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CARL CURTIS " NOT TRUE "

Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:15 am

The club feel that by doing so they were listening to the fans, not true!



Carl Curtis: " Cardiff City kit debacle leaves fans feeling blue all over again "

Link
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... it-4037402?

:ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:38 am

IS IT TO LATE THEN? .... I SHOULD IMAGINE BLUE SHORTS AND SOCKS AND TAN WOULD EVEN SAVE MONEY ON NEW SEATS AND KEEP THOUSANDS OF FANS HAPPY!

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:39 am

AHERNE wrote:IS IT TO LATE THEN? .... I SHOULD IMAGINE BLUE SHORTS AND SOCKS AND TAN WOULD EVEN SAVE MONEY ON NEW SEATS AND KEEP THOUSANDS OF FANS HAPPY!

I honestly think that blue shorts would have been an olive branch and a step in the right direction.

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:48 am

Tan has missed a golden opportunity to offer the olive branch yet again ! His contempt for all things Cardiff City & all things Welsh is tangible ! He is a hard -nosed & successful businessman & sadly I do not feel compromise is in his nature or vocabulary ! He solely , is responsible for the turmoil we find ourselves in once again ! Its high time we made a stand for what we believe in !

Re: CARL CURTIS " AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED "

Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:51 am

it cant be to late mun .... this makes perfect sense! .... id be happy with that colour for good then!

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:30 pm

Coco wrote:Tan has missed a golden opportunity to offer the olive branch yet again ! His contempt for all things Cardiff City & all things Welsh is tangible ! He is a hard -nosed & successful businessman & sadly I do not feel compromise is in his nature or vocabulary ! He solely , is responsible for the turmoil we find ourselves in once again ! Its high time we made a stand for what we believe in !




Contempt?? :? :o

What about the contempt you and others are showing him after he ploughed £100m to clear historical (and traditional :lol: ) debt and took us to The Premier League :oops:

Seems to me that you lack far more words than 'compromise' and they appear to include words such as 'appreciation, gratitude, understanding (of our position before he came in) and flexibility ;)

You might argue in return that he (VT) lacks similar wording too but I would respond to that by simply asking "What would you genuinely do if you ploughed that money in and believed you could benefit financially in the money markets by being seen in a colour that (and it may be alien to us) is deemed 'lucky' and therefore 'marketable'? :?:

One or two on here appear to believe I am anti-blue. That is NOT the case. However, I am a realist and I can see where Tan is coming from even if I don't particularly want it to happen. It is called 'progression' and it is something OUR club has needed for many years. To my mind, if the price of progress is a change of shirt colour in order to gain from foreign investment then that, I admit, is fine by me

I would, however, fully support either of both the following:

1: Blue shorts (and maybe piping on the shirt) plus

2: A return of the Bluebird as a mainstay of the badge

Either (or preferably both) of these would be a VERY GOOD compromise from Tan and would show he is interested in what fans want whilst keeping his Far Eastern (red) plans intact ;)

But what I cannot support is a disgruntled group of maverick fans that don't have the 'future' interests of Cardiff City FC at heart and appear intent on alienating the very person (like him or loathe him) that has delivered on the dream; albeit in a slightly uncomfortable way ;) :ayatollah:

Re: CARL CURTIS " AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED "

Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:38 pm

Good article Carl to be fair. You are right and I like the way you say that we should move forward with the red to be successfull but come to a compromise with the blue too to keep the tradition and keep the fans happy. Hopefully next season we will get some blue back and a tidy badge who knows :thumbup1:

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:45 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
Coco wrote:Tan has missed a golden opportunity to offer the olive branch yet again ! His contempt for all things Cardiff City & all things Welsh is tangible ! He is a hard -nosed & successful businessman & sadly I do not feel compromise is in his nature or vocabulary ! He solely , is responsible for the turmoil we find ourselves in once again ! Its high time we made a stand for what we believe in !




