Carl Froch

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Nanny Mcphail, a massive Joe Calzaghe fan, will tell you how long ive supported Froch.

The guy has had 50/50 fight after 50/50 fight. Hes proper.

Shame its taken 10 yrs to get the respect he deserves but hes done it he hard way.

Fair play to Kessler. One tough c**t.

I prefer Froch to Calzaghe if im to be honest with you. Not having a stab at Calzaghe's career.

Got some muppet now on Twitter saying Ward should come to the UK and prove himself vs Froch after already beating him with injury, outside of his own state, in the USA where many Americans dont like him, whilst holding the WBA and Ring Magazine belts. Ward has nothing to prove whatsoever but I would not be surprised if he does the fight just to shut people up and because the division is lacking.

Some mothers do 'ave em.

As much as I love Frochy Ward is too slippery for him.

Wouldnt mind a trip to Vegas to watch it though.

Hated Froch when Calzaghe was active but you've got to hand it to him I think he might have beaten Joe.Thought JC done a better job on a prime Kessler though and done what Joe did best and keep his opponent quiet.When you compare records and who they faced and what belts they won, Froch wins hands down, quite apt that.

Froch has fought everyone he can at their primes. Calzaghe didnt

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Hated Froch when Calzaghe was active but you've got to hand it to him I think he might have beaten Joe.Thought JC done a better job on a prime Kessler though and done what Joe did best and keep his opponent quiet.When you compare records and who they faced and what belts they won, Froch wins hands down, quite apt that.

froch wouldnt have beaten joe..

Hated Froch when Calzaghe was active but you've got to hand it to him I think he might have beaten Joe.Thought JC done a better job on a prime Kessler though and done what Joe did best and keep his opponent quiet.When you compare records and who they faced and what belts they won, Froch wins hands down, quite apt that.

froch wouldnt have beaten joe..

I'd have agreed with you before he beat Bute and the way Froch has pushed on . It's all subjective though.The biggest shame is he retired when he did and should have shut Froch up so we'll never know.

Calzaghe all day for me, was interesting on sky sports on the ropes with richie woodhall, roy jones jnr, steve collins, eubank and joe, everyone thought joe on top form beats froch, and its hard for them to say that when froch is in bed with sky and they know both well. Eubank put the myth to bed that joes a slap puncher, said joe hurt him big time in their fight and to hurt eubank takes a lot!

Joe was mismanaged a lot for me, and was a world title holder so didn't have to go to peoples back yards, americans don't travel if they have a belt so why should joe, he sold more seats over here than the states as nowhere holds as many as mill stad or wembley etc. Very nice venues in the states but not that big.

Wouldn't want to take a punch from froch, guys an out and out beast, build like granite, bit like the beckham of football, does what he can to the peak of his abilities but has limitations...

Hated Froch when Calzaghe was active but you've got to hand it to him I think he might have beaten Joe.Thought JC done a better job on a prime Kessler though and done what Joe did best and keep his opponent quiet.When you compare records and who they faced and what belts they won, Froch wins hands down, quite apt that.

Totally disagree,JC beat everyone put in front of him some with damaged hands,Froch never was and never will be in the same league,he is slow and downright boring,JC would have slapped him silly.

anyone got any links for the fight?

Hated Froch when Calzaghe was active but you've got to hand it to him I think he might have beaten Joe.Thought JC done a better job on a prime Kessler though and done what Joe did best and keep his opponent quiet.When you compare records and who they faced and what belts they won, Froch wins hands down, quite apt that.

froch wouldnt have beaten joe..

I'd have agreed with you before he beat Bute and the way Froch has pushed on . It's all subjective though.The biggest shame is he retired when he did and should have shut Froch up so we'll never know.

The Way he beat Bute makes you seriously doubt the outcome if the fight?

Joe's was better than almost anyone of being able to adjust and switch tactics in a fight..
He did it to perfection against Kessler after a few early close rounds,Joe Switched and won the fight fairly convincingly.
Carl has struggled with switch fighters, Dirrell gave him all sorts of issues and Andre Ward pretty much won every round against him. Whilst Joe would engage Carl more that Ward would,Joe would eventually switch tactics and Carl would be hitting fresh air a lot of the time..

Carl had a 27% connection rate against a fighter (Kessler) who is not known for his great lateral movement .

I would however happily pay £14.95 to watch these two warrior stand and deliver on a regular basis .

I would however happily pay £14.95 to watch these two warrior stand and deliver on a regular basis .

Had it been an old school 15 rounder I think Froch would have got the KO in the next round.

I would however happily pay £14.95 to watch these two warrior stand and deliver on a regular basis .

Had it been an old school 15 rounder I think Froch would have got the KO in the next round.

Yeah agreed..
I had Carl for late stoppage

As much as I love Frochy Ward is too slippery for him.

Wouldnt mind a trip to Vegas to watch it though.

Good show by froch, but agree, he wouldn't get anywhere near ward. Nothing wrong with that because nobody will get near ward for a long while yet. That guy is in a class of his own. Plus froch would probably have to fight ward in the states.

