Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Barcelo
Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:29 pm
By Paul Abbandonato
Craig Bellamy: " Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea - more like Barcelona "
3rd Jun 2013
In exclusive extracts from his autobiography, GoodFella, Bellamy talks about the 2012-13 campaign and how he believes the Bluebirds can ‘do a Barcelona’ by becoming a huge football force... with a unique Welsh identity
Craig Bellamy could not have scripted a better finish to his book as Cardiff City won promotion
My mind was in turmoil at the start of the 2012-13 season. I was beginning to wonder whether I even wanted to play football any more. I asked Malky Mackay if I could have some time off.
I told him I needed to adjust to everything that was going on. I couldn’t lead the team when I wasn’t leading myself.
I didn’t know when I was going to come back. I didn’t know if I wanted to come back. The club was brilliant. Vincent Tan, the owner, and the chairman, Dato Chan Tien Ghee, told me to take the time I needed.
I took a couple of weeks off. I played a lot of golf. I got bored. Rumours started to spread that I had retired. Then I thought ‘Stuff this, I’m a footballer’. And I went back to work.
There was a huge change from when I had been at Cardiff under Dave Jones. I knew I had made a mistake within a week of signing the last time. But this time, things were different.
Discipline was better. Malky was hard line. We each worked. There were no exceptions, no prima donnas, no one excused when it came to tracking back.
We were a team. We were in it together and after they had been so understanding about what I was going through, I thought I owed it to the group of players to become a valuable member of the team.
The players at Cardiff pulled me through it. There was no resentment from them. There was no thought I was shirking my responsibilities, which there easily could have been.
The manager was open with the rest of the players about what I was going through and they were brilliant with me about it. I was invited out to dinner with them. I was given the encouragement and the space I needed.
This was a group I wanted to be a part of. I liked their attitude. No one slagged each other off. There was no bitchiness. The manager was brilliant I began to realise I’d never been involved in more of a team than I was here.
Even those on the bench were willing the team on … and that’s not always the case in football, believe me.
The Championship is the hardest league in football. The pitches, the referees, the unpredictability; it is difficult for every single team. In that situation, you have to work and work and work. Our Prozone stats showed we worked harder than anyone.
When people looked at Cardiff and the players we had, they were surprised that we were in the mix for promotion. Because you look at us and you don’t see stars. You see grafters.
Malky Mackay was given the option to spend money. In fact, when the January transfer window came around, the club was urging him to spend.
He didn’t want to. He had spent the best part of two years building a team that had got where it was because of hard work and he was very wary of upsetting the team spirit by bringing in someone who might not share the same mindset.
Before every single game, the manager had a number of team talks and the preparation was fantastic. The last thing he did before we walked out onto the pitch was put up a sign on the board. ‘Individuals win games, team-work and intelligence wins Championships’, it said. It was similar to something Michael Jordan once said and the manager left it on the board every time we went out.
And that was us. That was Cardiff City. I never thought of myself as an individual during last season. I thought of myself as someone who was giving everything for the team.
We got where we got through sheer hard work and doggedness. If we weren’t going to win, the opposition was going to have to play damn well to beat us.
Even if I hadn’t been involved, even if I’d been playing for Liverpool or Newcastle or Man City, I would have been delighted for Cardiff. But to be a part of it, to be a player in the team that made history, to be a player in the side that got promoted to the Premier League, to be a player that brought so much joy to the people of my city, well, I was just incredibly grateful that I was involved.
I only scored four goals. But I had played well and enjoyed myself. I learned a lot from that and from the players around me. That’s part of the reason why I regard being promoted with Cardiff as my proudest moment in the game.
I’ve never had a buzz like it. When you win something at Liverpool, it is great for you personally but you are always conscious that the club has won about 50 trophies. It is another trophy for the club, another trophy for the fans. Everyone’s happy but, let’s be honest, they have seen bigger days.
To be able to share that promotion with everyone was different because it tapped into my background and my history.
Sometimes, it’s hard to believe it’s been more than 50 years since Cardiff were in the top flight. Where’s this club been? To clear that final hurdle filled me with a huge sense of achievement.