Contempt?? :? :o

What about the contempt you and others are showing him after he ploughed £100m to clear historical (and traditional :lol: ) debt and took us to The Premier League :oops:

Seems to me that you lack far more words than 'compromise' and they appear to include words such as 'appreciation, gratitude, understanding (of our position before he came in) and flexibility ;)

You might argue in return that he (VT) lacks similar wording too but I would respond to that by simply asking "What would you genuinely do if you ploughed that money in and believed you could benefit financially in the money markets by being seen in a colour that (and it may be alien to us) is deemed 'lucky' and therefore 'marketable'? :?:

One or two on here appear to believe I am anti-blue. That is NOT the case. However, I am a realist and I can see where Tan is coming from even if I don't particularly want it to happen. It is called 'progression' and it is something OUR club has needed for many years. To my mind, if the price of progress is a change of shirt colour in order to gain from foreign investment then that, I admit, is fine by me

I would, however, fully support either of both the following:

1: Blue shorts (and maybe piping on the shirt) plus

2: A return of the Bluebird as a mainstay of the badge

Either (or preferably both) of these would be a VERY GOOD compromise from Tan and would show he is interested in what fans want whilst keeping his Far Eastern (red) plans intact ;)

But what I cannot support is a disgruntled group of maverick fans that don't have the 'future' interests of Cardiff City FC at heart and appear intent on alienating the very person (like him or loathe him) that has delivered on the dream; albeit in a slightly uncomfortable way ;) :ayatollah:


so if tan came in and give yr black and white spaniel a life saving operation you could nt a ford and you were
massivley grateful would u still feel the same if he then said i wanna give him floppy ears and color him dark
brown would you be an ungrateful c**t if you said 'not happy'

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:47 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
Coco wrote:Tan has missed a golden opportunity to offer the olive branch yet again ! His contempt for all things Cardiff City & all things Welsh is tangible ! He is a hard -nosed & successful businessman & sadly I do not feel compromise is in his nature or vocabulary ! He solely , is responsible for the turmoil we find ourselves in once again ! Its high time we made a stand for what we believe in !




Contempt?? :? :o

What about the contempt you and others are showing him after he ploughed £100m to clear historical (and traditional :lol: ) debt and took us to The Premier League :oops:

Seems to me that you lack far more words than 'compromise' and they appear to include words such as 'appreciation, gratitude, understanding (of our position before he came in) and flexibility ;)

You might argue in return that he (VT) lacks similar wording too but I would respond to that by simply asking "What would you genuinely do if you ploughed that money in and believed you could benefit financially in the money markets by being seen in a colour that (and it may be alien to us) is deemed 'lucky' and therefore 'marketable'? :?:

One or two on here appear to believe I am anti-blue. That is NOT the case. However, I am a realist and I can see where Tan is coming from even if I don't particularly want it to happen. It is called 'progression' and it is something OUR club has needed for many years. To my mind, if the price of progress is a change of shirt colour in order to gain from foreign investment then that, I admit, is fine by me

I would, however, fully support either of both the following:

1: Blue shorts (and maybe piping on the shirt) plus

2: A return of the Bluebird as a mainstay of the badge

Either (or preferably both) of these would be a VERY GOOD compromise from Tan and would show he is interested in what fans want whilst keeping his Far Eastern (red) plans intact ;)

But what I cannot support is a disgruntled group of maverick fans that don't have the 'future' interests of Cardiff City FC at heart and appear intent on alienating the very person (like him or loathe him) that has delivered on the dream; albeit in a slightly uncomfortable way ;) :ayatollah:


Has he turned all of his debt and all of his accrued interest to equity then ? . I missed that one

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:05 pm

bluelikeyou wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
Coco wrote:Tan has missed a golden opportunity to offer the olive branch yet again ! His contempt for all things Cardiff City & all things Welsh is tangible ! He is a hard -nosed & successful businessman & sadly I do not feel compromise is in his nature or vocabulary ! He solely , is responsible for the turmoil we find ourselves in once again ! Its high time we made a stand for what we believe in !




