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' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:25 pm

Link to join
https://www.facebook.com/groups/BLUEBIRDSUNITE/?fref=ts :ayatollah:

Along with 600 other City fans I attended the Bluebirds Unite meeting at the Corporation Pub this evening.

It was a productive get together and Sian Branson pointed out the aims of the group and how it is hoped the group can move forward.

The idea is simple, wear blue and retain our identity as a blue club.

This is not a 'get Tan out' group, it is a movement to keep the blue very much part of Cardiff City Football Club.

Sian spoke passionately to the packed out pub and is looking to get a meeting with Vincent Tan and club officials to discuss the issues that thousands of supporters have with the colour change.

As was said this evening, our support will welcome supporters from far and wide, including support from Malaysia but at the same time please respect our wishes and what we feel strongly about.

I can see this group getting bigger and generating a lot of support.

There is to be a committee formed and registering the group as a charity.

The group is not against modern football and I have seen the pictures of a small flag being held up but it must be stressed that the organisers of the group do not share this thought and the group does not support the message on the banner.

Annis spoke at the meeting and asked those in attendance not to boycott games but to turn up wearing blue. This is one of the most powerful statements we can show to the watching world.

I did not know what to expect from tonight's meeting but I felt positive leaving there tonight that this group has the right intentions and are not a disruptive group intent on driving out our biggest shareholder but more the case of uniting the stakeholders, the fans.
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Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:29 pm

carlccfc wrote:Along with 600 other City fans I attended the Bluebirds Unite meeting at the Corporation Pub this evening.

It was a productive get together and Sian Branson pointed out the aims of the group and how it is hoped the group can move forward.

The idea is simple, wear blue and retain our identity as a blue club.

This is not a 'get Tan out' group, it is a movement to to keep the blue very much part of Cardiff City Football Club.

Sian spoke passionately to the packed out pub and is looking to get a meeting with Vincent Tan and club officials to discuss the issues that thousands of supporters have with the colour change.

As was said this evening, our support will welcome supporters from far and wide, including support from Malaysia but at the same time please respect our wishes and what we feel strongly about.

I can see this group getting bigger and generating a lot of support.

There is to be a committee formed and registering the group as a charity.

The group is not against modern football and I have seen the pictures of a small flag being held up but it must be stressed that the organisers of the group do not share this thought and the group does not support the message on the banner.

Annis spoke at the meeting and asked those in attendance not to boycott games but to turn up wearing blue. This is one of the most powerful statements we can show to the watching world.

I did not know what to expect from tonight's meeting but I felt positive leaving there tonight that this group has the right intentions and are not disruptive group intent on driving out our biggest shareholder but more the case of uniting the stakeholders, the fans.


Annis has been fully spot on turning up etc. A sea of blue on the world stage and it will send signals to other fans we are proud of our identity and heritage.

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:39 pm

Carl if it's to promote the clubs history etc then I'm sure all City fans will be behind it, but the danger is that some will want it to become divisive and thats where the problem lies. Even the piece in the echo of sians argument with her butcher was needless in my opinion. Many, like myself would like to see us play in blue again but dont want to bite the hand that feeds us.
If it wasn't for the rebrand Vincent Tan would be our best owner ever by an absolute country mile. He travels over from malaysia frequently, he (along with tg) saved us from liquidation, he lets malky get on with the football side of things and he has supported his vision for the club 100%.
I wish his PR with the fans was better but in the grand scheme of things I still thing he has been a massive positive for this club.
I sincerely hope that bluebirds unite will continue to be constructive in their way of going about things and will be quick to dispel any sign of antagonism which is bound rise up from 1 or 2

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:45 pm

She's a great girl is Sian, I grew up with her as kids and she's always had a heart of gold bless her. The girl did well tonight.
Thank you Sian.

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:48 pm

I completely forgot that it was on tonight so I missed the meeting but was there much else said about whats planned apart from just turning up in blue?

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:49 pm

thehumblegringo wrote:Carl if it's to promote the clubs history etc then I'm sure all City fans will be behind it, but the danger is that some will want it to become divisive and thats where the problem lies. Even the piece in the echo of sians argument with her butcher was needless in my opinion. Many, like myself would like to see us play in blue again but dont want to bite the hand that feeds us.
If it wasn't for the rebrand Vincent Tan would be our best owner ever by an absolute country mile. He travels over from malaysia frequently, he (along with tg) saved us from liquidation, he lets malky get on with the football side of things and he has supported his vision for the club 100%.
I wish his PR with the fans was better but in the grand scheme of things I still thing he has been a massive positive for this club.
I sincerely hope that bluebirds unite will continue to be constructive in their way of going about things and will be quick to dispel any sign of antagonism which is bound rise up from 1 or 2

I cannot disagree with nearly all you say, I have not seen the piece regarding the butcher though.

