The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:18 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEI0TKkX ... EI0TKkX9_o

Totally in the right here the EDL for what its worth. Met Police should hang their head in shame. :roll:

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:28 am

Sickening using a sick girl as an excuse to walk through an area they have been asked not to by the police and also they were asked not to for several weeks.

Whats also wrong is the fact the person who assaulted them was not arrested on the spot.

I would also expect the same treatment of any race/religion that didn't adhere to police instruction.

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:39 am

CraigCCFC wrote:Sickening using a sick girl as an excuse to walk through an area they have been asked not to by the police and also they were asked not to for several weeks.

Whats also wrong is the fact the person who assaulted them was not arrested on the spot.

I would also expect the same treatment of any race/religion that didn't adhere to police instruction.


Thats the point though, there is no same treatment. They went on a charity walk and had the route planned and the police could have taken them through the route easily enough but were just being typical political have to go by the list of rules idiots. Sad that common sense has been replaced in the world by robots who need a list of code to function.

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:41 am

Malky Is My God wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Sickening using a sick girl as an excuse to walk through an area they have been asked not to by the police and also they were asked not to for several weeks.

Whats also wrong is the fact the person who assaulted them was not arrested on the spot.

I would also expect the same treatment of any race/religion that didn't adhere to police instruction.


Thats the point though, there is no same treatment. They went on a charity walk and had the route planned and the police could have taken them through the route easily enough but were just being typical political have to go by the list of rules idiots. Sad that common sense has been replaced in the world by robots who need a list of code to function.

The police had told them several weeks ago they couldnt go down that particular route. They were playing to the cameras. The fact they were using a sick little girl as an excuse was disgusting.

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:55 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
Malky Is My God wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Sickening using a sick girl as an excuse to walk through an area they have been asked not to by the police and also they were asked not to for several weeks.

Whats also wrong is the fact the person who assaulted them was not arrested on the spot.

I would also expect the same treatment of any race/religion that didn't adhere to police instruction.


Thats the point though, there is no same treatment. They went on a charity walk and had the route planned and the police could have taken them through the route easily enough but were just being typical political have to go by the list of rules idiots. Sad that common sense has been replaced in the world by robots who need a list of code to function.

The police had told them several weeks ago they couldnt go down that particular route. They were playing to the cameras. The fact they were using a sick little girl as an excuse was disgusting.


Who are the police to infringe on their human rights of freedom? They should be able to walk where they damn well like. Police far too interested in trying to prove a point and be clever than arresting real criminals, like the person who assaulted one of them. Shocking. Against Modern Britain.

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:56 am

No comment on the muslims call to prayer in the grounds of Westminster abbey though eh Craig? The police dont see that as
provocative. Yet The EDL bell-ends (yes they are) arent allowed to walk past a mosque?

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:59 am

bluelikeyou wrote:No comment on the muslims call to prayer in the grounds of Westminster abbey though eh Craig? The police dont see that as
provocative. Yet The EDL bell-ends (yes they are) arent allowed to walk past a mosque?

As I said in my first post. Any race/religion not adhering to police instruction should be dealt the same.

Be honest, why did they need to walk past that particular mosque?

Not sure what this westminster abbey thing is?

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:12 am

CraigCCFC wrote:Sickening using a sick girl as an excuse to walk through an area they have been asked not to by the police and also they were asked not to for several weeks.

Whats also wrong is the fact the person who assaulted them was not arrested on the spot.

I would also expect the same treatment of any race/religion that didn't adhere to police instruction.



We expect to be treated the same as other football fans , but we are not.
The police have different rules for different people/groups.

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:13 am

glas wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Sickening using a sick girl as an excuse to walk through an area they have been asked not to by the police and also they were asked not to for several weeks.

Whats also wrong is the fact the person who assaulted them was not arrested on the spot.

I would also expect the same treatment of any race/religion that didn't adhere to police instruction.



We expect to be treated the same as other football fans , but we are not.
The police have different rules for different people/groups.

yes they do but they shouldn't.

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:21 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
glas wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Sickening using a sick girl as an excuse to walk through an area they have been asked not to by the police and also they were asked not to for several weeks.

