Cardiff struggling to sign class despite Cornelius?

Update: Cardiff struggling to sign class they need despite Cornelius


Bafetimbi Gomis: Linked with Cardiff but move looks unlikely

For Cardiff, the realities of being a newly-promoted team in the Premier League are striking home. Despite paying a club record 7.5 million for Andreas Cornelius, Malky Mackay is finding it hard to spend his £25million war chest effectively.

The Cardiff manager has identified some class, high-level players but getting them into the Cardiff City Stadium is not proving easy. First of all teams like Swansea or Southampton are likely to match or better any Cardiff bid and the player is always going to accept favourable terms at the more established club.

Perhaps Mackay can snare the players he wants with lucrative contracts that outweigh the others on offer but you surely run the risk of signing only money-grabbers. This could be what we are seeing in the case of Victor Wanyama. This has proven a huge weight around the neck of relegated teams in the past and QPR right now. Surely not a risk Cardiff will take.

The Bluebirds must split their £25million between probably four or five new signings. Other established clubs outside the promoted trio of Cardiff, Hull and Crystal Palace, hunting the same players, may have less total money to spend but can spend it on a lesser number of players.

This means an outlay of say £10million on a Victor Wanyama doesn’t leave much left when you consider rumours of £12-15million bid being tabled for French striker Bafetimbi Gomis from Lyon. Of course Cardiff face the same issues trying to nab Gomis. For that reason it is unlikely Mackay can pull off either one never mind both these deals.

With Cardiff having paid 7.5 million for Cornelius and 8.5 offered for an overpriced Thomas Ince* it looks like Mackay has decided to outbid other teams for the second choice (level) players he can get. It’s a gamble but one that may work. It will all depend on just how good these players turn out to be. Ince appears to be holding out for a better club with more Premier league security, so this deal is far from done.

Another revealing indicator from European sources was news that the Bluebirds recently bid for Son Heung-Min, the South Korean international team-mate of Kim Bo-Kyung. Naturally the player chose Bayer Leverkusen in the Bundesliga and Champions League football but he fits the model.

Cardiff will probably need to wait until the transfer window is about to close before knowing who they can attract from near the top of their wanted list, if anyone. I would expect some earlier lower profile signings from N-Power league teams or abroad where Mackay has been willing to make a splash previously.

I hope Mackay’s powers of persuasion are good enough to land at least a couple of top level signings. I also hope he can persuade someone like a Dirk Kuyt to join up, or one or two other experienced players who might be past their best but still good enough to contribute. Inexperience doesn’t usually do well in the Premier League.

Spending £25million seems like an easy task and so it will be, if you don’t care who you sign. Mackay has continued to maintain he will not pay over the odds for players. He is about to have his resolve severely tested. Supporters will begin to get edgy and frustrated if new signings are not forthcoming soon.

Even City captain Mark Hudson seems to be preparing for the worst as he talks about the current squad being good enough as it is. Hudson’s confidence is admirable but once the dust settles on the first six to 10 games of the season I hope he is feeling just as confident – new signings or not.

* I previously stated I didn’t think Mackay would pay an inflated price for Blackpool star Ince. It appears I am wrong but the manager’s valuation of the player seems out of line with where other clubs value Ince. Of course Ince is still young and may improve even more but any return on investment at 8.5 million seems risky. A chance Mackay looks happy to take and a course of action, Cornelius included, the Bluebirds just might have to gamble on.

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Thats what malky wants you to think he's playin brilliant mind games, then all of a sudden booom 'The Danish Tank' comes from knowhere, no one even seen him coming

Last edited by BigBadG on Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Biggest pile of bollocks I've read ever.


And I can say that because I've read every Barnett and bigbadg thread.

For a start I doubt we only have 25 million to spend. With our new signing surely other class player will follow.