If the group was about trying to get rid of Tan then I would be no where near it, but I believe Sian has the right base to build this group from and seeing her in action tonight, I can not see her letting anyone taking the group down after the amount of hard work she has put in.

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:51 pm

Merlin wrote:She's a great girl is Sian, I grew up with her as kids and she's always had a heart of gold bless her. The girl did well tonight.
Thank you Sian.


:malky:

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:51 pm

I am very concerned that at a time when we have much to look forward to we will become divisive and also antagonise Tan. Whether we like it or not he has ploughed money in and he does believe he can only corner the Asian market through using the colour red. Whilst I am BLUE we do need to presently look at the bigger picture :ayatollah: .

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:03 pm

Brezza wrote:I am very concerned that at a time when we have much to look forward to we will become divisive and also antagonise Tan. Whether we like it or not he has ploughed money in and he does believe he can only corner the Asian market through using the colour red. Whilst I am BLUE we do need to presently look at the bigger picture :ayatollah: .


We are divided and have been for the past year. Hopefully, this is the start of us healing the wounds.

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:08 pm

Brezza wrote:I am very concerned that at a time when we have much to look forward to we will become divisive and also antagonise Tan. Whether we like it or not he has ploughed money in and he does believe he can only corner the Asian market through using the colour red. Whilst I am BLUE we do need to presently look at the bigger picture :ayatollah: .


I didn't realise there was anyone left that still believed this.

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:09 pm

Nedd Glas wrote:
Brezza wrote:I am very concerned that at a time when we have much to look forward to we will become divisive and also antagonise Tan. Whether we like it or not he has ploughed money in and he does believe he can only corner the Asian market through using the colour red. Whilst I am BLUE we do need to presently look at the bigger picture :ayatollah: .


We are divided and have been for the past year. Hopefully, this is the start of us healing the wounds.


This is one of the challenges that faces the group, convincing Tan that the best way forward is to promote Cardiff City as how everyone sees us and not the image he thinks is needed.

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:18 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Nedd Glas wrote:
Brezza wrote:I am very concerned that at a time when we have much to look forward to we will become divisive and also antagonise Tan. Whether we like it or not he has ploughed money in and he does believe he can only corner the Asian market through using the colour red. Whilst I am BLUE we do need to presently look at the bigger picture :ayatollah: .


We are divided and have been for the past year. Hopefully, this is the start of us healing the wounds.


This is one of the challenges that faces the group, convincing Tan that the best way forward is to promote Cardiff City as how everyone sees us and not the image he thinks is needed.


True, Ian. Some people have said we've started this kind of thing too late but it's never too late.

Gutted that it spoilt the promotion season for some of us, though.

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:22 pm

Brezza wrote:I am very concerned that at a time when we have much to look forward to we will become divisive and also antagonise Tan. Whether we like it or not he has ploughed money in and he does believe he can only corner the Asian market through using the colour red. Whilst I am BLUE we do need to presently look at the bigger picture :ayatollah: .


We will not be divisive and antagonise Tan. Tan has already been divisive and antagonised us.

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:24 pm

harold pinta wrote:
Brezza wrote:I am very concerned that at a time when we have much to look forward to we will become divisive and also antagonise Tan. Whether we like it or not he has ploughed money in and he does believe he can only corner the Asian market through using the colour red. Whilst I am BLUE we do need to presently look at the bigger picture :ayatollah: .


I didn't realise there was anyone left that still believed this.

I think you need to read it again Harold

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:43 pm

Great to see that the ball is finally rolling :ayatollah:
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Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:13 pm

Glad to see a good turn out.

Hopefully things remain peaceful and both sides show respect and no annomosity to each other,only then will bridges be rebuilt.


But most happy to see the lack of post aimed the fans who didn't attend being labled plastics and what not.


Sorry to steal a line from recent movie but "Big things have Small beginnings" :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:25 pm

People need to see the bigger picture. Tan sees us a more profitable business and more attractive to investors in red not blue simple as that. Red is the way forward, back in blue could see tan leaving and see us going backwards again. Bit risky if you ask me.