Whats also wrong is the fact the person who assaulted them was not arrested on the spot.

I would also expect the same treatment of any race/religion that didn't adhere to police instruction.



We expect to be treated the same as other football fans , but we are not.
The police have different rules for different people/groups.

yes they do but they shouldn't.


I tried telling them (on several occasions) but they would hit me or threaten to arrest me.
That is one of the reasons why I have no respect for them

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:35 am

First I have agreed with MIMG

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:13 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:No comment on the muslims call to prayer in the grounds of Westminster abbey though eh Craig? The police dont see that as
provocative. Yet The EDL bell-ends (yes they are) arent allowed to walk past a mosque?

As I said in my first post. Any race/religion not adhering to police instruction should be dealt the same.

Be honest, why did they need to walk past that particular mosque?

Not sure what this westminster abbey thing is?


Westminster Abbey. A band of Muslim brothers held a call to prayer in the grounds. Could anything be more in your face
deliberate and provocative? Police did nothing. Yet they manage to mobilise to stop two blokes from walking past a mosque.
You dont get it do you. Islam is protected, and they are taking the piss

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:16 am

Since the beheading of a British soldier, all the attention of the authorities/media has focused not on tackling the real threat to this country - but hounding groups such as EDL. The arrests in London, show the world once again that the UK can no longer lecture others on freedom and democracy; and in fact it was shameful and embarrassing to watch in my opinion. There is little doubt that the government is frightened stiff of upsetting the Islamic communities and appeasement is their way of hoping the problem will disappear - it won't! I watched another shameful act with hundreds of Islamists demonstrating and marching down a road in Luton chanting: "British Police go to hell" - and guess what - not one policeman in sight and no arrests!

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:19 am

Since the beheading of a British soldier, all the attention of the authorities/media has focused not on tackling the real threat to this country - but hounding groups such as EDL. The arrests in London, show the world once again that the UK can no longer lecture others on freedom and democracy; and in fact it was shameful and embarrassing to watch in my opinion. There is little doubt that the government is frightened stiff of upsetting the Islamic communities and appeasement is their way of hoping the problem will disappear - it won't! I watched another shameful act with hundreds of Islamists demonstrating and marching down a road in Luton chanting: "British Police go to hell" - and guess what - not one policeman in sight and no arrests!

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:31 am

Politics aside, isn't Tommy Robinson a whining little bitch?

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:37 am

bluelikeyou wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:No comment on the muslims call to prayer in the grounds of Westminster abbey though eh Craig? The police dont see that as
provocative. Yet The EDL bell-ends (yes they are) arent allowed to walk past a mosque?

As I said in my first post. Any race/religion not adhering to police instruction should be dealt the same.

Be honest, why did they need to walk past that particular mosque?

Not sure what this westminster abbey thing is?


Westminster Abbey. A band of Muslim brothers held a call to prayer in the grounds. Could anything be more in your face
deliberate and provocative? Police did nothing. Yet they manage to mobilise to stop two blokes from walking past a mosque.
You dont get it do you. Islam is protected, and they are taking the piss

What has this got to do with the EDL?

You constantly throw at me that because I dislike the EDL im all for muslim extremists and Im not sure why. The two are not mutually exclusive.

I judge each event on its own merit. If you arent allowed on the grass at Westminster then nobody should be allowed on the grass. Its that simple.

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:53 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:No comment on the muslims call to prayer in the grounds of Westminster abbey though eh Craig? The police dont see that as
provocative. Yet The EDL bell-ends (yes they are) arent allowed to walk past a mosque?

As I said in my first post. Any race/religion not adhering to police instruction should be dealt the same.

Be honest, why did they need to walk past that particular mosque?

Not sure what this westminster abbey thing is?


Westminster Abbey. A band of Muslim brothers held a call to prayer in the grounds. Could anything be more in your face
deliberate and provocative? Police did nothing. Yet they manage to mobilise to stop two blokes from walking past a mosque.
You dont get it do you. Islam is protected, and they are taking the piss

What has this got to do with the EDL?

You constantly throw at me that because I dislike the EDL im all for muslim extremists and Im not sure why. The two are not mutually exclusive.