Both froch and kessler overated..

Both froch and kessler overated..

what makes you say that?

Both froch and kessler overated..

Overrated
Universally recognised as 2 and 3 respectably in the SuperMid division behind Andre Ward who is a very worthy No1.

But for you they're overrated....

Between them they have had 82 fights many at world title level and have held almost every version of the title, boxed in the biggest boxing venues across the globe and are appreciated from many fight fans for their styles and attitudes towards the sport..

But for you they're overrated.....

Im a Froch fan but if he were to fight Ward again, he would struggle to land even one meaningful punch. 120-108 x 3 for Ward

Both froch and kessler overated..

Overrated
Universally recognised as 2 and 3 respectably in the SuperMid division behind Andre Ward who is a very worthy No1.

But for you they're overrated....

Between them they have had 82 fights many at world title level and have held almost every version of the title, boxed in the biggest boxing venues across the globe and are appreciated from many fight fans for their styles and attitudes towards the sport..

But for you they're overrated.....

Just my opinion ive never liked or rated froch and kessler is just a brawler both are not good boxers and when they fight a good boxer they will lose. bute was a joke to

Ok jinks I accept you don't like either Fighter, but how do you come to the conclusion of them being overrated.

TBF when Joe was active the top lads wasn't really around. But when he came up against quality he would raise his game to legendary. Froch to be fair of late has looked class and as i have not watched his fight last night i can't comment but i hear he was awesome in an awesome fight.
But would Froch of been able to beat Joe ? No and no way. Calzaghe would of raised his game to see him off but that is my opinion lads. But i did have Froch to beat Kessler last night as Froch is still hungry and by Kesslers own admission he no longer enjoys boxing. Expect him now to retire.

Froch as he is right now would have been Joe's toughest fight.

Froch as he is right now would have been Joe's toughest fight.

Would of been interesting Chief. But back in Joe's time Froch was a loud mouth cretin that wasn't fit to lace Joe's gloves. But now he is a special talent but is on the back end of his career

Froch as he is right now would have been Joe's toughest fight.

Would of been interesting Chief. But back in Joe's time Froch was a loud mouth cretin that wasn't fit to lace Joe's gloves. But now he is a special talent but is on the back end of his career

i agree nukes.... i remember him being chopsy once in a programme ringing joe when he was training in the canaries and asking him for the fight...

froch is a decent fighter but in my opinion joe knew how to win every fight and froch would not have beaten joe....

Froch as he is right now would have been Joe's toughest fight.

When you Face a Fighter and ring legend like Chris Eubank for a world title in your very First 12 round fight, you cannot say Froch on current form would be his toughest fight.

Froch as he is right now would have been Joe's toughest fight.

When you Face a Fighter and ring legend like Chris Eubank for a world title in your very First 12 round fight, you cannot say Froch on current form would be his toughest fight.

Eubank was well on the slide by then.Retired soon after didn't he? I had Euhank in mind, obviously but Joe fought him at the end and the right time.

joe fought kessler unbeaten at 27 and dminated him.......

kessler had only fought around 13 rds in last 3 yrs before yesterday after eye surgery and could still av taken the decision

joe fought kessler unbeaten at 27 and dminated him.......

kessler had only fought around 13 rds in last 3 yrs before yesterday after eye surgery and could still av taken the decision

8 rounds on one scorecard.Froch clearly won the fight but Kessler was always live in there.A minute longer and Kessler was out of there at the end. I've not said I think Froch would have beaten Joe for definite just he'd have been his toughest fight imo. I'd love to hear Kessler' s thought's on the 2 and who was what . I'm sure he said Joe was after beating Froch in Denmark.Be interesting what he says after last night.

Froch as he is right now would have been Joe's toughest fight.

When you Face a Fighter and ring legend like Chris Eubank for a world title in your very First 12 round fight, you cannot say Froch on current form would be his toughest fight.

Eubank was well on the slide by then.Retired soon after didn't he? I had Euhank in mind, obviously but Joe fought him at the end and the right time.

Missing the point... Joe had knocked out nearly every opponent before he faced Eubank...
When he faced him he was very inexperienced, and had not gone 12 rounds.
To get a close comparison now in terms of experience would be to put Carl Frampton in with PAC or Groves in with Bhop.
Would you expect either one of them to come out of it with a win?

Many said what you said bout Eubank, about Bhop when Joe beat him... But look at what he has done since...

I'd have Joe winning 7-3 rounds and 2 drawn.

Froch starting stronger and swinging widely and erratic at times.With joe coming back with higher tempo and as he would dropping his hands doing his usual bravado..
By the half way mark CF 58 JC 57 .
This is we're his tactical switch would come ..
He would drop to the back foot and invite Carl in using his superior hand speed and footwork he would win the next 5 before a an all out war in the last where a desperate Carl catches Joe several times but is constantly getting caught when attempting to wade in... After A drawn last round we see Joes hand get raised taking a 117-113 on the cards.

I've visioned the fight many times