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FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 7:58 pm

James,
Just out of interest why do you choose to have so many accounts in use on the messageboard? Personally I only have this account, I understand (but do not condone) that some people use a secondary account for trolling or if they want to be more vocal than they would on their primary account, but you I just cant work out. You seem to openly create multiple accounts for no apparant reason? you're other account (allblackeverything) seem to be still in use, yet you've created this 'rise of the red dragon' account?

I was just wondering what your rational was for creating extra accounts?

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:01 pm

He's a human chameleon.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:01 pm

Gavin wrote:James,
Just out of interest why do you choose to have so many accounts in use on the messageboard. Personally I only have this account, I understand that some people use a secondary account for trolling or if they want to be more vocal than they would on their primary account, but you I just cant work out. You seem to openly create multiple accounts for no apparant reason? you other account (allblackeverything) seem to be still in use, yet you've created this 'rise of the red dragon' account?

I was just wondering what your rational was for creating extra accounts?


My All Black Everything account is no longer in use. I asked Baked to ban it when this one was created. I am not trolling. I am vocal and I stand by my views that a compromise decision reached by communicating with Tan directly is the only outcome that is going to happen.

I made one post in reply to Angry Man yesterday with my All Black Everything account because my computer cookies remembered my old details and logged me in on that and I had posted in response before noticing. I then logged out and realised the error. This is my main and only account now. Baked should have banned the other one. It is of no use to me.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:02 pm

People create an extra account for being more vocal? I find that sadder that having multiple account for trolling.

Be true to yourself ya two faced bastards. :D

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:02 pm

The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
Gavin wrote:James,
Just out of interest why do you choose to have so many accounts in use on the messageboard. Personally I only have this account, I understand that some people use a secondary account for trolling or if they want to be more vocal than they would on their primary account, but you I just cant work out. You seem to openly create multiple accounts for no apparant reason? you other account (allblackeverything) seem to be still in use, yet you've created this 'rise of the red dragon' account?

I was just wondering what your rational was for creating extra accounts?


My All Black Everything account is no longer in use. I asked Baked to ban it when this one was created. I am not trolling. I am vocal and I stand by my views that a compromise decision reached by communicating with Tan directly is the only outcome that is going to happen.

I made one post in reply to Angry Man yesterday with my All Black Everything account because my computer cookies remembered my old details and logged me in on that and I had posted in response before noticing. I then logged out and realised the error. This is my main and only account now. Baked should have banned the other one. It is of no use to me.


fair enough

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:02 pm

JonCCFC wrote:He's a human chameleon.


Sorry pro blue of the year.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:03 pm

The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:He's a human chameleon.


Sorry pro blue of the year.

Apology accepted

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:03 pm

Wayne S wrote:People create an extra account for being more vocal? I find that sadder that having multiple account for trolling.

Be true to yourself ya two faced bastards. :D


I also find that quite amusing, dont want to be too vocal on their completly anonymous primary account :lol: they've got their primary account reputation to consider :lol:

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:04 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:He's a human chameleon.


Sorry pro blue of the year.

Apology accepted


I'll buy you a nice red kit to say sorry.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:05 pm

Gavin wrote:
Wayne S wrote:People create an extra account for being more vocal? I find that sadder that having multiple account for trolling.

Be true to yourself ya two faced bastards. :D


I also find that quite amusing, dont want to be too vocal on their completly anonymous primary account :lol: they've got their primary account reputation to consider :lol:


Well I'll say how I feel on whatever account and it says who I am on my signature. If people are going to get their heads up their arse because of another persons opinion its more of a reflection on them to be fair. The point of a forum, im sure you agree, is to debate and have a bit of a laugh at the same time. Im not assed at all for putting my viewpoint across whether it be on a political topic or our club. If you're afraid of being called up on your opinion you may as well sit in silence in the corner.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:07 pm

Gavin wrote:
Wayne S wrote:People create an extra account for being more vocal? I find that sadder that having multiple account for trolling.

Be true to yourself ya two faced bastards. :D


I also find that quite amusing, dont want to be too vocal on their completly anonymous primary account :lol: they've got their primary account reputation to consider :lol:


Damn I just remembered I created a second account a few months back, but I promise it wasn't to voice a different or more vocal opinion.

Pot and kettle. :roll:
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Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:07 pm

he probably makes so many so people dont realize how many posts he actually has :lol: :ayatollah:

Just Kidding :D

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:08 pm

The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:He's a human chameleon.


Sorry pro blue of the year.

Apology accepted


I'll buy you a nice red kit to say sorry.

Thank you. I'll put it on ebay.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:09 pm

The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:He's a human chameleon.


