REFERENDUM ON BLUE OR RED.

Just a thought we live in a democratic country and with so many people for and against the rebrand it would be fair for Tan to give us the fans a fair vote with a simple yes for or no against the red kit.

This would have the only accurate answer weather us the fans want it or not .I am sure this would be easy to organise and it would be fair.

The trouble is it should of taken place in the beginning to assess the fans thoughts before any colour change took place.

I reckon if the vote came in and it was a unanimous no to the red kit Tan still wouldnt move on it .

The problem is no vote ever took place to gauge the fans views never to late .

This situation will drag on and on for years unless tan gives us a fair vote and I think as fans we deserve to be able to have a say and vote .

Before people start saying its Tans money he can do what he wants let me remind you this is a business yes but its still a football club and as a result the fans are at the forefront of the club and should be allowed to contribute on such key desicions such as changing the colour of the kit.

A referendum would be fair would it not.

What part of 'Tan is not going to turn us back to blue' do people fail to understand? Sorry but you're just continuing to set yourselves up for disappointment. Tans belief is red is lucky. He puts that before what the fans think.

If you want blue back you want Tan out because that is the only way you are getting blue back. This utopian dream of lets convince Tan or hopefully he'll change his mind is not happening.

He let us know the score in his speech. I wish more people took more notice of what he actually said. If you want blue back and want Tan out, fair enough. You are entitled to that view. If you think forcing Tan out is too extreme over colours/identity then fair enough, you are entitled to that opinion. Each should be respected for their own opinion based on what the club means to them.

There is however no option of Tan staying and us returning to blue.

The club would only let the fans have a vote if there was a possibility of change (which they wouldn't allow), and they know that the massive majority want blue back, so it would be pointless.

What part of 'Tan is not going to turn us back to blue' do people fail to understand? Sorry but you're just continuing to set yourselves up for disappointment. Tans belief is red is lucky. He puts that before what the fans think.

If you want blue back you want Tan out because that is the only way you are getting blue back. This utopian dream of lets convince Tan or hopefully he'll change his mind is not happening.

He let us know the score in his speech. I wish more people took more notice of what he actually said. If you want blue back and want Tan out, fair enough. You are entitled to that view. If you think forcing Tan out is too extreme over colours/identity then fair enough, you are entitled to that opinion. Each should be respected for their own opinion based on what the club means to them.

There is however no option of Tan staying and us returning to blue.

You are probably right mate to be fair what you have said but you never no if people continue to push the issue it just might change his mind doubtful but its worth a go and if you feel strongly about something you cant just sit back and think whats the point.

A referendum would be a fair way to gauge how many of us like or dislike the colour change and as much as i agree with your point I would never give up on something i feel so strongly for.More people are jumping on the bandwagon to get the blue back never say never mate. This is Cardiff City fc its worth a fighting for however hopeless

The club would only let the fans have a vote if there was a possibility of change (which they wouldn't allow), and they know that the massive majority want blue back, so it would be pointless.

again fair point .this will drag on and on it aint going away something will have to give and if we get numbers then Tan will have to give in in the end a referendum would be the fairest way to gauge things but he wouldn't agree to it the idea is good though

You are probably right mate to be fair what you have said but you never no if people continue to push the issue it just might change his mind doubtful but its worth a go and if you feel strongly about something you cant just sit back and think whats the point.

What I will say and I'll say this as a reluctant red;

'If you want blue back and at any cost then just be honest with yourself and say you want Tan out and fight to get him out'.

Protests, crying on social media about it, calling him a dictator - this ain't going to bother Tan. I've studied the business world as part of my degree as I want to go self employed and its a tough world and Tan is at the top end of it. This stuff is small fry to him. Affirmative action is needed if you truly believe your cause. At least have some conviction in what you want to achieve. Blue back is only achievable by forcing Tan out or Tan leaving of his own accord.

Im not going to join a Tan out cause because (1) I would value his investment over the kit colour and (2) i've got other things going on in my life etc. Im admitting that but I wont judge others for standing up and fighting for what is right. I have my views, you have yours and the guy down the road has his. Each to their own.