Contempt?? :? :o

What about the contempt you and others are showing him after he ploughed £100m to clear historical (and traditional :lol: ) debt and took us to The Premier League :oops:

Seems to me that you lack far more words than 'compromise' and they appear to include words such as 'appreciation, gratitude, understanding (of our position before he came in) and flexibility ;)

You might argue in return that he (VT) lacks similar wording too but I would respond to that by simply asking "What would you genuinely do if you ploughed that money in and believed you could benefit financially in the money markets by being seen in a colour that (and it may be alien to us) is deemed 'lucky' and therefore 'marketable'? :?:

One or two on here appear to believe I am anti-blue. That is NOT the case. However, I am a realist and I can see where Tan is coming from even if I don't particularly want it to happen. It is called 'progression' and it is something OUR club has needed for many years. To my mind, if the price of progress is a change of shirt colour in order to gain from foreign investment then that, I admit, is fine by me

I would, however, fully support either of both the following:

1: Blue shorts (and maybe piping on the shirt) plus

2: A return of the Bluebird as a mainstay of the badge

Either (or preferably both) of these would be a VERY GOOD compromise from Tan and would show he is interested in what fans want whilst keeping his Far Eastern (red) plans intact ;)

But what I cannot support is a disgruntled group hing else would be secondary of maverick fans that don't have the 'future' interests of Cardiff City FC at heart and appear intent on alienating the very person (like him or loathe him) that has delivered on the dream; albeit in a slightly uncomfortable way ;) :ayatollah:


so if tan came in and give yr black and white spaniel a life saving operation you could nt a ford and you were
massivley grateful would u still feel the same if he then said i wanna give him floppy ears and color him dark
brown would you be an ungrateful c**t if you said 'not happy'




I'd just be grateful SOMEONE saved the dog's life, mate. Everything else would be secondary, trust me! ;) :ayatollah:

TBH, your analogy there is pretty unthinking and is too easy to rubbish...

School Report for BlueLikeYou: "Must try harder!" :lol: :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:07 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
Coco wrote:Tan has missed a golden opportunity to offer the olive branch yet again ! His contempt for all things Cardiff City & all things Welsh is tangible ! He is a hard -nosed & successful businessman & sadly I do not feel compromise is in his nature or vocabulary ! He solely , is responsible for the turmoil we find ourselves in once again ! Its high time we made a stand for what we believe in !




Contempt?? :? :o

What about the contempt you and others are showing him after he ploughed £100m to clear historical (and traditional :lol: ) debt and took us to The Premier League :oops:

Seems to me that you lack far more words than 'compromise' and they appear to include words such as 'appreciation, gratitude, understanding (of our position before he came in) and flexibility ;)

You might argue in return that he (VT) lacks similar wording too but I would respond to that by simply asking "What would you genuinely do if you ploughed that money in and believed you could benefit financially in the money markets by being seen in a colour that (and it may be alien to us) is deemed 'lucky' and therefore 'marketable'? :?:

One or two on here appear to believe I am anti-blue. That is NOT the case. However, I am a realist and I can see where Tan is coming from even if I don't particularly want it to happen. It is called 'progression' and it is something OUR club has needed for many years. To my mind, if the price of progress is a change of shirt colour in order to gain from foreign investment then that, I admit, is fine by me

I would, however, fully support either of both the following:

1: Blue shorts (and maybe piping on the shirt) plus

2: A return of the Bluebird as a mainstay of the badge

Either (or preferably both) of these would be a VERY GOOD compromise from Tan and would show he is interested in what fans want whilst keeping his Far Eastern (red) plans intact ;)

But what I cannot support is a disgruntled group hing else would be secondary of maverick fans that don't have the 'future' interests of Cardiff City FC at heart and appear intent on alienating the very person (like him or loathe him) that has delivered on the dream; albeit in a slightly uncomfortable way ;) :ayatollah:


so if tan came in and give yr black and white spaniel a life saving operation you could nt a ford and you were
massivley grateful would u still feel the same if he then said i wanna give him floppy ears and color him dark
brown would you be an ungrateful c**t if you said 'not happy'




I'd just be grateful SOMEONE saved the dog's life, mate. Everything else would be secondary, trust me! ;) :ayatollah:

TBH, your analogy there is pretty unthinking and is too easy to rubbish...