Sorry pro blue of the year.

Apology accepted


I'll buy you a nice red kit to say sorry.


Do you also have a load of twitter accounts? I hope I'm conversing with the right You. :?

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:10 pm

The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
Gavin wrote:
Wayne S wrote:People create an extra account for being more vocal? I find that sadder that having multiple account for trolling.

Be true to yourself ya two faced bastards. :D


I also find that quite amusing, dont want to be too vocal on their completly anonymous primary account :lol: they've got their primary account reputation to consider :lol:


Well I'll say how I feel on whatever account and it says who I am on my signature. If people are going to get their heads up their arse because of another persons opinion its more of a reflection on them to be fair. The point of a forum, im sure you agree, is to debate and have a bit of a laugh at the same time. Im not assed at all for putting my viewpoint across whether it be on a political topic or our club. If you're afraid of being called up on your opinion you may as well sit in silence in the corner.


I merely asked the question of why, I have no issue with your situation as it stands, ive just ensured your ABE account has been added to the banlist for you.

Although one thing I will point our is that you have changed your opinion loads of times on the topic of the rebrand, so I would'nt shout to loud from your soap box or people with more time on their hands than me may drag up some quotes from your other accounts that could come back to haunt you!

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:12 pm

Wayne S wrote:
Do you also have a load of twitter accounts? I hope I'm conversing with the right You. :?


Just the one and yes I have been conversing with you. Good arguments as well to be fair. :thumbright:

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:14 pm

The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
Do you also have a load of twitter accounts? I hope I'm conversing with the right You. :?


Just the one and yes I have been conversing with you. Good arguments as well to be fair. :thumbright:


Your tweets were a godsend in a sea of #bgt on my feed. :roll:

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:19 pm

Gavin wrote:
I merely asked the question of why, I have no issue with your situation as it stands, ive just ensured your ABE account has been added to the banlist for you.


Thank you Gav.

Although one thing I will point our is that you have changed your opinion loads of times on this topic, so I would'nt shout to loud from your soap box or people with more time on their hands than me may drag up some quotes from your other accounts that could come back to haunt you!


I'll explain my stance here easy. At first, I and a number of individuals opposed the rebrand and we got abuse on Twitter. I got abused and threatened a number of times from some people and in the end just put my Twitter account as private to stop the degenerates.

I then, after realising the situation as it was, things change and im aware of that, just accepted it for what it was. I had no power, no influence, more fans wanted the money and red and I was in a minority. Do I jump aboard their ship or do I continue down my own path of self pity as a pro blue and torment myself and not enjoy the season? I jumped on the red bandwagon and thought it would be the best to enjoy the season.

Then comes scarfgate. Everyone was just enjoying things as they were going along. Top of the table and we thought all of the talk about the rebrand would be left to the close season. However, Tan comes along with a genius plan and decides to try and force a red scarf on everyone. I still dont agree with that decision now and its one that the club should learn from in my opinion in terms of future decisions. However, it pissed me off. Fans had just been getting on and it was adding more fuel to a fire that was already going to be relit this summer, Premier League achieved or not. For a whilst, im sure as most fans have been, I was caught in two minds of where to go.

Then at the speech Tan turns up and says a sentence I'll never forget 'AT HOME WILL ALWAYS BE BLUE'. That woke me up to the reality of the situation that a compromise needs to be met. Tan nailed his view points to the mast and it woke me up. I then new on a professional capacity his stance on the rebrand and where we could go from there. There's my stance, and as it is now. A compromise decision needs to be reached.

I accepted for some that wont be good enough and I accept some fans wont understand the changing of opinions but they were made on the back of things the club did that I disagreed with. I will admit, as others I suppose are, in a state of confusion as to what we could, where we could go from there, what the rebrand was for and what I really wanted and so forth.

Deep down I want blue and the old identity back. Im sure every fan does. Maybe a few young fans who know no better dont but its unfair to judge these young fans. However, i accept whilst Tan is in charge that we wont get a blue kit back at home or our old badge back. That however is not going to stop me pushing for a compromise.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:24 pm

Why did you delete your old accounts in the past? just curious

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:25 pm

bluebird_mike wrote:Why did you delete your old accounts in the past? just curious

Because he doesn't want his complete opposite views to be shown on here to avoid looking like a silly hypocrite.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:26 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
bluebird_mike wrote:Why did you delete your old accounts in the past? just curious

Because he doesn't want his complete opposite views to be shown on here to avoid looking like a silly hypocrite.


Says the pro blue who doesn't turn up to pro blue demo's and still goes to games supporting Tan's vision. The irony. So pro blue in fact your avatar is of Tans new blue kit with the new badge on. You must really loathe the rebrand.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:27 pm

The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:He's a human chameleon.