I do think however, the current attempts are piss in the wind attempts Tan wont even take seriously. If you want blue back then get Tan out and stand by that statement. If you want Tan to continue to invest and reluctantly accept his rebrand then do as im doing now and ride out the storm. There is no reason to keep bleating on about the issue.

The club would only let the fans have a vote if there was a possibility of change (which they wouldn't allow), and they know that the massive majority want blue back, so it would be pointless.

Correct Jon, they would never let there be a vote as they know what would happen.

" WERE CARDIFF CITY WE'LL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

Perhaps after we do that we can have a referendum on changing the colour of a can of coke to green, after all ive drunk loads of cokes so im ENTITLED to my say......

Lads, its not gonna happen under VT, roll on next season

Perhaps after we do that we can have a referendum on changing the colour of a can of coke to green, after all ive drunk loads of cokes so im ENTITLED to my say......

Now now Gavin shocked at you, Our Football Club We love and is part of our lives, a can of coke is a drink that we can take it or leave it, true?

Sadly true its not going to happen under Tan, but we can remind him and the rest of our Fans, that We wont go away.

Annis, ive just come to the conclusion that if you want to take positive action you've got to get off your arse and do it, go join BU or something similar.

Ive joined the trust and will be campaigning through them to use a blue kit every away game, a morr realistic target under VT.

fed up of the same old posts on the forum, hope we get w separate forum for rebranf stuff as has been suggested

Annis, ive just come to the conclusion that if you want to take positive action you've got to get off your arse and do it, go join BU or something similar.

Ive joined the trust and will be campaigning to them to use a blue kit every away game, a morr realistic target under VT.

fed up of the same old posts on the forum, hope we get w separate forum for rebranf stuff as has been suggested

Everyone is bored, no football to really talk about.
Gavin, Ive joined Bluebirds Unite and will be at their meeting Next Tuesday night 7pm.

Good luck with the trust, you will need it

Perhaps after we do that we can have a referendum on changing the colour of a can of coke to green, after all ive drunk loads of cokes so im ENTITLED to my say......

Lads, its not gonna happen under VT, roll on next season

So, because it's not going to happen/very unlikely, we can't talk about it?

People's opinions! How is life in North Korea?



If people want to fight for something that they believe in, let them! If you think it's a waste of time, so be it. Who are you to say otherwise?!

Where have stated they cant talk about it?

All im giving is my opinion, and that is 'talk is cheap'

Where have stated they cant talk about it?

All im giving is my opinion, and that is 'talk is cheap'

Which is why there has been action.

:golf claps:

Where have stated they cant talk about it?

All im giving is my opinion, and that is 'talk is cheap'

Gavin, I cant stand just talk thats why I left the trust.
I believe in action, so come on board BLUEBIRDS UNITE

Where have stated they cant talk about it?

All im giving is my opinion, and that is 'talk is cheap'

Gavin, I cant stand just talk thats why I left the trust.
I believe in action, so come on board BLUEBIRDS UNITE

Annis, see my latest sticky, lets take action ourselves.

You are probably right mate to be fair what you have said but you never no if people continue to push the issue it just might change his mind doubtful but its worth a go and if you feel strongly about something you cant just sit back and think whats the point.

What I will say and I'll say this as a reluctant red;

'If you want blue back and at any cost then just be honest with yourself and say you want Tan out and fight to get him out'.

Protests, crying on social media about it, calling him a dictator - this ain't going to bother Tan. I've studied the business world as part of my degree as I want to go self employed and its a tough world and Tan is at the top end of it. This stuff is small fry to him. Affirmative action is needed if you truly believe your cause. At least have some conviction in what you want to achieve. Blue back is only achievable by forcing Tan out or Tan leaving of his own accord.

Im not going to join a Tan out cause because (1) I would value his investment over the kit colour and (2) i've got other things going on in my life etc. Im admitting that but I wont judge others for standing up and fighting for what is right. I have my views, you have yours and the guy down the road has his. Each to their own.

