Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:44 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:48 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:50 pm
Merlin wrote:Swansea fans taking the piss out of us, and now their kit, interview rooms, and stadium is full of Asian sponsorship hoardings and sign writing!
Slowly turning I see.....
Cue the jack Bastards... ....![]()
Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:50 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:52 pm
SCFC wrote:There's a big difference between sponsorship and branding.
All clubs have been sponsored for years, the league is even sponsored, but our home kit is white which is the big difference.
Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:04 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:27 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:18 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:22 pm
JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.
well said
Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:27 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:29 pm
JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.
Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:47 pm
JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.
Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:54 pm
Super Kev wrote:JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.
They can also take the piss out of your blue CCFC top, as it has the red, rebranded badge on it.
Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:59 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.
In case you hadn't noticed, our sponsor is Malaysia. Why wouldn't there be Malaysian flags etc around our ground? Isn't that what sponsors expect?
Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:03 pm
JonCCFC wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.
In case you hadn't noticed, our sponsor is Malaysia. Why wouldn't there be Malaysian flags etc around our ground? Isn't that what sponsors expect?
It's hardly a sponsor as Tan runs it and he owns the club anyway. He's using us to promote his country, that's not a sponsor.
Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:22 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:JonCCFC wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.
In case you hadn't noticed, our sponsor is Malaysia. Why wouldn't there be Malaysian flags etc around our ground? Isn't that what sponsors expect?
It's hardly a sponsor as Tan runs it and he owns the club anyway. He's using us to promote his country, that's not a sponsor.
You're taking the piss right? How much more money do you want from VT?
He's supporting us financially and chooses to use us as a vehicle to promote Malaysia. What part of that isn't sponsorship?
Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:26 pm
JonCCFC wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:JonCCFC wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.
In case you hadn't noticed, our sponsor is Malaysia. Why wouldn't there be Malaysian flags etc around our ground? Isn't that what sponsors expect?
It's hardly a sponsor as Tan runs it and he owns the club anyway. He's using us to promote his country, that's not a sponsor.
You're taking the piss right? How much more money do you want from VT?
He's supporting us financially and chooses to use us as a vehicle to promote Malaysia. What part of that isn't sponsorship?
I'm not saying I want more money from him. I don't know how it can be considered a sponsor when who's running the "sponsor" owns the club that it's "sponsoring". I just find it embarassing that we're being portrayed as a Malaysian club when we're not.
Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:39 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:JonCCFC wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:JonCCFC wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.
In case you hadn't noticed, our sponsor is Malaysia. Why wouldn't there be Malaysian flags etc around our ground? Isn't that what sponsors expect?
It's hardly a sponsor as Tan runs it and he owns the club anyway. He's using us to promote his country, that's not a sponsor.
You're taking the piss right? How much more money do you want from VT?
He's supporting us financially and chooses to use us as a vehicle to promote Malaysia. What part of that isn't sponsorship?
I'm not saying I want more money from him. I don't know how it can be considered a sponsor when who's running the "sponsor" owns the club that it's "sponsoring". I just find it embarassing that we're being portrayed as a Malaysian club when we're not.
We're not. We are a welsh club playing in the English PL with a Malaysian sponsor, hence the flags etc. VT must feel he's getting a return from using Malaysia as the shirt sponsor, otherwise no doubt he would look elsewhere. It's not like he owns the country so clearly there are benefits to be had. I can't see what all the paranoia is about.
Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:49 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:JonCCFC wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:JonCCFC wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:JonCCFC wrote:To me, their kit is more purple than blue. Even if it is blue, it's not our blue. And they're taking the piss out of us because of all the Malaysia crap that's been smothered over our club by Tan, not the fact that it's Asian. They actually get an income from their sponsorship! They still have a right to take the piss in my opinion.
In case you hadn't noticed, our sponsor is Malaysia. Why wouldn't there be Malaysian flags etc around our ground? Isn't that what sponsors expect?
It's hardly a sponsor as Tan runs it and he owns the club anyway. He's using us to promote his country, that's not a sponsor.
You're taking the piss right? How much more money do you want from VT?
He's supporting us financially and chooses to use us as a vehicle to promote Malaysia. What part of that isn't sponsorship?
I'm not saying I want more money from him. I don't know how it can be considered a sponsor when who's running the "sponsor" owns the club that it's "sponsoring". I just find it embarassing that we're being portrayed as a Malaysian club when we're not.
We're not. We are a welsh club playing in the English PL with a Malaysian sponsor, hence the flags etc. VT must feel he's getting a return from using Malaysia as the shirt sponsor, otherwise no doubt he would look elsewhere. It's not like he owns the country so clearly there are benefits to be had. I can't see what all the paranoia is about.
Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:00 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:You need to grow some then. Being a Malaysian club has never even crossed my mind. I see it for what it is, a commercial arrangement. I would expect a sponsor to have its branding everywhere. Our sponsor is Malaysia, so we get the flags. All clubs are smothered in advertising, it's just because we have in effect a country as a sponsor you interpret it as some kind of invasion. Paranoia.
You seriously think he won't gain anything from it? People don't become as wealthy as he is by not seeing a bigger picture. Naive.
Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:01 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:04 pm
Gonzo wrote:aren't you the lad who is against the rebrand but happily bought the rebranded away shirt with 'MALAYSIA' on the front?
Are you embarrassed wearing it?
Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:06 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:07 pm
JonCCFC wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:You need to grow some then. Being a Malaysian club has never even crossed my mind. I see it for what it is, a commercial arrangement. I would expect a sponsor to have its branding everywhere. Our sponsor is Malaysia, so we get the flags. All clubs are smothered in advertising, it's just because we have in effect a country as a sponsor you interpret it as some kind of invasion. Paranoia.
You seriously think he won't gain anything from it? People don't become as wealthy as he is by not seeing a bigger picture. Naive.
You're not getting it.
Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:08 pm
JonCCFC wrote:Gonzo wrote:aren't you the lad who is against the rebrand but happily bought the rebranded away shirt with 'MALAYSIA' on the front?
Are you embarrassed wearing it?
Yes I bought the blue shirt.
No I'm not embarrassed wearing it, I just find the extent to which it has been promoted and advertised embarrassing.
Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:10 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:JonCCFC wrote:Gonzo wrote:aren't you the lad who is against the rebrand but happily bought the rebranded away shirt with 'MALAYSIA' on the front?
Are you embarrassed wearing it?
Yes I bought the blue shirt.
No I'm not embarrassed wearing it, I just find the extent to which it has been promoted and advertised embarrassing.
Good for you for buying it, but you are also promoting and advertising Malaysia.
Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:11 pm
Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:14 pm
Carpe Diem wrote:Confused.com
Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:17 pm
JonCCFC wrote:Carpe Diem wrote:Confused.com
See, you're not getting it.
Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:20 pm