School Report for BlueLikeYou: "Must try harder!" :lol: :lol: :ayatollah:


You always know when a difficult question has been asked.

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:44 pm

carlccfc wrote:
AHERNE wrote:IS IT TO LATE THEN? .... I SHOULD IMAGINE BLUE SHORTS AND SOCKS AND TAN WOULD EVEN SAVE MONEY ON NEW SEATS AND KEEP THOUSANDS OF FANS HAPPY!

I honestly think that blue shorts would have been an olive branch and a step in the right direction.

Completely agree , I was actually shocked they didn't do that tbh , it was a perfect chance to build bridges with some fans and also Tan would still of had his top , I feel if they did do this , I don't think there would be a massive outcry now for blue shirts at home again (even though that's what I wanted ) , it would be seen by fans as the club were working with the fans and it would of been a perfect compromise

Re: CARL CURTIS " AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED "

Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:46 pm

If the club had any balls they should do another vote between black shorts and blue shorts to see what the fans really wanted as the shorts colour if we can't have the blue top at home :!:

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:04 pm

carlccfc wrote:
AHERNE wrote:IS IT TO LATE THEN? .... I SHOULD IMAGINE BLUE SHORTS AND SOCKS AND TAN WOULD EVEN SAVE MONEY ON NEW SEATS AND KEEP THOUSANDS OF FANS HAPPY!

I honestly think that blue shorts would have been an olive branch and a step in the right direction.

There was no option of blue though, says it all when a club asks fans to pick a colour of SHORTS ffs and the only colours there are ones we have worn already last season or all red :lol:

Re: CARL CURTIS " AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED "

Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:39 pm

He's lost a lot of Support the last few weeks.

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:55 pm

bluelikeyou wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
Coco wrote:Tan has missed a golden opportunity to offer the olive branch yet again ! His contempt for all things Cardiff City & all things Welsh is tangible ! He is a hard -nosed & successful businessman & sadly I do not feel compromise is in his nature or vocabulary ! He solely , is responsible for the turmoil we find ourselves in once again ! Its high time we made a stand for what we believe in !




Contempt?? :? :o

What about the contempt you and others are showing him after he ploughed £100m to clear historical (and traditional :lol: ) debt and took us to The Premier League :oops:

Seems to me that you lack far more words than 'compromise' and they appear to include words such as 'appreciation, gratitude, understanding (of our position before he came in) and flexibility ;)

You might argue in return that he (VT) lacks similar wording too but I would respond to that by simply asking "What would you genuinely do if you ploughed that money in and believed you could benefit financially in the money markets by being seen in a colour that (and it may be alien to us) is deemed 'lucky' and therefore 'marketable'? :?:

One or two on here appear to believe I am anti-blue. That is NOT the case. However, I am a realist and I can see where Tan is coming from even if I don't particularly want it to happen. It is called 'progression' and it is something OUR club has needed for many years. To my mind, if the price of progress is a change of shirt colour in order to gain from foreign investment then that, I admit, is fine by me

I would, however, fully support either of both the following:

1: Blue shorts (and maybe piping on the shirt) plus

2: A return of the Bluebird as a mainstay of the badge

Either (or preferably both) of these would be a VERY GOOD compromise from Tan and would show he is interested in what fans want whilst keeping his Far Eastern (red) plans intact ;)

But what I cannot support is a disgruntled group of maverick fans that don't have the 'future' interests of Cardiff City FC at heart and appear intent on alienating the very person (like him or loathe him) that has delivered on the dream; albeit in a slightly uncomfortable way ;) :ayatollah:


so if tan came in and give yr black and white spaniel a life saving operation you could nt a ford and you were
massivley grateful would u still feel the same if he then said i wanna give him floppy ears and color him dark
brown would you be an ungrateful c**t if you said 'not happy'

if tan gave you the gift of life when you were at deaths door but said all i want in return is for you to change your blue eyes red would you turn him down?