I do think however, the current attempts are piss in the wind attempts Tan wont even take seriously. If you want blue back then get Tan out and stand by that statement. If you want Tan to continue to invest and reluctantly accept his rebrand then do as im doing now and ride out the storm. There is no reason to keep bleating on about the issue.

Totally agree with you MIMG.

While Tan is in charge we will always have a red home kit.

I would prefer if people were campaigning to play in Blue away, or to get a better badge, or get a red and blue home kit. However campaigning to play in Blue at home is pissing in the wind and dividing Cardiff City fans.

Totally agree with you MIMG.

While Tan is in charge we will always have a red home kit.

I would prefer if people were campaigning to play in Blue away, or to get a better badge, or get a red and blue home kit. However campaigning to play in Blue at home is pissing in the wind and dividing Cardiff City fans.

100% agree. Goals must be attainable.

Totally agree with you MIMG.

While Tan is in charge we will always have a red home kit.

I would prefer if people were campaigning to play in Blue away, or to get a better badge, or get a red and blue home kit. However campaigning to play in Blue at home is pissing in the wind and dividing Cardiff City fans.

100% agree. Goals must be attainable.

so sit back and be defeated because Tan aint going to change it .dont agree keep plugging away even if its in vain because if we stop Tan will think all is well he needs reminding its not and if thats all its doing good.

I will never give up on my club i never have and never will no matter how pointless it becomes.

Just a thought we live in a democratic country and with so many people for and against the rebrand it would be fair for Tan to give us the fans a fair vote with a simple yes for or no against the red kit.

This would have the only accurate answer weather us the fans want it or not .I am sure this would be easy to organise and it would be fair.

The trouble is it should of taken place in the beginning to assess the fans thoughts before any colour change took place.

I reckon if the vote came in and it was a unanimous no to the red kit Tan still wouldnt move on it .

The problem is no vote ever took place to gauge the fans views never to late .

This situation will drag on and on for years unless tan gives us a fair vote and I think as fans we deserve to be able to have a say and vote .

Before people start saying its Tans money he can do what he wants let me remind you this is a business yes but its still a football club and as a result the fans are at the forefront of the club and should be allowed to contribute on such key desicions such as changing the colour of the kit.

A referendum would be fair would it not.

I'll tell you what MIGHT get it changed and that is YOU to put your hands deep into your substantial pockets and hand over around £80m+ to Vincent Tan

If you are a couple of quid short, I am sure your fellow 'blue at any cost' mates will 'chip' in

Just a thought we live in a democratic country and with so many people for and against the rebrand it would be fair for Tan to give us the fans a fair vote with a simple yes for or no against the red kit.

This would have the only accurate answer weather us the fans want it or not .I am sure this would be easy to organise and it would be fair.

The trouble is it should of taken place in the beginning to assess the fans thoughts before any colour change took place.

I reckon if the vote came in and it was a unanimous no to the red kit Tan still wouldnt move on it .

The problem is no vote ever took place to gauge the fans views never to late .

This situation will drag on and on for years unless tan gives us a fair vote and I think as fans we deserve to be able to have a say and vote .

Before people start saying its Tans money he can do what he wants let me remind you this is a business yes but its still a football club and as a result the fans are at the forefront of the club and should be allowed to contribute on such key desicions such as changing the colour of the kit.

A referendum would be fair would it not.

I'll tell you what MIGHT get it changed and that is YOU to put your hands deep into your substantial pockets and hand over around £80m+ to Vincent Tan

If you are a couple of quid short, I am sure your fellow 'blue at any cost' mates will 'chip' in

what a cock

Totally agree with you MIMG.

While Tan is in charge we will always have a red home kit.

I would prefer if people were campaigning to play in Blue away, or to get a better badge, or get a red and blue home kit. However campaigning to play in Blue at home is pissing in the wind and dividing Cardiff City fans.

100% agree. Goals must be attainable.

Why don't you pair start a group up to try and achieve that then, I'm sure you would have massive support.