I judge each event on its own merit. If you arent allowed on the grass at Westminster then nobody should be allowed on the grass. Its that simple.


Yeh righto. it was all about just being on the grass then.

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:02 am

bluelikeyou wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:No comment on the muslims call to prayer in the grounds of Westminster abbey though eh Craig? The police dont see that as
provocative. Yet The EDL bell-ends (yes they are) arent allowed to walk past a mosque?

As I said in my first post. Any race/religion not adhering to police instruction should be dealt the same.

Be honest, why did they need to walk past that particular mosque?

Not sure what this westminster abbey thing is?


Westminster Abbey. A band of Muslim brothers held a call to prayer in the grounds. Could anything be more in your face
deliberate and provocative? Police did nothing. Yet they manage to mobilise to stop two blokes from walking past a mosque.
You dont get it do you. Islam is protected, and they are taking the piss

What has this got to do with the EDL?

You constantly throw at me that because I dislike the EDL im all for muslim extremists and Im not sure why. The two are not mutually exclusive.

I judge each event on its own merit. If you arent allowed on the grass at Westminster then nobody should be allowed on the grass. Its that simple.


Yeh righto. it was all about just being on the grass then.

You have the debating skills of a hamster.

The EDL men were told not to go somewhere by the police. They went there and were arrested, as i would hope it would be the same if Muslim extremists were asked not to go somewhere.

I dont know the rules for the grass at westminster but if someone went on it and they arent allowed then the appropriate action should be taken regardless of race/religion.

You keep seperating between religous beliefs/groups but like Ive said all people should be treated the same.

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:18 am

they were asked not to walk past a mosque which would have had a high chance of creating disorder.

the police are charged with the safety of the public thats the safety of the EDL and everybody else

if the EDL will not conform with instructions from the police they are obstructing police operations and may endanger the safety of the public through either their own actions or through the actions of others.

im not really sure why people are shocked by this response from the police, if we go to an away game and end up in an escort if you try and leave that escort you will be arrested

why is it that the EDL were so insistent that they marched passed this mosque?

this isnt a new tactic created to quash the EDL ask the Orange Order in Belfast with there problems of not being allowed to march where they want on the grounds of public safety.

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:25 am

CraigCCFC wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:No comment on the muslims call to prayer in the grounds of Westminster abbey though eh Craig? The police dont see that as
provocative. Yet The EDL bell-ends (yes they are) arent allowed to walk past a mosque?

As I said in my first post. Any race/religion not adhering to police instruction should be dealt the same.

Be honest, why did they need to walk past that particular mosque?

Not sure what this westminster abbey thing is?


Westminster Abbey. A band of Muslim brothers held a call to prayer in the grounds. Could anything be more in your face
deliberate and provocative? Police did nothing. Yet they manage to mobilise to stop two blokes from walking past a mosque.
You dont get it do you. Islam is protected, and they are taking the piss

What has this got to do with the EDL?

You constantly throw at me that because I dislike the EDL im all for muslim extremists and Im not sure why. The two are not mutually exclusive.

I judge each event on its own merit. If you arent allowed on the grass at Westminster then nobody should be allowed on the grass. Its that simple.


Yeh righto. it was all about just being on the grass then.

You have the debating skills of a hamster.

The EDL men were told not to go somewhere by the police. They went there and were arrested, as i would hope it would be the same if Muslim extremists were asked not to go somewhere.

I dont know the rules for the grass at westminster but if someone went on it and they arent allowed then the appropriate action should be taken regardless of race/religion.

You keep seperating between religous beliefs/groups but like Ive said all people should be treated the same.


Forget the laws on "keep off the grass'' - do you not think that these fuckers were being deliberately intentionally provocative?
and if they are allowed to do that, why are the EDL not allowed to walk past a mosque

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:31 am

The EDL weren't arrested for being provocative or inciting racial tensions. They were arrested for obstructing a police officer, which resulted from them trying to go somewhere they were told not to.

If police asked these muslims on Westminster grass to get off it and they didn't then I would expect them to be arrested for the exact same thing.