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:12 am

cakey-8t7 wrote:People need to see the bigger picture. Tan sees us a more profitable business and more attractive to investors in red not blue simple as that. Red is the way forward, back in blue could see tan leaving and see us going backwards again. Bit risky if you ask me.

We all know what Tan's weird beliefs are. We just want the club back in blue and we're never going to give in, it's as simple as that.

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:15 am

carlccfc wrote:Link to join
https://www.facebook.com/groups/BLUEBIRDSUNITE/?fref=ts :ayatollah:

Along with 600 other City fans I attended the Bluebirds Unite meeting at the Corporation Pub this evening.

It was a productive get together and Sian Branson pointed out the aims of the group and how it is hoped the group can move forward.

The idea is simple, wear blue and retain our identity as a blue club.

This is not a 'get Tan out' group, it is a movement to keep the blue very much part of Cardiff City Football Club.

Sian spoke passionately to the packed out pub and is looking to get a meeting with Vincent Tan and club officials to discuss the issues that thousands of supporters have with the colour change.

As was said this evening, our support will welcome supporters from far and wide, including support from Malaysia but at the same time please respect our wishes and what we feel strongly about.

I can see this group getting bigger and generating a lot of support.

There is to be a committee formed and registering the group as a charity.

The group is not against modern football and I have seen the pictures of a small flag being held up but it must be stressed that the organisers of the group do not share this thought and the group does not support the message on the banner.

Annis spoke at the meeting and asked those in attendance not to boycott games but to turn up wearing blue. This is one of the most powerful statements we can show to the watching world.

I did not know what to expect from tonight's meeting but I felt positive leaving there tonight that this group has the right intentions and are not a disruptive group intent on driving out our biggest shareholder but more the case of uniting the stakeholders, the fans.


Not meant to be a negative question but Can I ask what the reasoning is behind registering the group as a charity? What is going to be its main charitable purpose? Find this interesting

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:43 am

Sounds very promising.

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:45 am

Natman Blue wrote:
Not meant to be a negative question but Can I ask what the reasoning is behind registering the group as a charity? What is going to be its main charitable purpose? Find this interesting


Giving Tan a good laugh for free. He's not going to give a shit

1) He stays and he does what he wants
2) He walks and says on your own and we're screwed

He has us by the bollocks currently. Its time to sit patient and wait until he puts us in a stronger position. Patience is a virtue.

8-)

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:59 am

Malky Is My God wrote:
Natman Blue wrote:
Not meant to be a negative question but Can I ask what the reasoning is behind registering the group as a charity? What is going to be its main charitable purpose? Find this interesting


Giving Tan a good laugh for free. He's not going to give a shit

1) He stays and he does what he wants
2) He walks and says on your own and we're screwed

He has us by the bollocks currently. Its time to sit patient and wait until he puts us in a stronger position. Patience is a virtue.

8-)


Tan would be a fool to walk away. It's the most inconceivable idea I've heard in ages.
How many billionaire fools are you aware of? As I don't know one.

But we would not be screwed. Fan base growing at a rapid pace, and now a premiership commodity.
Looking at what the clubs in this league will be receiving annually, how many investor wouldn't want a piece of that pie?
We're probably at our most profitable stage in our clubs history. The historic debt that has plagued us for years is almost away.


The key thing is for things to remain peaceful on both sides. :ayatollah:

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:40 am

All we want is are true colours back and dont forget the badge to there is no bigger picture in staying red at all .

We have always been blue and it didnt need changing and we want it back and for me I dont want Tan to cry and go but if thats the case then so be it thats how strongly i feel.

Tan did it to us now he has to deal with it.We didnt do anything when the season was being played so now is the time to campaign to get are proud identity back .

Tan thought he was bigger than ccfc he thought he could buy what he wanted and do what he wanted cant think of any other chairman in all 4 leagues like him .

Good luck to bluebirds unite you have my 100 % support. :ayatollah:

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:34 am

Whilst I support in theory what they're attempting to do, I have not signed the petition. I will not sign it until I see fully in writing what the overall goals are.
But like I said, big things have small beginnings. :ayatollah:

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:49 am

'registering the group as a charity' :lol:

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:10 am

its simple, the best things always are, just wear blue. If VT decides he wants to sell us then so be it, thanks, but we will survive. Shame he doesnt realise how formidable a unit we could all be next season if united. Patience. :thumbup:

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:51 am

carlccfc wrote:Link to join
https://www.facebook.com/groups/BLUEBIRDSUNITE/?fref=ts :ayatollah:

Along with 600 other City fans I attended the Bluebirds Unite meeting at the Corporation Pub this evening.