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:16 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
Coco wrote:Tan has missed a golden opportunity to offer the olive branch yet again ! His contempt for all things Cardiff City & all things Welsh is tangible ! He is a hard -nosed & successful businessman & sadly I do not feel compromise is in his nature or vocabulary ! He solely , is responsible for the turmoil we find ourselves in once again ! Its high time we made a stand for what we believe in !




Contempt?? :? :o

What about the contempt you and others are showing him after he ploughed £100m to clear historical (and traditional :lol: ) debt and took us to The Premier League :oops:

Seems to me that you lack far more words than 'compromise' and they appear to include words such as 'appreciation, gratitude, understanding (of our position before he came in) and flexibility ;)

You might argue in return that he (VT) lacks similar wording too but I would respond to that by simply asking "What would you genuinely do if you ploughed that money in and believed you could benefit financially in the money markets by being seen in a colour that (and it may be alien to us) is deemed 'lucky' and therefore 'marketable'? :?:

One or two on here appear to believe I am anti-blue. That is NOT the case. However, I am a realist and I can see where Tan is coming from even if I don't particularly want it to happen. It is called 'progression' and it is something OUR club has needed for many years. To my mind, if the price of progress is a change of shirt colour in order to gain from foreign investment then that, I admit, is fine by me

I would, however, fully support either of both the following:

1: Blue shorts (and maybe piping on the shirt) plus

2: A return of the Bluebird as a mainstay of the badge

Either (or preferably both) of these would be a VERY GOOD compromise from Tan and would show he is interested in what fans want whilst keeping his Far Eastern (red) plans intact ;)

But what I cannot support is a disgruntled group hing else would be secondary of maverick fans that don't have the 'future' interests of Cardiff City FC at heart and appear intent on alienating the very person (like him or loathe him) that has delivered on the dream; albeit in a slightly uncomfortable way ;) :ayatollah:


so if tan came in and give yr black and white spaniel a life saving operation you could nt a ford and you were
massivley grateful would u still feel the same if he then said i wanna give him floppy ears and color him dark
brown would you be an ungrateful c**t if you said 'not happy'




I'd just be grateful SOMEONE saved the dog's life, mate. Everything else would be secondary, trust me! ;) :ayatollah:

TBH, your analogy there is pretty unthinking and is too easy to rubbish...

School Report for BlueLikeYou: "Must try harder!" :lol: :lol: :ayatollah:



Still jumping into bed with Tan I see Sven ! What exactly are you hiding ??

Re: CARL CURTIS " AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED "

Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:39 pm

The chance was missed when we decided to keep the shorts Black, just don't understand why.

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:55 pm

Coco wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
Coco wrote:Tan has missed a golden opportunity to offer the olive branch yet again ! His contempt for all things Cardiff City & all things Welsh is tangible ! He is a hard -nosed & successful businessman & sadly I do not feel compromise is in his nature or vocabulary ! He solely , is responsible for the turmoil we find ourselves in once again ! Its high time we made a stand for what we believe in !




Contempt?? :? :o

What about the contempt you and others are showing him after he ploughed £100m to clear historical (and traditional :lol: ) debt and took us to The Premier League :oops:

Seems to me that you lack far more words than 'compromise' and they appear to include words such as 'appreciation, gratitude, understanding (of our position before he came in) and flexibility ;)

You might argue in return that he (VT) lacks similar wording too but I would respond to that by simply asking "What would you genuinely do if you ploughed that money in and believed you could benefit financially in the money markets by being seen in a colour that (and it may be alien to us) is deemed 'lucky' and therefore 'marketable'? :?:

One or two on here appear to believe I am anti-blue. That is NOT the case. However, I am a realist and I can see where Tan is coming from even if I don't particularly want it to happen. It is called 'progression' and it is something OUR club has needed for many years. To my mind, if the price of progress is a change of shirt colour in order to gain from foreign investment then that, I admit, is fine by me

I would, however, fully support either of both the following:

1: Blue shorts (and maybe piping on the shirt) plus

2: A return of the Bluebird as a mainstay of the badge

Either (or preferably both) of these would be a VERY GOOD compromise from Tan and would show he is interested in what fans want whilst keeping his Far Eastern (red) plans intact ;)