Can you answer me this?
Why did the EDL have to walk past that particular mosque in that specific place? I can't think of any other reason other than to cause a scene of some sort.

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:14 am

CraigCCFC wrote:The EDL weren't arrested for being provocative or inciting racial tensions. They were arrested for obstructing a police officer, which resulted from them trying to go somewhere they were told not to.

If police asked these muslims on Westminster grass to get off it and they didn't then I would expect them to be arrested for the exact same thing.

Can you answer me this?
Why did the EDL have to walk past that particular mosque in that specific place? I can't think of any other reason other than to cause a scene of some sort.


Of course it was a deliberate act. but the facts are they were stopped. the muslims sticking two fingers up to Britain and democracy are not stopped. you dont see it do you. you are quick to jump on the knobheads of the EDL but are like everyone else and prefer to pretend the Muslims are not worse when they clearly are.

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:18 am

bluelikeyou wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:The EDL weren't arrested for being provocative or inciting racial tensions. They were arrested for obstructing a police officer, which resulted from them trying to go somewhere they were told not to.

If police asked these muslims on Westminster grass to get off it and they didn't then I would expect them to be arrested for the exact same thing.

Can you answer me this?
Why did the EDL have to walk past that particular mosque in that specific place? I can't think of any other reason other than to cause a scene of some sort.


Of course it was a deliberate act. but the facts are they were stopped. the muslims sticking two fingers up to Britain and democracy are not stopped. you dont see it do you. you are quick to jump on the knobheads of the EDL but are like everyone else and prefer to pretend the Muslims are not worse when they clearly are.

Why are you making all these weird assumptions about what I believe.
I didn't see the praying at Westminster story, if I did I would have said they should have been told to get off the grass.

I dont know how many times I can actually say this but I will, once more as you seem to find it hard to fathom.

EVERYBODY SHOULD BE TREATED EXACTLY THE SAME REGARDLESS OF RACE/RELIGION/SEX etc etc

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:14 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:The EDL weren't arrested for being provocative or inciting racial tensions. They were arrested for obstructing a police officer, which resulted from them trying to go somewhere they were told not to.

If police asked these muslims on Westminster grass to get off it and they didn't then I would expect them to be arrested for the exact same thing.

Can you answer me this?
Why did the EDL have to walk past that particular mosque in that specific place? I can't think of any other reason other than to cause a scene of some sort.


Of course it was a deliberate act. but the facts are they were stopped. the muslims sticking two fingers up to Britain and democracy are not stopped. you dont see it do you. you are quick to jump on the knobheads of the EDL but are like everyone else and prefer to pretend the Muslims are not worse when they clearly are.

Why are you making all these weird assumptions about what I believe.
I didn't see the praying at Westminster story, if I did I would have said they should have been told to get off the grass.

I dont know how many times I can actually say this but I will, once more as you seem to find it hard to fathom.

EVERYBODY SHOULD BE TREATED EXACTLY THE SAME REGARDLESS OF RACE/RELIGION/SEX etc etc


But you only feel the need to comment on the EDL's misgivings. your a muslim apologist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbct8TAl9Vs

disgusting. if you done the opposite outside a mosque the police would throw away the key

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:18 pm

bluelikeyou wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:The EDL weren't arrested for being provocative or inciting racial tensions. They were arrested for obstructing a police officer, which resulted from them trying to go somewhere they were told not to.

If police asked these muslims on Westminster grass to get off it and they didn't then I would expect them to be arrested for the exact same thing.

Can you answer me this?
Why did the EDL have to walk past that particular mosque in that specific place? I can't think of any other reason other than to cause a scene of some sort.


Of course it was a deliberate act. but the facts are they were stopped. the muslims sticking two fingers up to Britain and democracy are not stopped. you dont see it do you. you are quick to jump on the knobheads of the EDL but are like everyone else and prefer to pretend the Muslims are not worse when they clearly are.

Why are you making all these weird assumptions about what I believe.
I didn't see the praying at Westminster story, if I did I would have said they should have been told to get off the grass.

I dont know how many times I can actually say this but I will, once more as you seem to find it hard to fathom.