Who writes this hearsay...what a waste of ink to be fair

This post makes some reasonable points, but surely this is the challenge all teams coming into the Prem face, we've got to rely on our scouting team seeking out gems as they seem to have with today's signing, and try to compete with more established clubs for available players, if we have to do a little business on deadline day so be it.

Suppose most promoted teams face these challenges, they aren't unique to us, in fact we are fortunate we have cash to spend at all.

For a start I doubt we only have 25 million to spend. With our new signing surely other class player will follow.

Surely better to keep shit like that badly written un-factual bollocks off here.

Haha, looks like someone stayed up all night writing that guff and then the Cornelius signing shat all over it. But they still published it shoe-horning Cornelius into it, dismissing it as not a coup so it didn't contradict his argument. I've had a titsful of these sorts of articles. Everyone's a journalist these days.

Pure guess work these threads from poor news stories. Or should i say lack of news stories. Malky will not give anything away and thats the way it should be done.
Too many pretenders claim to know things but in reality they know chuff all
We all want to be informed of exciting things going on but i will only believe things when the club say so.

Biggest pile of bollocks I've read ever.


And I can say that because I've read every Barnett and bigbadg thread.

Thers no need for that your normally nice to me

For a start I doubt we only have 25 million to spend. With our new signing surely other class player will follow.

Surely better to keep shit like that badly written un-factual bollocks off here.

Haha, looks like someone stayed up all night writing that guff and then the Cornelius signing shat all over it. But they still published it shoe-horning Cornelius into it, dismissing it as not a coup so it didn't contradict his argument. I've had a titsful of these sorts of articles. Everyone's a journalist these days.

Agree with both these points just thought people might find it interesting at the time. Will be more selective in future.

Stopped reading before I finished the title

Stopped reading before I finished the title

me too

For a start I doubt we only have 25 million to spend. With our new signing surely other class player will follow.

Surely better to keep shit like that badly written un-factual bollocks off here.

Haha, looks like someone stayed up all night writing that guff and then the Cornelius signing shat all over it. But they still published it shoe-horning Cornelius into it, dismissing it as not a coup so it didn't contradict his argument. I've had a titsful of these sorts of articles. Everyone's a journalist these days.

Agree with both these points just thought people might find it interesting at the time. Will be more selective in future.

Not having a pop mate, sorry if it came across that way..i just think these articles are crap and don't deserve all the attention they get

For a start I doubt we only have 25 million to spend. With our new signing surely other class player will follow.

Surely better to keep shit like that badly written un-factual bollocks off here.

Haha, looks like someone stayed up all night writing that guff and then the Cornelius signing shat all over it. But they still published it shoe-horning Cornelius into it, dismissing it as not a coup so it didn't contradict his argument. I've had a titsful of these sorts of articles. Everyone's a journalist these days.

Agree with both these points just thought people might find it interesting at the time. Will be more selective in future.

Sorry, rant was at whoever wrote it, not at you for posting it. Post what you want!

For a start I doubt we only have 25 million to spend. With our new signing surely other class player will follow.

Surely better to keep shit like that badly written un-factual bollocks off here.

Haha, looks like someone stayed up all night writing that guff and then the Cornelius signing shat all over it. But they still published it shoe-horning Cornelius into it, dismissing it as not a coup so it didn't contradict his argument. I've had a titsful of these sorts of articles. Everyone's a journalist these days.

Agree with both these points just thought people might find it interesting at the time. Will be more selective in future.

Sorry, rant was at whoever wrote it, not at you for posting it. Post what you want!

For a start I doubt we only have 25 million to spend. With our new signing surely other class player will follow.

Surely better to keep shit like that badly written un-factual bollocks off here.

Haha, looks like someone stayed up all night writing that guff and then the Cornelius signing shat all over it. But they still published it shoe-horning Cornelius into it, dismissing it as not a coup so it didn't contradict his argument. I've had a titsful of these sorts of articles. Everyone's a journalist these days.

Agree with both these points just thought people might find it interesting at the time. Will be more selective in future.