But what I cannot support is a disgruntled group hing else would be secondary of maverick fans that don't have the 'future' interests of Cardiff City FC at heart and appear intent on alienating the very person (like him or loathe him) that has delivered on the dream; albeit in a slightly uncomfortable way ;) :ayatollah:


so if tan came in and give yr black and white spaniel a life saving operation you could nt a ford and you were
massivley grateful would u still feel the same if he then said i wanna give him floppy ears and color him dark
brown would you be an ungrateful c**t if you said 'not happy'




I'd just be grateful SOMEONE saved the dog's life, mate. Everything else would be secondary, trust me! ;) :ayatollah:

TBH, your analogy there is pretty unthinking and is too easy to rubbish...

School Report for BlueLikeYou: "Must try harder!" :lol: :lol: :ayatollah:



Still jumping into bed with Tan I see Sven ! What exactly are you hiding ??





Interesting comment, coco and I could ask: "Are you still unable to think for yourself?" :lol: :oops:

That's a pretty broad statement to make, coco, and shows your complete ignorance of the situation and my thoughts on the whole red/blue issue ;) :lol: :lol:

What have I got to hide? I'm not the one who cannot justify my thoughts...that is your domain ;)

You need to get to bed earlier so you can read my thoughts in full, my friend. I am actually FOR the blue kit but I am intelligent enough to realise it just ain't gonna happen under Tan's watch. If you can't work that one out then you aren't very bright :lol:

I actually wrote a letter to Vincent Tan asking for him to re-consider turning parts of next year's kit blue; and if it cannot be done THIS year could he give a commitment for 2014/15 to appease disgruntled fans. I eagerly await his (or the club's) response ;)

What have YOU done 'for the cause' then, coco? :?

Hmmm, whinge and stir on here but very little else, I'll bet. I guess that is the limit of your abilities, eh? :lol:

You may not like it but I can think for myself, coco, and that certain intelligence allowed me to consider all the facts before concluding that (a) the red is here to stay (at least for now), and (b) there are smaller battles that CAN possibly be won ;)

Personally, I'll concentrate on the latter but It won't prevent me from voicing my opinions on the whole mess on this great MB just like others (whether we agree or not) ;) :ayatollah:

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:39 am

Sven Ghali wrote:
Coco wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
bluelikeyou wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
Coco wrote:Tan has missed a golden opportunity to offer the olive branch yet again ! His contempt for all things Cardiff City & all things Welsh is tangible ! He is a hard -nosed & successful businessman & sadly I do not feel compromise is in his nature or vocabulary ! He solely , is responsible for the turmoil we find ourselves in once again ! Its high time we made a stand for what we believe in !




Contempt?? :? :o

What about the contempt you and others are showing him after he ploughed £100m to clear historical (and traditional :lol: ) debt and took us to The Premier League :oops:

Seems to me that you lack far more words than 'compromise' and they appear to include words such as 'appreciation, gratitude, understanding (of our position before he came in) and flexibility ;)

You might argue in return that he (VT) lacks similar wording too but I would respond to that by simply asking "What would you genuinely do if you ploughed that money in and believed you could benefit financially in the money markets by being seen in a colour that (and it may be alien to us) is deemed 'lucky' and therefore 'marketable'? :?:

One or two on here appear to believe I am anti-blue. That is NOT the case. However, I am a realist and I can see where Tan is coming from even if I don't particularly want it to happen. It is called 'progression' and it is something OUR club has needed for many years. To my mind, if the price of progress is a change of shirt colour in order to gain from foreign investment then that, I admit, is fine by me

I would, however, fully support either of both the following:

1: Blue shorts (and maybe piping on the shirt) plus

2: A return of the Bluebird as a mainstay of the badge

Either (or preferably both) of these would be a VERY GOOD compromise from Tan and would show he is interested in what fans want whilst keeping his Far Eastern (red) plans intact ;)

But what I cannot support is a disgruntled group hing else would be secondary of maverick fans that don't have the 'future' interests of Cardiff City FC at heart and appear intent on alienating the very person (like him or loathe him) that has delivered on the dream; albeit in a slightly uncomfortable way ;) :ayatollah:


so if tan came in and give yr black and white spaniel a life saving operation you could nt a ford and you were
massivley grateful would u still feel the same if he then said i wanna give him floppy ears and color him dark
brown would you be an ungrateful c**t if you said 'not happy'




I'd just be grateful SOMEONE saved the dog's life, mate. Everything else would be secondary, trust me! ;) :ayatollah:

TBH, your analogy there is pretty unthinking and is too easy to rubbish...