I intend to stick around, too. I hope this is just the beginning for Cardiff. I hope that we can do something different with what we’ve achieved.
I hope we can capitalise on the fact that our Welshness can give us an advantage.
We are a city of 350,000 people but it isn’t just the city. It’s the valleys as well. You tot that up and we are a club of a million people round this region who are connected with the club and adore Cardiff.
A lot of those people probably followed other clubs like I followed Liverpool. It was a lot more fashionable for a youngster to do that 20 or 30 years ago.
But today, that can change. we can build on our regional identity in the way Athletic Bilbao have placed themselves at the centre of Basque culture and Barcelona have become a focus for Catalunya.
This is our identity. It’s strong. It’s separate. This is who we are. Playing for this club is first and foremost. So many who have come from this region have never played for Cardiff.
Gareth Bale’s never played for Cardiff. Ryan Giggs has never played for Cardiff. We have had players like Aaron Ramsey who have left too young.
I have only played for the club towards the end of my career. I am the only person from Cardiff who played for the team last season. We have to change that. We have to make the most of our area and our identity.
We can produce the players but we have to be ‘more than a club’, as Barcelona say. We have to be about a region and an idea. You have to have the idea that playing for Cardiff is everything.
We could control Merthyr, Rhondda, Caerphilly. We could have them in lockdown. That’s what makes us unique. The main core of the valleys is with us.
We have to get to the point quickly where players won’t want to go anywhere else if they’re from round here and we won’t permit them to go. That is how we want to breed the football club.
We want the top young players and preferably we want them to be Welsh. They don’t go elsewhere and they are the future of the club.
I know that more and more clubs want to follow this route but we have got the kind of separateness that gives us an advantage.
We have got the fan-base, too. When you go and play for Wales, most of the fans are Cardiff fans. Swansea have done brilliantly and I have always been vocal about how much respect I have for them, but we are a bigger club by miles.
What we have achieved will hit home when we are building towards the first game of the 2013-14 season. The fixture list comes out, you look to see when the big clubs are coming to town. You go into the changing room and you see those shirts hanging on your pegs with the Premier League logo on them, the Nike balls instead of the Mitre ones we have in the Championship.
If we do it right, we have the manager to take us forward to the next level, a manager who believes in the vast potential of this club. There is no limit to where we can go.
I want to see Cardiff become a power in the game. I don’t know when my career is going to end. It could end me. But I am not looking to move on. Far from it.
Craig Bellamy: " Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea - more like Barcelona "
3rd Jun 2013
In exclusive extracts from his autobiography, GoodFella, Bellamy talks about the 2012-13 campaign and how he believes the Bluebirds can ‘do a Barcelona’ by becoming a huge football force... with a unique Welsh identity
Craig Bellamy could not have scripted a better finish to his book as Cardiff City won promotion
My mind was in turmoil at the start of the 2012-13 season. I was beginning to wonder whether I even wanted to play football any more. I asked Malky Mackay if I could have some time off.
I told him I needed to adjust to everything that was going on. I couldn’t lead the team when I wasn’t leading myself.
I didn’t know when I was going to come back. I didn’t know if I wanted to come back. The club was brilliant. Vincent Tan, the owner, and the chairman, Dato Chan Tien Ghee, told me to take the time I needed.
I took a couple of weeks off. I played a lot of golf. I got bored. Rumours started to spread that I had retired. Then I thought ‘Stuff this, I’m a footballer’. And I went back to work.
There was a huge change from when I had been at Cardiff under Dave Jones. I knew I had made a mistake within a week of signing the last time. But this time, things were different.
Discipline was better. Malky was hard line. We each worked. There were no exceptions, no prima donnas, no one excused when it came to tracking back.
We were a team. We were in it together and after they had been so understanding about what I was going through, I thought I owed it to the group of players to become a valuable member of the team.
The players at Cardiff pulled me through it. There was no resentment from them. There was no thought I was shirking my responsibilities, which there easily could have been.
The manager was open with the rest of the players about what I was going through and they were brilliant with me about it. I was invited out to dinner with them. I was given the encouragement and the space I needed.
This was a group I wanted to be a part of. I liked their attitude. No one slagged each other off. There was no bitchiness. The manager was brilliant I began to realise I’d never been involved in more of a team than I was here.
Even those on the bench were willing the team on … and that’s not always the case in football, believe me.
The Championship is the hardest league in football. The pitches, the referees, the unpredictability; it is difficult for every single team. In that situation, you have to work and work and work. Our Prozone stats showed we worked harder than anyone.
When people looked at Cardiff and the players we had, they were surprised that we were in the mix for promotion. Because you look at us and you don’t see stars. You see grafters.
Malky Mackay was given the option to spend money. In fact, when the January transfer window came around, the club was urging him to spend.
He didn’t want to. He had spent the best part of two years building a team that had got where it was because of hard work and he was very wary of upsetting the team spirit by bringing in someone who might not share the same mindset.
Before every single game, the manager had a number of team talks and the preparation was fantastic. The last thing he did before we walked out onto the pitch was put up a sign on the board. ‘Individuals win games, team-work and intelligence wins Championships’, it said. It was similar to something Michael Jordan once said and the manager left it on the board every time we went out.
And that was us. That was Cardiff City. I never thought of myself as an individual during last season. I thought of myself as someone who was giving everything for the team.
We got where we got through sheer hard work and doggedness. If we weren’t going to win, the opposition was going to have to play damn well to beat us.
Even if I hadn’t been involved, even if I’d been playing for Liverpool or Newcastle or Man City, I would have been delighted for Cardiff. But to be a part of it, to be a player in the team that made history, to be a player in the side that got promoted to the Premier League, to be a player that brought so much joy to the people of my city, well, I was just incredibly grateful that I was involved.
I only scored four goals. But I had played well and enjoyed myself. I learned a lot from that and from the players around me. That’s part of the reason why I regard being promoted with Cardiff as my proudest moment in the game.
I’ve never had a buzz like it. When you win something at Liverpool, it is great for you personally but you are always conscious that the club has won about 50 trophies. It is another trophy for the club, another trophy for the fans. Everyone’s happy but, let’s be honest, they have seen bigger days.
To be able to share that promotion with everyone was different because it tapped into my background and my history.
Sometimes, it’s hard to believe it’s been more than 50 years since Cardiff were in the top flight. Where’s this club been? To clear that final hurdle filled me with a huge sense of achievement.
I intend to stick around, too. I hope this is just the beginning for Cardiff. I hope that we can do something different with what we’ve achieved.
I hope we can capitalise on the fact that our Welshness can give us an advantage.
We are a city of 350,000 people but it isn’t just the city. It’s the valleys as well. You tot that up and we are a club of a million people round this region who are connected with the club and adore Cardiff.
A lot of those people probably followed other clubs like I followed Liverpool. It was a lot more fashionable for a youngster to do that 20 or 30 years ago.
But today, that can change. we can build on our regional identity in the way Athletic Bilbao have placed themselves at the centre of Basque culture and Barcelona have become a focus for Catalunya.
This is our identity. It’s strong. It’s separate. This is who we are. Playing for this club is first and foremost. So many who have come from this region have never played for Cardiff.
Gareth Bale’s never played for Cardiff. Ryan Giggs has never played for Cardiff. We have had players like Aaron Ramsey who have left too young.
I have only played for the club towards the end of my career. I am the only person from Cardiff who played for the team last season. We have to change that. We have to make the most of our area and our identity.
We can produce the players but we have to be ‘more than a club’, as Barcelona say. We have to be about a region and an idea. You have to have the idea that playing for Cardiff is everything.
We could control Merthyr, Rhondda, Caerphilly. We could have them in lockdown. That’s what makes us unique. The main core of the valleys is with us.
We have to get to the point quickly where players won’t want to go anywhere else if they’re from round here and we won’t permit them to go. That is how we want to breed the football club.
We want the top young players and preferably we want them to be Welsh. They don’t go elsewhere and they are the future of the club.
I know that more and more clubs want to follow this route but we have got the kind of separateness that gives us an advantage.
We have got the fan-base, too. When you go and play for Wales, most of the fans are Cardiff fans. Swansea have done brilliantly and I have always been vocal about how much respect I have for them, but we are a bigger club by miles.
What we have achieved will hit home when we are building towards the first game of the 2013-14 season. The fixture list comes out, you look to see when the big clubs are coming to town. You go into the changing room and you see those shirts hanging on your pegs with the Premier League logo on them, the Nike balls instead of the Mitre ones we have in the Championship.
If we do it right, we have the manager to take us forward to the next level, a manager who believes in the vast potential of this club. There is no limit to where we can go.
I want to see Cardiff become a power in the game. I don’t know when my career is going to end. It could end me. But I am not looking to move on. Far from it.
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:58 am
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:05 am
Top class love bellamys vision, be amazing if we can achieve it someday in the future
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:52 am
'There was a huge change from when I had been at Cardiff under Dave Jones. I knew I had made a mistake within a week of signing the last time. But this time, things were different.'
Last time you could tell he was frustrated at times. At times he was class and at other times although he put a lot of energy into his performances you could tell something was annoying him but he didn't want to say it. Would not be surprised if it was the other ego's at the club and lack of control Jones had over them.
As much as he has had a bad rep in the press, when it comes to football Bellamy is the personification of professional and egos and players going out on the lash and not putting in effort then would have annoyed the crap out of him. The current players we have who go out for a drink more than the others are funnily enough the players who are most energetic.
Maybe they're just drinking the right stuff. Gunnarsson, Bellamy, Hudson, etc. love a drink but are 100% committed to the cause. What a difference from the tools we had before like Samuel who would go on the slash then mentally turn up to the game 20 minutes late.
This was the day I lost all faith in Jones. He clearly had no control or the respect of the dressing room.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... efeat.html
So happy to have our current manager and team who work as a unit.
Last time you could tell he was frustrated at times. At times he was class and at other times although he put a lot of energy into his performances you could tell something was annoying him but he didn't want to say it. Would not be surprised if it was the other ego's at the club and lack of control Jones had over them.
As much as he has had a bad rep in the press, when it comes to football Bellamy is the personification of professional and egos and players going out on the lash and not putting in effort then would have annoyed the crap out of him. The current players we have who go out for a drink more than the others are funnily enough the players who are most energetic.
Maybe they're just drinking the right stuff. Gunnarsson, Bellamy, Hudson, etc. love a drink but are 100% committed to the cause. What a difference from the tools we had before like Samuel who would go on the slash then mentally turn up to the game 20 minutes late.
This was the day I lost all faith in Jones. He clearly had no control or the respect of the dressing room.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... efeat.html
So happy to have our current manager and team who work as a unit.
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:08 am
The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:'There was a huge change from when I had been at Cardiff under Dave Jones. I knew I had made a mistake within a week of signing the last time. But this time, things were different.'
Last time you could tell he was frustrated at times. At times he was class and at other times although he put a lot of energy into his performances you could tell something was annoying him but he didn't want to say it. Would not be surprised if it was the other ego's at the club and lack of control Jones had over them.
As much as he has had a bad rep in the press, when it comes to football Bellamy is the personification of professional and egos and players going out on the lash and not putting in effort then would have annoyed the crap out of him. The current players we have who go out for a drink more than the others are funnily enough the players who are most energetic.
Maybe they're just drinking the right stuff. Gunnarsson, Bellamy, Hudson, etc. love a drink but are 100% committed to the cause. What a difference from the tools we had before like Samuel who would go on the slash then mentally turn up to the game 20 minutes late.
This was the day I lost all faith in Jones. He clearly had no control or the respect of the dressing room.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... efeat.html
So happy to have our current manager and team who work as a unit.
Seems a fair comment from Rise of the Red Dragon
I could see the frustration in Craig last time he was here; and he appeared to take it all out on that poor little football near the end of the game at The Liberty Stadium
He was lucky the net got in the way to stop it doing someone a nasty injury behind the goal!
AND WHAT A GOAL IT WAS!!
Has to be one of the best moments I have ever had as a City supporter and made Craig Bellamy a City legend from that moment on
PS: Can't say I really noticed his frustrations that season (other than the occasion he barked back at the knob in the Ninian Stand who shouted "It's not a practice match, Craig") but seems like the book is going to be enlightening. Looking forward to reading it
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:15 am
Excellent insight to Craig's feelings for the Bluebirds, his two spells with them, and the difference between success and failure.
Delighted to see that he intends to stick around, and contribute to the future of our club, from a players and fans point of view I don't think anybody has their finger on the pulse of the club more than Craig, that being the case, is it possible that you could find the time to write a post on this board, or address the meeting tomorrow night, to give your views on the relationship between the club and supporters, I for one find it difficult to understand the fact that some people cannot put their views without being aggressive and insulting to people at the club and other posters, in saying that I find some of the extreme views expressed on here don't represent the majority view I don't find it outside when I go for a pint, when talking to mates or family, I get concerned that the damaging effect it has on the club for next season.
Most people don't care, they only want success for the club, yes they have a view, but worrying about whether we are in blue or the colour of the shorts, I don't think so.
This is a plea from the heart, from somebody that's been through thick and thin with the club, so Craig if you could find the time to take out of your busy schedule. Perhaps you could give us a truer perspective on our club.
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:57 am
Going to be very interesting to read about his first stint at Cardiff.
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:02 am
Nice read.
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 10:06 am
And then in the real world................
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:02 pm
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:12 pm
"We could control Merthyr, Rhondda, Caerphilly. We could have them in lockdown. That’s what makes us unique. The main core of the valleys is with us."
Likke his passion, in the space of an interview,He's gone from footballer to commander of the 3rd riech
If the interviewer had left the tape running, He could have had us reclaiming disputed land on the English border
Likke his passion, in the space of an interview,He's gone from footballer to commander of the 3rd riech
If the interviewer had left the tape running, He could have had us reclaiming disputed land on the English border
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:11 pm
Bellamy's book may end up in the fiction section
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:26 pm
^ who's the scouse fan ^
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:50 pm
The voice of reason
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:34 pm
Roguetrooper wrote:And then in the real world................
What's inaccurate with what he has said there?
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:33 pm
If Cardiff are supposedly so much bigger than Swansea then it makes it more embarassing that Swansea are so much better. Wolves, Birmingham, Notts Forest etc are 'bigger clubs' than either Swansea or Cardiff but you wouldn't wanna be in their position.
Cardiff need to concentrate on winning in the PL and staying up first. it's gonna be a long season.
Cardiff need to concentrate on winning in the PL and staying up first. it's gonna be a long season.
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:45 pm
Bluebird_87 wrote:Roguetrooper wrote:And then in the real world................
What's inaccurate with what he has said there?
Thats the funny part, if you dont see it then you have your red tinted specs on.
I dont think either club is bigger than the other, we have been more successful recently but, as far as the big picture and worldwide appeal goes, shall we wait and see how this season goes first? You lot havent kicked a ball in the PL yet
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:02 pm
Roguetrooper wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:Roguetrooper wrote:And then in the real world................
What's inaccurate with what he has said there?
Thats the funny part, if you dont see it then you have your red tinted specs on.
I dont think either club is bigger than the other, we have been more successful recently but, as far as the big picture and worldwide appeal goes, shall we wait and see how this season goes first? You lot havent kicked a ball in the PL yet
Yes you have been successful lately. He quite clearly states that. I think we both know what he's getting at. Potentially is the key word. He hasn't mentioned word wide appeal, he has just spoke about local catchment areas which are correct.
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:04 pm
Roguetrooper wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:Roguetrooper wrote:And then in the real world................
What's inaccurate with what he has said there?
Thats the funny part, if you dont see it then you have your red tinted specs on.
I dont think either club is bigger than the other, we have been more successful recently but, as far as the big picture and worldwide appeal goes, shall we wait and see how this season goes first? You lot havent kicked a ball in the PL yet
Still a bigger club, like we are a bigger club than Blackpool who also was in the premier league..... Your point being?
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:31 pm
Merlin wrote:Roguetrooper wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:Roguetrooper wrote:And then in the real world................
What's inaccurate with what he has said there?
Thats the funny part, if you dont see it then you have your red tinted specs on.
I dont think either club is bigger than the other, we have been more successful recently but, as far as the big picture and worldwide appeal goes, shall we wait and see how this season goes first? You lot havent kicked a ball in the PL yet
Still a bigger club, like we are a bigger club than Blackpool who also was in the premier league..... Your point being?
He hasn't got a point. 200 different usernames and he's never had a point
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:31 pm
Roguetrooper wrote:Bluebird_87 wrote:Roguetrooper wrote:And then in the real world................
What's inaccurate with what he has said there?
Thats the funny part, if you dont see it then you have your red tinted specs on.
I dont think either club is bigger than the other, we have been more successful recently but, as far as the big picture and worldwide appeal goes, shall we wait and see how this season goes first? You lot havent kicked a ball in the PL yet
Jacks were noticable by there absense wen Bellamy was saying how good they been in the premier. but now hes speaking
his mind and hes wrong? nope he is just an honest
bloke tells it as he sees it and if u ask 1000 fans from random premier team who the bigest club in wales are they wud
probably 90% say cardiff city. and theyd be right.
cardiff got a metropolitan area of 1,097,000. thats comuter distance from the city people who are classed as the
pulling area of the club. its the 11th bigest in britain but what cardiff has over the top ten is ONE CLUB. NO COMPETITION.
Swansea also only got one club but a metropolitan area of only 462,000 and historicaly cardiff has drawn fans from as far
afield as carmarthen neath port talbot. thats wat bellamy means and we all know hes bang on the money
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:34 pm
To any Swansea fans even trying to gain something from this.
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:12 pm
Ha ha, the jacks think we're deluded and up ourselves and get tshirts printed like that. They're the deluded cunts! 
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:22 pm
We are much bigger half the fans they got now are the sons of glory hunters from their short lived stint in the old first div.
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:24 pm
If you lot say so, I recall QPR fans goong on about their potential last season. Its a hard league and if you dont compete it can be cruel. Ambition is one thing, believing you have the right to be there is another. I'd be interested to know 5 clubs in next seasons premier league that cardiff fans would consider they have more potential than. (I accept that you think we are one of them, but you only have to look at the clubs thst escaped relegation to realise that there are some serious clubs there)
Any takers to put your head above the parapit and name 5?
Any takers to put your head above the parapit and name 5?
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:37 pm
Roguetrooper wrote:If you lot say so, I recall QPR fans goong on about their potential last season. Its a hard league and if you dont compete it can be cruel. Ambition is one thing, believing you have the right to be there is another. I'd be interested to know 5 clubs in next seasons premier league that cardiff fans would consider they have more potential than. (I accept that you think we are one of them, but you only have to look at the clubs thst escaped relegation to realise that there are some serious clubs there)
Any takers to put your head above the parapit and name 5?
It's a hard league? You don't say
Five teams we're potentially bigger and better than? I'll give you six without even thinking about it
Norwich
Southampton
Hull
Swansea
Crystal Palace
Stoke
That question was too easy
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:52 pm
Take all the traditional big teams out, and I think we could be the biggest provincial team apart from Newcastle and Sunderland, mind you that doesn't leave many.
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:12 pm
Not having Southampton. Bitgger population than Cardiff and historically a much more successfulteam. Norwich ditto. I live in East anglia.
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:16 pm
CityGent wrote:Roguetrooper wrote:If you lot say so, I recall QPR fans goong on about their potential last season. Its a hard league and if you dont compete it can be cruel. Ambition is one thing, believing you have the right to be there is another. I'd be interested to know 5 clubs in next seasons premier league that cardiff fans would consider they have more potential than. (I accept that you think we are one of them, but you only have to look at the clubs thst escaped relegation to realise that there are some serious clubs there)
Any takers to put your head above the parapit and name 5?
It's a hard league? You don't say
Five teams we're potentially bigger and better than? I'll give you six without even thinking about it
Norwich
Southampton
Hull
Swansea
Crystal Palace
Stoke
That question was too easy
Haha couldn't have put it better myself. Bellamy said about potential, catchment area. He said 'he wants Cardiff to be a force' not we are, you are misreading the post.
Re: Cardiff City are miles bigger than Swansea,more like Bar
Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:16 pm
I'd put you on a par with hull