It was a productive get together and Sian Branson pointed out the aims of the group and how it is hoped the group can move forward.

The idea is simple, wear blue and retain our identity as a blue club.

This is not a 'get Tan out' group, it is a movement to keep the blue very much part of Cardiff City Football Club.

Sian spoke passionately to the packed out pub and is looking to get a meeting with Vincent Tan and club officials to discuss the issues that thousands of supporters have with the colour change.

As was said this evening, our support will welcome supporters from far and wide, including support from Malaysia but at the same time please respect our wishes and what we feel strongly about.

I can see this group getting bigger and generating a lot of support.

There is to be a committee formed and registering the group as a charity.

The group is not against modern football and I have seen the pictures of a small flag being held up but it must be stressed that the organisers of the group do not share this thought and the group does not support the message on the banner.

Annis spoke at the meeting and asked those in attendance not to boycott games but to turn up wearing blue. This is one of the most powerful statements we can show to the watching world.

I did not know what to expect from tonight's meeting but I felt positive leaving there tonight that this group has the right intentions and are not a disruptive group intent on driving out our biggest shareholder but more the case of uniting the stakeholders, the fans.


If that is the true aims of this group then you need to get the message across. I'll be totally honest and say when I first heard of Bluebirds Unite I thought it was simply a rehash of KCB and other militant pro-blue groups.

But a group which has a long term aim for returning us to blue without directly confronting VT is the way ahead. I still think we need to accept that red is around for the medium term, (that's not a preference but a nod to the reality).

That said VT won't be around forever (the proposed float is evidence of that) and that will be the opportune time for us to return to blue. Play it sensible and this will work, if it gets hi-jacked by those who want things to move quicker then it will fail.

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:18 am

aj1927 wrote:Whilst I support in theory what they're attempting to do, I have not signed the petition. I will not sign it until I see fully in writing what the overall goals are.
But like I said, big things have small beginnings. :ayatollah:


Same here I have not signed as yet for the same reason as you 1927, I read on Carl's post that the group are not against modern football, but if you know that a picture is being taken to put in the paper then why let someone with a flag saying on it "against modern football" be in the picture, at the end of the day we are in the Premiership and that is modern football, so if anybody is against it why bother going to watch Cardiff City fc next season. So as you said 1927 until I see it in writing what the overall goals are, then I might sign up, I want to get the Blue back but just want to see what else Bluebirds unite want to achieve :ayatollah:

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING/ REPORT '

Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:25 am

Again 600 out of the database of our supporters is nothing

I bet VT is laughing his head off :lol: :lol:

O for some transfer news instead of listening to this tripe all the time

Re: ' BLUEBIRDS UNITE MEETING '

Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:52 am

thehumblegringo wrote:Carl if it's to promote the clubs history etc then I'm sure all City fans will be behind it, but the danger is that some will want it to become divisive and thats where the problem lies. Even the piece in the echo of sians argument with her butcher was needless in my opinion. Many, like myself would like to see us play in blue again but dont want to bite the hand that feeds us.
If it wasn't for the rebrand Vincent Tan would be our best owner ever by an absolute country mile. He travels over from malaysia frequently, he (along with tg) saved us from liquidation, he lets malky get on with the football side of things and he has supported his vision for the club 100%.
I wish his PR with the fans was better but in the grand scheme of things I still thing he has been a massive positive for this club.
I sincerely hope that bluebirds unite will continue to be constructive in their way of going about things and will be quick to dispel any sign of antagonism which is bound rise up from 1 or 2





It would appear that the first meeting of Bluebirds Unite went very well and those who 'fronted' the meeting (Sian, Annis et al) put their points across in a positive and constructed manner. That is to their credit, as we have seen too many group meetings degenerate rapidly in the past resulting in a complete lack of credibility from that moment on. Congratulations to all those involved, including attendees

However, I completely agree with 'thehumbegringo' above, who sums it up for what is still the vast majority of Cardiff City FC supporters, i.e. that Vincent Tan has (on the whole) been a massive positive for the club and has taken us from near oblivion to the Premiership ina pretty short time

I doubt he will ever be the Sam-like 'character' that many would like (mixing with the fans, walking around the pitch and serving up sheeps testicles for lunch! :lol: ) but that doesn't take away from the positive influence he has been on the club itself and the way it is now run in an efficient and forward thinking manner

I wish Bluebirds Unite all the success in the world, so long as it is done in a constructive and considered way :ayatollah: