Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:44 am
Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:49 am
Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:49 am
McPhailS wrote:This isn't meant to be having a go at anyone......I have seen all the posts regarding "plastics."
In the 80's and up to fairly recent times CCFC had a certain brand of fan. They would turn up in their droves when clubs with a desent away following would come to NP. You would never see them until the next "lads day out." Others would go to away games only.....it was widely accepted.
A good number of fans also had a second club...usually clubd that had a "hooligan" reputation.
I dont remember anyone slagging these fans off.
What's worse? Local people following their club or those that were interested in violence ?
I believe many have started following their club again due to trouble being eradicated at CCS. Of course some follow because we have become succesful...what's wrong with that? Would you pay £30 to watch shite?
Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:50 am
Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:51 am
Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:52 am
Mario Polotelli wrote:It was part of youth culture, and was not exclusive to CCFC so get over it.
Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:53 am
McPhailS wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:It was part of youth culture, and was not exclusive to CCFC so get over it.
So was sniffing glue.
You missed the point on "plastics" I was making.
Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:56 am
Mario Polotelli wrote:Two of the bIggest CCFC fans I know - City Gent and Annis - are both former hooligans who had an undercover doumentary filmed on their activies. Theyve since both grown up a lot by their own admission.
You telling me they are plastics and dont love the club?
Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:58 am
McPhailS wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Two of the bIggest CCFC fans I know - City Gent and Annis - are both former hooligans who had an undercover doumentary filmed on their activies. Theyve since both grown up a lot by their own admission.
You telling me they are plastics and dont love the club?
The point Im making is that some here slag off supposed "plastics."
There is no stereotype fan........ and certainly none that are more important than others.
Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:02 pm
McPhailS wrote:This isn't meant to be having a go at anyone......I have seen all the posts regarding "plastics."
In the 80's and up to fairly recent times CCFC had a certain brand of fan. They would turn up in their droves when clubs with a desent away following would come to NP. You would never see them until the next "lads day out." Others would go to away games only.....it was widely accepted.
A good number of fans also had a second club...usually clubd that had a "hooligan" reputation.
I dont remember anyone slagging these fans off.
What's worse? Local people following their club or those that were interested in violence ?
I believe many have started following their club again due to trouble being eradicated at CCS. Of course some follow because we have become succesful...what's wrong with that? Would you pay £30 to watch shite?
Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:04 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:McPhailS wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Two of the bIggest CCFC fans I know - City Gent and Annis - are both former hooligans who had an undercover doumentary filmed on their activies. Theyve since both grown up a lot by their own admission.
You telling me they are plastics and dont love the club?
The point Im making is that some here slag off supposed "plastics."
There is no stereotype fan........ and certainly none that are more important than others.
Eh?
Totaly contradicts your first post wherby you stereotyped Cardiff fans in the 80s
Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:17 pm
Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:32 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:Majority of our away support was "lads" or "hooligans" as you call them.
The myth that they just turned up for the violence is exactly that. A myth.
Most love the club, and the trouble side was an added benefit to them.
Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:34 pm
McPhailS wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Majority of our away support was "lads" or "hooligans" as you call them.
The myth that they just turned up for the violence is exactly that. A myth.
Most love the club, and the trouble side was an added benefit to them.
So the enclosure would be packed for the clubs with large away followings and near empty for the like of Orient, Exeter etc....... myth?
Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:34 pm
Fairwater Youth wrote:McPhailS wrote:This isn't meant to be having a go at anyone......I have seen all the posts regarding "plastics."
In the 80's and up to fairly recent times CCFC had a certain brand of fan. They would turn up in their droves when clubs with a desent away following would come to NP. You would never see them until the next "lads day out." Others would go to away games only.....it was widely accepted.
A good number of fans also had a second club...usually clubd that had a "hooligan" reputation.
I dont remember anyone slagging these fans off.
What's worse? Local people following their club or those that were interested in violence ?
I believe many have started following their club again due to trouble being eradicated at CCS. Of course some follow because we have become succesful...what's wrong with that? Would you pay £30 to watch shite?
I never had a second club I used to travel from London for every Saturday home game from the late 80's and most mid week games
We used to have the same 300-500 at most away games, We all stood together on the terraces, as for our hooligan element most normal fans would be quite happy that they were in the same pub as you in some Northern towns when the local idiots used to pop out as it's Cardiff.
Our Hooligan element was amongst our most loyal supporters home & away, They were part of the hardcore 2000 that used to always be at Ninian Park in the 80s & 90's
People started following the club because they became succesful again it will be interesting to see how many "new fans" will continue to follow the club if we tumbled back down the leagues again
I'll put my house on it that those that I stood with on the Bob bank in the dungeon will be amongst them unless they have passed on or moved to the other side of the world.
Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:39 pm
Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:53 pm
Mario Polotelli wrote:McPhailS wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Majority of our away support was "lads" or "hooligans" as you call them.
The myth that they just turned up for the violence is exactly that. A myth.
Most love the club, and the trouble side was an added benefit to them.
So the enclosure would be packed for the clubs with large away followings and near empty for the like of Orient, Exeter etc....... myth?
Cant you read Biggles?
Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:18 pm
McPhailS wrote:This isn't meant to be having a go at anyone......I have seen all the posts regarding "plastics."
In the 80's and up to fairly recent times CCFC had a certain brand of fan. They would turn up in their droves when clubs with a desent away following would come to NP. You would never see them until the next "lads day out." Others would go to away games only.....it was widely accepted.
A good number of fans also had a second club...usually clubd that had a "hooligan" reputation.
I dont remember anyone slagging these fans off.
What's worse? Local people following their club or those that were interested in violence ?
I believe many have started following their club again due to trouble being eradicated at CCS. Of course some follow because we have become succesful...what's wrong with that? Would you pay £30 to watch shite?
Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:23 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:McPhailS wrote:This isn't meant to be having a go at anyone......I have seen all the posts regarding "plastics."
In the 80's and up to fairly recent times CCFC had a certain brand of fan. They would turn up in their droves when clubs with a desent away following would come to NP. You would never see them until the next "lads day out." Others would go to away games only.....it was widely accepted.
A good number of fans also had a second club...usually clubd that had a "hooligan" reputation.
I dont remember anyone slagging these fans off.
What's worse? Local people following their club or those that were interested in violence ?
I believe many have started following their club again due to trouble being eradicated at CCS. Of course some follow because we have become succesful...what's wrong with that? Would you pay £30 to watch shite?
I just wish we would get away from this pointless labelling of fans.
I couldn't care less whether someone has supported CCFC for 30 minutes or 30 years they are City fans all of them. I also hate the slagging off of fans who leave the stadium 10 minutes early, fans who wear red or blue, attend 1 game or 38, are ex-hooligans or not it simply doesn't matter.
When it comes to ticket allocation there are long standing ways of doing that and they should continue, but that does-not mean that a season ticket holder or regular away day traveller is any better or more emotionally attached than anyone who isn't.
As said it is a pointless exercise.
Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:25 pm
McPhailS wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:McPhailS wrote:Mario Polotelli wrote:Majority of our away support was "lads" or "hooligans" as you call them.
The myth that they just turned up for the violence is exactly that. A myth.
Most love the club, and the trouble side was an added benefit to them.
So the enclosure would be packed for the clubs with large away followings and near empty for the like of Orient, Exeter etc....... myth?
Cant you read Biggles?
No gambling putting you in a bad mood?
Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:26 pm
McPhailS wrote:Fairwater Youth wrote:McPhailS wrote:This isn't meant to be having a go at anyone......I have seen all the posts regarding "plastics."
In the 80's and up to fairly recent times CCFC had a certain brand of fan. They would turn up in their droves when clubs with a desent away following would come to NP. You would never see them until the next "lads day out." Others would go to away games only.....it was widely accepted.
A good number of fans also had a second club...usually clubd that had a "hooligan" reputation.
I dont remember anyone slagging these fans off.
What's worse? Local people following their club or those that were interested in violence ?
I believe many have started following their club again due to trouble being eradicated at CCS. Of course some follow because we have become succesful...what's wrong with that? Would you pay £30 to watch shite?
I never had a second club I used to travel from London for every Saturday home game from the late 80's and most mid week games
We used to have the same 300-500 at most away games, We all stood together on the terraces, as for our hooligan element most normal fans would be quite happy that they were in the same pub as you in some Northern towns when the local idiots used to pop out as it's Cardiff.
Our Hooligan element was amongst our most loyal supporters home & away, They were part of the hardcore 2000 that used to always be at Ninian Park in the 80s & 90's
People started following the club because they became succesful again it will be interesting to see how many "new fans" will continue to follow the club if we tumbled back down the leagues again
I'll put my house on it that those that I stood with on the Bob bank in the dungeon will be amongst them unless they have passed on or moved to the other side of the world.
"Normal fans?" So the most loyal were abnormal?
Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:40 pm
McPhailS wrote:This isn't meant to be having a go at anyone......I have seen all the posts regarding "plastics."
