The position of 'Director of Football'

Why don't these positions ever work in the UK as they are very succesful elsewhere.?

I believe it's a difference in culture between us and other countries.

Our footballing culture has expectations of a manager set at complete control whilst other countries they usually concentrate on coaching and team selection whilst transfers/contracts etc are out of their hands. However, our managers see the position as an intrusion on their role and it does add pressure when it is a highly regarded footballer who has managed sides in the role.

I think we are slowly going the same way as Europe though with the Chief Executive role creeping more and more towards what Europeans would see as a Director of Football role.

In Europe you generally have a ''coach'' responsible for all things to do with the team. But transfers/admin/contracts
and all that side of things is dealt with upstairs by the Director of Football. Its seen as intrusive here particularly in
case like Newcastle when Kinnear has been brought in deliberately to undermine Pardew

Well I reckon Pardew is close to the sack and who then steps into the hot seat ? Yep the director of football. Its gonna happen

Why don't these positions ever work in the UK as they are very succesful elsewhere.?

It's a bit like councils, the workers do all the work and make the deicisons, the directors get all the praise (and high salries) because they think they make decisions and have control. They just have to be able to be seen to be in charge.

Abroad it's different, you feck with the workers and they'll turn on you, so they make sure the people at the top make the decisions in the first place!

This was a party political broadcast on behalf of Wolfie - Citizen Smith to all you young gits!

Agree with the coach and manager differences, between uk and europe and why they are needed.

I'd say that he's at newcastle to try and get pardew to resign. I think pardew signed an 8yr contract, that would be one hell of a pay off when you think he's entitled to it all until he finds another job if he's sacked. But if he resigns he's entitled to nothing.

Why don't these positions ever work in the UK as they are very succesful elsewhere.?

It's a bit like councils, the workers do all the work and make the deicisons, the directors get all the praise (and high salries) because they think they make decisions and have control. They just have to be able to be seen to be in charge.

Abroad it's different, you feck with the workers and they'll turn on you, so they make sure the people at the top make the decisions in the first place!

This was a party political broadcast on behalf of Wolfie - Citizen Smith to all you young gits!

Do they f**k. There's more work in filling out a P45 then it is in some of the Council workers Ive come across. Its only because of the Union mentality that many of them haven't been given the boot years ago!!!! A few years ago I wanted to get rid of all the bin men and have the people on community service do the work instead saving a good amount of money. Do you really think that the workers would come up with ideas which would save councils money..? NO CHANCE!!!

Why don't these positions ever work in the UK as they are very succesful elsewhere.?

It's a bit like councils, the workers do all the work and make the deicisons, the directors get all the praise (and high salries) because they think they make decisions and have control. They just have to be able to be seen to be in charge.

Abroad it's different, you feck with the workers and they'll turn on you, so they make sure the people at the top make the decisions in the first place!

This was a party political broadcast on behalf of Wolfie - Citizen Smith to all you young gits!

Do they f**k. There's more work in filling out a P45 then it is in some of the Council workers Ive come across. Its only because of the Union mentality that many of them haven't been given the boot years ago!!!! A few years ago I wanted to get rid of all the bin men and have the people on community service do the work instead saving a good amount of money. Do you really think that the workers would come up with ideas which would save councils money..? NO CHANCE!!!

Community Service for bins, feck me each round would take two weeks! and that's mainly because they'd be robbing everyone they saw leave their homes or their houses.

Sack councillors - should only be one councillor per town/city/50 mile square area - that would save a fortune.

Then sack the managers who do f**k all - that would save another fortune.

Then sack those in the welsh assembly and their hangers on who do feck all - another fortune.

Then sell the monstrosity built at a cost of £150m down the bay that they call their home, and move them back into the city centre and at the same time, again, 12 people should be enough to run Wales!

Let the workers do the work, they are the least expensive and if they don;t want to work, you'll always find asomeone else who does!

Councillors, AM's are all a joke, do feck all and blame everyone else - mmmm now why did I reply to a message

Amazing what a bollocking in the street does for councillors, etc they don't come back - why - they aint interested in the first place!

I believe it's a difference in culture between us and other countries.

Our footballing culture has expectations of a manager set at complete control whilst other countries they usually concentrate on coaching and team selection whilst transfers/contracts etc are out of their hands. However, our managers see the position as an intrusion on their role and it does add pressure when it is a highly regarded footballer who has managed sides in the role.

I think we are slowly going the same way as Europe though with the Chief Executive role creeping more and more towards what Europeans would see as a Director of Football role.

Sums it up for me.

Arri potta. Superb post.