Not having a pop mate, sorry if it came across that way..i just think these articles are crap and don't deserve all the attention they get

Cheers, I was shocked about how negative it was thats why added the question mark onto the title. I can understand how shit like this can wind you up on what should be a great day for Cardiff City.

£25m war chest? God give me strength. You'd have to be a muppet to believe that let alone anything that comes from Tans mouth. Who the hell is signing the pay cheques to keep these idiots employed?

Update: Cardiff struggling to sign class they need despite Cornelius


Bafetimbi Gomis: Linked with Cardiff but move looks unlikely

For Cardiff, the realities of being a newly-promoted team in the Premier League are striking home. Despite paying a club record 7.5 million for Andreas Cornelius, Malky Mackay is finding it hard to spend his £25million war chest effectively.

The Cardiff manager has identified some class, high-level players but getting them into the Cardiff City Stadium is not proving easy. First of all teams like Swansea or Southampton are likely to match or better any Cardiff bid and the player is always going to accept favourable terms at the more established club.

Perhaps Mackay can snare the players he wants with lucrative contracts that outweigh the others on offer but you surely run the risk of signing only money-grabbers. This could be what we are seeing in the case of Victor Wanyama. This has proven a huge weight around the neck of relegated teams in the past and QPR right now. Surely not a risk Cardiff will take.

The Bluebirds must split their £25million between probably four or five new signings. Other established clubs outside the promoted trio of Cardiff, Hull and Crystal Palace, hunting the same players, may have less total money to spend but can spend it on a lesser number of players.

This means an outlay of say £10million on a Victor Wanyama doesn’t leave much left when you consider rumours of £12-15million bid being tabled for French striker Bafetimbi Gomis from Lyon. Of course Cardiff face the same issues trying to nab Gomis. For that reason it is unlikely Mackay can pull off either one never mind both these deals.

With Cardiff having paid 7.5 million for Cornelius and 8.5 offered for an overpriced Thomas Ince* it looks like Mackay has decided to outbid other teams for the second choice (level) players he can get. It’s a gamble but one that may work. It will all depend on just how good these players turn out to be. Ince appears to be holding out for a better club with more Premier league security, so this deal is far from done.

Another revealing indicator from European sources was news that the Bluebirds recently bid for Son Heung-Min, the South Korean international team-mate of Kim Bo-Kyung. Naturally the player chose Bayer Leverkusen in the Bundesliga and Champions League football but he fits the model.



Cardiff will probably need to wait until the transfer window is about to close before knowing who they can attract from near the top of their wanted list, if anyone. I would expect some earlier lower profile signings from N-Power league teams or abroad where Mackay has been willing to make a splash previously.

I hope Mackay’s powers of persuasion are good enough to land at least a couple of top level signings. I also hope he can persuade someone like a Dirk Kuyt to join up, or one or two other experienced players who might be past their best but still good enough to contribute. Inexperience doesn’t usually do well in the Premier League.

Spending £25million seems like an easy task and so it will be, if you don’t care who you sign. Mackay has continued to maintain he will not pay over the odds for players. He is about to have his resolve severely tested. Supporters will begin to get edgy and frustrated if new signings are not forthcoming soon.

Even City captain Mark Hudson seems to be preparing for the worst as he talks about the current squad being good enough as it is. Hudson’s confidence is admirable but once the dust settles on the first six to 10 games of the season I hope he is feeling just as confident – new signings or not.

* I previously stated I didn’t think Mackay would pay an inflated price for Blackpool star Ince. It appears I am wrong but the manager’s valuation of the player seems out of line with where other clubs value Ince. Of course Ince is still young and may improve even more but any return on investment at 8.5 million seems risky. A chance Mackay looks happy to take and a course of action, Cornelius included, the Bluebirds just might have to gamble on.

Don’t forget to follow @FanZone on Twitter.