School Report for BlueLikeYou: "Must try harder!" :lol: :lol: :ayatollah:



Still jumping into bed with Tan I see Sven ! What exactly are you hiding ??





Interesting comment, coco and I could ask: "Are you still unable to think for yourself?" :lol: :oops:

That's a pretty broad statement to make, coco, and shows your complete ignorance of the situation and my thoughts on the whole red/blue issue ;) :lol: :lol:

What have I got to hide? I'm not the one who cannot justify my thoughts...that is your domain ;)

You need to get to bed earlier so you can read my thoughts in full, my friend. I am actually FOR the blue kit but I am intelligent enough to realise it just ain't gonna happen under Tan's watch. If you can't work that one out then you aren't very bright :lol:

I actually wrote a letter to Vincent Tan asking for him to re-consider turning parts of next year's kit blue; and if it cannot be done THIS year could he give a commitment for 2014/15 to appease disgruntled fans. I eagerly await his (or the club's) response ;)

What have YOU done 'for the cause' then, coco? :?

Hmmm, whinge and stir on here but very little else, I'll bet. I guess that is the limit of your abilities, eh? :lol:

You may not like it but I can think for myself, coco, and that certain intelligence allowed me to consider all the facts before concluding that (a) the red is here to stay (at least for now), and (b) there are smaller battles that CAN possibly be won ;)

Personally, I'll concentrate on the latter but It won't prevent me from voicing my opinions on the whole mess on this great MB just like others (whether we agree or not) ;) :ayatollah:[


Mmmmmmmmm appeasement !!!

Re: CARL CURTIS " NOT TRUE "

Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:33 am

So, let me get this right, Certain people wanted the club to give We the fans a say in the kit colour but as it hasn't gone their way the vote was wrong. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Blue socks and shorts would have been nice but there we are so onwards and upwards.

Re: CARL CURTIS " NOT TRUE "

Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:40 am

Cityfan@Pontgarreg wrote:So, let me get this right, Certain people wanted the club to give We the fans a say in the kit colour but as it hasn't gone their way the vote was wrong. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Blue socks and shorts would have been nice but there we are so onwards and upwards.

The option the majority of City fans wanted was not included in the vote.

So yes you have got it right.

Re: CARL CURTIS " NOT TRUE "

Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:51 am

carlccfc wrote:
Cityfan@Pontgarreg wrote:So, let me get this right, Certain people wanted the club to give We the fans a say in the kit colour but as it hasn't gone their way the vote was wrong. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Blue socks and shorts would have been nice but there we are so onwards and upwards.

The option the majority of City fans wanted was not included in the vote.

So yes you have got it right.


Thank you Carl, back from hols and we now have this crap!! bloody hell I thought the days of CCFC soap opera were over.

Was there a vote to judge what you say the majority of City fans wanted then?

Re: CARL CURTIS " NOT TRUE "

Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:54 am

Cityfan@Pontgarreg wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Cityfan@Pontgarreg wrote:So, let me get this right, Certain people wanted the club to give We the fans a say in the kit colour but as it hasn't gone their way the vote was wrong. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Blue socks and shorts would have been nice but there we are so onwards and upwards.

The option the majority of City fans wanted was not included in the vote.

So yes you have got it right.


Thank you Carl, back from hols and we now have this crap!! bloody hell I thought the days of CCFC soap opera were over.

Was there a vote to judge what you say the majority of City fans wanted then?

Blue shorts was not an option.

Re: CARL CURTIS " NOT TRUE "

Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:58 am

carlccfc wrote:
Cityfan@Pontgarreg wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
Cityfan@Pontgarreg wrote:So, let me get this right, Certain people wanted the club to give We the fans a say in the kit colour but as it hasn't gone their way the vote was wrong. Hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Blue socks and shorts would have been nice but there we are so onwards and upwards.