Sorry pro blue of the year.

Apology accepted


I'll buy you a nice red kit to say sorry.


No

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:28 pm

He does it to wind people up. Craves attention so much it's cringeworthy but each to their own.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:29 pm

The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:
bluebird_mike wrote:Why did you delete your old accounts in the past? just curious

Because he doesn't want his complete opposite views to be shown on here to avoid looking like a silly hypocrite.


Says the pro blue who doesn't turn up to pro blue demo's and still goes to games supporting Tan's vision. The irony. So pro blue in fact your avatar is of Tans new blue kit with the new badge on. You must really loathe the rebrand.

Ahhh so supporting Cardiff City and being against the rebrand is now an act of hypocrisy, brilliant. :lol:

I don't like the badge but I can accept that badges change from time to time at all clubs, club colours however should not. That's my view on the rebrand.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:31 pm

JonCCFC wrote:Ahhh so supporting Cardiff City and being against the rebrand is now an act of hypocrisy, brilliant. :lol:

I don't like the badge but I can accept that badges change from time to time at all clubs, club colours however should not. That's my view on the rebrand.


Fair enough but do you not accept you're supporting the rebrand by buying the new merchandise? You buying the blue kit this year is supporting Tan's vision. At the end of the day all he sees is balance sheets and figures that represent money on paper, nothing other than that. As long as he sees sales hes a happy chairman.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:36 pm

The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:Ahhh so supporting Cardiff City and being against the rebrand is now an act of hypocrisy, brilliant. :lol:

I don't like the badge but I can accept that badges change from time to time at all clubs, club colours however should not. That's my view on the rebrand.


Fair enough but do you not accept you're supporting the rebrand by buying the new merchandise? You buying the blue kit this year is supporting Tan's vision. At the end of the day all he sees is balance sheets and figures that represent money on paper, nothing other than that. As long as he sees sales hes a happy chairman.

To me, supporting the rebrand is buying the red merchandise. So I'm not supporting the rebrand.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:42 pm

Can you answer my question please. Unsure if you've deliberately avoided it or got caught up in a different debate. :ayatollah:

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:42 pm

JonCCFC wrote:
The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
JonCCFC wrote:Ahhh so supporting Cardiff City and being against the rebrand is now an act of hypocrisy, brilliant. :lol:

I don't like the badge but I can accept that badges change from time to time at all clubs, club colours however should not. That's my view on the rebrand.


Fair enough but do you not accept you're supporting the rebrand by buying the new merchandise? You buying the blue kit this year is supporting Tan's vision. At the end of the day all he sees is balance sheets and figures that represent money on paper, nothing other than that. As long as he sees sales hes a happy chairman.

To me, supporting the rebrand is buying the red merchandise. So I'm not supporting the rebrand.


To you maybe but its not your opinion that matters, its Tans. He has the influence because hes the owner of the club. You need to act in a way that he sees a protest. Buying his merchandise you are supporting it in his eyes.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:45 pm

bluebird_mike wrote:Why did you delete your old accounts in the past? just curious


I have discussed a reason with Owain in private and I have also another reason and thats being I want my current account to be in line with my current stance on the club. I have no issue to troll and if my opinions/views offend you then put me on ignore. I have several members on ignore on this new account to avoid getting drawn into tittle tattle arguments. Theres no point for them. Im up for debate on real club issues and from August onwards I will be setting up a website for a compromise group so moving forward we can get that shitty badge changed.

After that and the outcome of that attempt at compromise we will reassess the situation and then take whatever measures need to be taken. There wont be protests in the street, just professional communication with the club. Thats the real way of getting heard but to be taken seriously you need to be aiming for serious goals.

Re: FAO James Barnett

Tue May 28, 2013 8:48 pm

The Rise Of The Red Dragon. wrote:
bluebird_mike wrote:Why did you delete your old accounts in the past? just curious


I have discussed a reason with Owain in private and I have also another reason and thats being I want my current account to be in line with my current stance on the club. I have no issue to troll and if my opinions/views offend you then put me on ignore. I have several members on ignore on this new account to avoid getting drawn into tittle tattle arguments. Theres no point for them. Im up for debate on real club issues and from August onwards I will be setting up a website for a compromise group so moving forward we can get that shitty badge changed.

After that and the outcome of that attempt at compromise we will reassess the situation and then take whatever measures need to be taken. There wont be protests in the street, just professional communication with the club. Thats the real way of getting heard but to be taken seriously you need to be aiming for serious goals.


Can't you just change your username? Apologies if you can't