Can't say I like the tone of this post.The author seems to be whistling in the wind as its content is high on opinion and guessing and low on facts.More than ever after today its silly to try and second guess Malky as this latest signing appears to have caught out even our ITK guys and the assessment that Malky has a 25m budget could also be a red herring which the author seems to have based his logic on.

Load of shit! Malky's taking his time and signing the right players who'll in with our team. Struggling to sign players

Thinks some fans think now we are in the premier league tha neymar and messi should be on our sights. We r New boys so av to look at diamonds in the rough. I havent seen Cornelius apart from a few YouTube clips which impressed me but he's a Danish international and has chosen us over possible champions league football next season so let's give hom a fair crack instead of sneering at him because he's not a household name

Update: Cardiff struggling to sign class they need despite Cornelius


Bafetimbi Gomis: Linked with Cardiff but move looks unlikely

For Cardiff, the realities of being a newly-promoted team in the Premier League are striking home. Despite paying a club record 7.5 million for Andreas Cornelius, Malky Mackay is finding it hard to spend his £25million war chest effectively.

The Cardiff manager has identified some class, high-level players but getting them into the Cardiff City Stadium is not proving easy. First of all teams like Swansea or Southampton are likely to match or better any Cardiff bid and the player is always going to accept favourable terms at the more established club.

Perhaps Mackay can snare the players he wants with lucrative contracts that outweigh the others on offer but you surely run the risk of signing only money-grabbers. This could be what we are seeing in the case of Victor Wanyama. This has proven a huge weight around the neck of relegated teams in the past and QPR right now. Surely not a risk Cardiff will take.

The Bluebirds must split their £25million between probably four or five new signings. Other established clubs outside the promoted trio of Cardiff, Hull and Crystal Palace, hunting the same players, may have less total money to spend but can spend it on a lesser number of players.

This means an outlay of say £10million on a Victor Wanyama doesn’t leave much left when you consider rumours of £12-15million bid being tabled for French striker Bafetimbi Gomis from Lyon. Of course Cardiff face the same issues trying to nab Gomis. For that reason it is unlikely Mackay can pull off either one never mind both these deals.

With Cardiff having paid 7.5 million for Cornelius and 8.5 offered for an overpriced Thomas Ince* it looks like Mackay has decided to outbid other teams for the second choice (level) players he can get. It’s a gamble but one that may work. It will all depend on just how good these players turn out to be. Ince appears to be holding out for a better club with more Premier league security, so this deal is far from done.

Another revealing indicator from European sources was news that the Bluebirds recently bid for Son Heung-Min, the South Korean international team-mate of Kim Bo-Kyung. Naturally the player chose Bayer Leverkusen in the Bundesliga and Champions League football but he fits the model.

Cardiff will probably need to wait until the transfer window is about to close before knowing who they can attract from near the top of their wanted list, if anyone. I would expect some earlier lower profile signings from N-Power league teams or abroad where Mackay has been willing to make a splash previously.

I hope Mackay’s powers of persuasion are good enough to land at least a couple of top level signings. I also hope he can persuade someone like a Dirk Kuyt to join up, or one or two other experienced players who might be past their best but still good enough to contribute. Inexperience doesn’t usually do well in the Premier League.

Spending £25million seems like an easy task and so it will be, if you don’t care who you sign. Mackay has continued to maintain he will not pay over the odds for players. He is about to have his resolve severely tested. Supporters will begin to get edgy and frustrated if new signings are not forthcoming soon.

Even City captain Mark Hudson seems to be preparing for the worst as he talks about the current squad being good enough as it is. Hudson’s confidence is admirable but once the dust settles on the first six to 10 games of the season I hope he is feeling just as confident – new signings or not.

* I previously stated I didn’t think Mackay would pay an inflated price for Blackpool star Ince. It appears I am wrong but the manager’s valuation of the player seems out of line with where other clubs value Ince. Of course Ince is still young and may improve even more but any return on investment at 8.5 million seems risky. A chance Mackay looks happy to take and a course of action, Cornelius included, the Bluebirds just might have to gamble on.