EVERYBODY SHOULD BE TREATED EXACTLY THE SAME REGARDLESS OF RACE/RELIGION/SEX etc etc


But you only feel the need to comment on the EDL's misgivings. your a muslim apologist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbct8TAl9Vs

disgusting. if you done the opposite outside a mosque the police would throw away the key


interesting do you find this equally as disgusting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfvg3WPpkM0

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:21 pm

Why do people think the police do nothing against Muslims? What about the major counter terrorism operation in Birmingham?

I'd put money on it that a lot of Muslims in this country are being closely watched in this country.

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:24 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:Why do people think the police do nothing against Muslims? What about the major counter terrorism operation in Birmingham?

I'd put money on it that a lot of Muslims in this country are being closely watched in this country.


because its not done in the view of the public so for some people it doesnt exist

if Tommy Robinson is stupid/clever enough (depending on how you look at these stunts) to get arrested in public it offers a prejudice that he is being specifically targeted, unfortunately the counter terrorism police mi5 and mi6 dont post their investigations on facebook and youtube

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:25 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:The EDL weren't arrested for being provocative or inciting racial tensions. They were arrested for obstructing a police officer, which resulted from them trying to go somewhere they were told not to.

If police asked these muslims on Westminster grass to get off it and they didn't then I would expect them to be arrested for the exact same thing.

Can you answer me this?
Why did the EDL have to walk past that particular mosque in that specific place? I can't think of any other reason other than to cause a scene of some sort.


Of course it was a deliberate act. but the facts are they were stopped. the muslims sticking two fingers up to Britain and democracy are not stopped. you dont see it do you. you are quick to jump on the knobheads of the EDL but are like everyone else and prefer to pretend the Muslims are not worse when they clearly are.

Why are you making all these weird assumptions about what I believe.
I didn't see the praying at Westminster story, if I did I would have said they should have been told to get off the grass.

I dont know how many times I can actually say this but I will, once more as you seem to find it hard to fathom.

EVERYBODY SHOULD BE TREATED EXACTLY THE SAME REGARDLESS OF RACE/RELIGION/SEX etc etc


But you only feel the need to comment on the EDL's misgivings. your a muslim apologist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbct8TAl9Vs

disgusting. if you done the opposite outside a mosque the police would throw away the key


interesting do you find this equally as disgusting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfvg3WPpkM0


Sorry? are you using church bells in a Christian Country to make some kind of point here? I would not find a big mosque and a wailing call to prayer disgusting in Pakistan either. So i assume them doing the call to prayer right outside Westminster Abbey wasnt a deliberate provocative act then?

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:26 pm

JONNY012697 wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:Why do people think the police do nothing against Muslims? What about the major counter terrorism operation in Birmingham?

I'd put money on it that a lot of Muslims in this country are being closely watched in this country.


because its not done in the view of the public so for some people it doesnt exist

if Tommy Robinson is stupid/clever enough (depending on how you look at these stunts) to get arrested in public it offers a prejudice that he is being specifically targeted, unfortunately the counter terrorism police mi5 and mi6 dont post their investigations on facebook and youtube


What people DO see is one kind of ''extremist'' ie Tommy Robinson, shackled, gagged, arrested, curtailed by the establishment and another type ie choudary allowed to do whatever the f**k he likes

Re: The EDL and the Met

Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:30 pm

bluelikeyou wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:Why do people think the police do nothing against Muslims? What about the major counter terrorism operation in Birmingham?

I'd put money on it that a lot of Muslims in this country are being closely watched in this country.


because its not done in the view of the public so for some people it doesnt exist

if Tommy Robinson is stupid/clever enough (depending on how you look at these stunts) to get arrested in public it offers a prejudice that he is being specifically targeted, unfortunately the counter terrorism police mi5 and mi6 dont post their investigations on facebook and youtube


What people DO see is one kind of ''extremist'' ie Tommy Robinson, shackled, gagged, arrested, curtailed by the establishment and another type ie choudary allowed to do whatever the f**k he likes


Again, I'm sure MI5 are sniffing around him and no doubt bugged his house/flat/cave or where ever he lives. Just waiting for him to slip up by possibly revealing a plot.