In the 80's and up to fairly recent times CCFC had a certain brand of fan. They would turn up in their droves when clubs with a desent away following would come to NP. You would never see them until the next "lads day out." Others would go to away games only.....it was widely accepted.
A good number of fans also had a second club...usually clubd that had a "hooligan" reputation.
I dont remember anyone slagging these fans off.
What's worse? Local people following their club or those that were interested in violence ?
I believe many have started following their club again due to trouble being eradicated at CCS. Of course some follow because we have become succesful...what's wrong with that? Would you pay £30 to watch shite?
Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:42 pm
Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:59 pm
but I'd like our blue shirts back please.
Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:40 pm
McPhailS wrote:This isn't meant to be having a go at anyone......I have seen all the posts regarding "plastics."
In the 80's and up to fairly recent times CCFC had a certain brand of fan. They would turn up in their droves when clubs with a desent away following would come to NP. You would never see them until the next "lads day out." Others would go to away games only.....it was widely accepted.
A good number of fans also had a second club...usually clubd that had a "hooligan" reputation.
I dont remember anyone slagging these fans off.
What's worse? Local people following their club or those that were interested in violence ?
I believe many have started following their club again due to trouble being eradicated at CCS. Of course some follow because we have become succesful...what's wrong with that? Would you pay £30 to watch shite?
Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:47 pm
bluelikeyou wrote:McPhailS wrote:This isn't meant to be having a go at anyone......I have seen all the posts regarding "plastics."
In the 80's and up to fairly recent times CCFC had a certain brand of fan. They would turn up in their droves when clubs with a desent away following would come to NP. You would never see them until the next "lads day out." Others would go to away games only.....it was widely accepted.
A good number of fans also had a second club...usually clubd that had a "hooligan" reputation.
I dont remember anyone slagging these fans off.
What's worse? Local people following their club or those that were interested in violence ?
I believe many have started following their club again due to trouble being eradicated at CCS. Of course some follow because we have become succesful...what's wrong with that? Would you pay £30 to watch shite?
Safe to say you are one that wouldnt pay to watch 'shite' then is it? I did for years and years that shite was cardiff city and it used to hurt like hell wen we were shit but hey its my club im loyal and we used to stick with it. the crap you wrote about everyone having second clubs? im also guesing you do. i don't. never have never will. you really got no idea what our fan base was like ten/20 year ago do you? fighting was part of growing up for lads but 'casuals' wuld not travel all the way to Hartlepool and Darlington and Grimsby etc etc for a fight. they were going for the day out to folow they club. if wat yr trying to say is that football hoolgans werent proper fans u couldnt be further from the truth
Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:58 pm
bluelikeyou wrote:McPhailS wrote:This isn't meant to be having a go at anyone......I have seen all the posts regarding "plastics."
In the 80's and up to fairly recent times CCFC had a certain brand of fan. They would turn up in their droves when clubs with a desent away following would come to NP. You would never see them until the next "lads day out." Others would go to away games only.....it was widely accepted.
A good number of fans also had a second club...usually clubd that had a "hooligan" reputation.
I dont remember anyone slagging these fans off.
What's worse? Local people following their club or those that were interested in violence ?
I believe many have started following their club again due to trouble being eradicated at CCS. Of course some follow because we have become succesful...what's wrong with that? Would you pay £30 to watch shite?
Safe to say you are one that wouldnt pay to watch 'shite' then is it? I did for years and years that shite was cardiff city and it used to hurt like hell wen we were shit but hey its my club im loyal and we used to stick with it. the crap you wrote about everyone having second clubs? im also guesing you do. i don't. never have never will. you really got no idea what our fan base was like ten/20 year ago do you? fighting was part of growing up for lads but 'casuals' wuld not travel all the way to Hartlepool and Darlington and Grimsby etc etc for a fight. they were going for the day out to folow they club. if wat yr trying to say is that football hoolgans werent proper fans u couldnt be further from the truth
Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:00 pm
McPhailS wrote:This isn't meant to be having a go at anyone......I have seen all the posts regarding "plastics."
In the 80's and up to fairly recent times CCFC had a certain brand of fan. They would turn up in their droves when clubs with a desent away following would come to NP. You would never see them until the next "lads day out." Others would go to away games only.....it was widely accepted.
A good number of fans also had a second club...usually clubd that had a "hooligan" reputation.
I dont remember anyone slagging these fans off.
What's worse? Local people following their club or those that were interested in violence ?
I believe many have started following their club again due to trouble being eradicated at CCS. Of course some follow because we have become succesful...what's wrong with that? Would you pay £30 to watch shite?
Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:01 pm
Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:08 pm