Don’t forget to follow @FanZone on Twitter.

What a load of bollocks

A bit harsh from some of you to have a go at the article.

If you were a class football act with potential to go to the premier like Ince or Wany then you would be looking at a more established team than one just promoted for the first time in 50 years. Just look at the other 2 promoted teams, they have not exactly signed the quality we have been looking for.

The article mentions we might have to spend over the odds to get our player. We have gone £8 million for Ince so who thinks he is worth that? This Cornelious has cost us £8 m and lets be honest here how many of us think this is value 100%.

It is not going to be easy to get the quality in.

A bit harsh from some of you to have a go at the article.

If you were a class football act with potential to go to the premier like Ince or Wany then you would be looking at a more established team than one just promoted for the first time in 50 years. Just look at the other 2 promoted teams, they have not exactly signed the quality we have been looking for.

The article mentions we might have to spend over the odds to get our player. We have gone £8 million for Ince so who thinks he is worth that? This Cornelious has cost us £8 m and lets be honest here how many of us think this is value 100%.

It is not going to be easy to get the quality in.

You're a negative get fair play lol

A lot of sense spoke in that blog, specially the part about ince.

Biased and very opioniated article. Stick to the facts mate. We've just made a class signing, more will follow, we're never going to sign the top players but that's the same for any newly promoted side.

Ince - Is he worth £8.5m? Considering Zaha went for £15m and Ince is just as good if not better then I'd say yes it's probably fair considering English players seem to command a higher fee.

A bit harsh from some of you to have a go at the article.

If you were a class football act with potential to go to the premier like Ince or Wany then you would be looking at a more established team than one just promoted for the first time in 50 years. Just look at the other 2 promoted teams, they have not exactly signed the quality we have been looking for.

The article mentions we might have to spend over the odds to get our player. We have gone £8 million for Ince so who thinks he is worth that? This Cornelious has cost us £8 m and lets be honest here how many of us think this is value 100%.

It is not going to be easy to get the quality in.

You're a negative get fair play lol

But am I right?

A bit harsh from some of you to have a go at the article.

If you were a class football act with potential to go to the premier like Ince or Wany then you would be looking at a more established team than one just promoted for the first time in 50 years. Just look at the other 2 promoted teams, they have not exactly signed the quality we have been looking for.

The article mentions we might have to spend over the odds to get our player. We have gone £8 million for Ince so who thinks he is worth that? This Cornelious has cost us £8 m and lets be honest here how many of us think this is value 100%.

It is not going to be easy to get the quality in.

You're a negative get fair play lol

But am I right?

You're basing your opinion on nothing more than speculation.

How do you know what Ince and wanyama are thinking? How do you know we are interested in them?

On the basis of scout reports and people who have witnessed Cornelius play live (Ole Solksjaer, who should know a good striker) this boy has huge potential.

A bit harsh from some of you to have a go at the article.

If you were a class football act with potential to go to the premier like Ince or Wany then you would be looking at a more established team than one just promoted for the first time in 50 years. Just look at the other 2 promoted teams, they have not exactly signed the quality we have been looking for.

The article mentions we might have to spend over the odds to get our player. We have gone £8 million for Ince so who thinks he is worth that? This Cornelious has cost us £8 m and lets be honest here how many of us think this is value 100%.

It is not going to be easy to get the quality in.

You're a negative get fair play lol

But am I right?

You're basing your opinion on nothing more than speculation.

How do you know what Ince and wanyama are thinking? How do you know we are interested in them?

On the basis of scout reports and people who have witnessed Cornelius play live (Ole Solksjaer, who should know a good striker) this boy has huge potential.

How do we know if we are interested in them, Have we not put bids in for them?

Who says we have bid for them?

If yesterday shows anything its dont believe whats written on here as MM keeps everything too close to get leaked........did anybody have a whiff about Cornelius??????? Nope!