The option the majority of City fans wanted was not included in the vote.

So yes you have got it right.


Thank you Carl, back from hols and we now have this crap!! bloody hell I thought the days of CCFC soap opera were over.

Was there a vote to judge what you say the majority of City fans wanted then?

Blue shorts was not an option.


The vote involved the colour of the shorts ONLY. There were 4 colours to choose from but blue shorts was not one of them.

A lot of people complained and substained from voting as it did not involve the colour of the shirt. The worry is now the club will exploit this vote by claiming they gave the fans a choice of kit leaving the impression that we voted for the red shirt as well. That is what the article is all about.

Re: CARL CURTIS " NOT TRUE "

Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:07 am

Aye I see that but there you go, a clever man will always outflank his opposition.

Carl thanks for clearing that up , good god that dark red looks shite :lol:

Re: CARL CURTIS " NOT TRUE "

Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:47 am

dark blue shorts would have been good

Re: CARL CURTIS " NOT TRUE "

Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:51 am

further disgrace, Im a city fan and a ambassidor holder but Im afraid the club are alienating fans , consultation is nothig but toekenistic at worthless, sadly where was the Choice ,, No Choice RED RED... why not give free chaoice and see if the fans really wanted Blue .
I for one wanted to keep our traditional colour and allowing blue shorts would of been a gesture in right direction and good PR.

sadly city dont learn and i guess, issues will continue in to next season ,,, shameful

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:11 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
Coco wrote:Tan has missed a golden opportunity to offer the olive branch yet again ! His contempt for all things Cardiff City & all things Welsh is tangible ! He is a hard -nosed & successful businessman & sadly I do not feel compromise is in his nature or vocabulary ! He solely , is responsible for the turmoil we find ourselves in once again ! Its high time we made a stand for what we believe in !




Contempt?? :? :o

What about the contempt you and others are showing him after he ploughed £100m to clear historical (and traditional :lol: ) debt and took us to The Premier League :oops:

Seems to me that you lack far more words than 'compromise' and they appear to include words such as 'appreciation, gratitude, understanding (of our position before he came in) and flexibility ;)

You might argue in return that he (VT) lacks similar wording too but I would respond to that by simply asking "What would you genuinely do if you ploughed that money in and believed you could benefit financially in the money markets by being seen in a colour that (and it may be alien to us) is deemed 'lucky' and therefore 'marketable'? :?:

One or two on here appear to believe I am anti-blue. That is NOT the case. However, I am a realist and I can see where Tan is coming from even if I don't particularly want it to happen. It is called 'progression' and it is something OUR club has needed for many years. To my mind, if the price of progress is a change of shirt colour in order to gain from foreign investment then that, I admit, is fine by me

I would, however, fully support either of both the following:

1: Blue shorts (and maybe piping on the shirt) plus

2: A return of the Bluebird as a mainstay of the badge

Either (or preferably both) of these would be a VERY GOOD compromise from Tan and would show he is interested in what fans want whilst keeping his Far Eastern (red) plans intact ;)

But what I cannot support is a disgruntled group of maverick fans that don't have the 'future' interests of Cardiff City FC at heart and appear intent on alienating the very person (like him or loathe him) that has delivered on the dream; albeit in a slightly uncomfortable way ;) :ayatollah:[/quote

Completely agree with you Sven

Re: CARL CURTIS "AN OPPORTUNITY MISSED"

Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:12 pm

Coco wrote:Tan has missed a golden opportunity to offer the olive branch yet again ! His contempt for all things Cardiff City & all things Welsh is tangible ! He is a hard -nosed & successful businessman & sadly I do not feel compromise is in his nature or vocabulary ! He solely , is responsible for the turmoil we find ourselves in once again ! Its high time we made a stand for what we believe in !


" hard -nosed & successful businessman & sadly I do not feel compromise is in his nature or vocabulary"

HELLO SMELL THE ROSES MATE, THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL!!