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British Boxing

Sat May 25, 2013 9:42 pm

Oh dear, getting quite embarrassing really.

First they put a nothing fight on before the main event to try and promote fighters when the fighters should be promoting themselves with their performances. This would never happen Stateside.

Then the referee jumps in within seconds to stop a fight - out of his depth.

Froch is one of a few fighters (Groves, Haye, Khan, Clev, etc.) keeping us on the boxing map to be fair. It really does need some investment though and a shake up. Time to bring boxing into schools and get rid of this health and safety bollocks.

Come on Froch, do it for Britain. :malky: :malky: :malky:

:old:

Re: British Boxing

Sat May 25, 2013 9:59 pm

Wooo :ayatollah: what time does the fight start?

Re: British Boxing

Sat May 25, 2013 10:02 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:Wooo :ayatollah: what time does the fight start?


11.15pm ring entrance I think mate. :ayatollah:

http://boxingguru.eu/gurutv1.html

Re: British Boxing

Sat May 25, 2013 10:02 pm

Sweet cheers mate. I completely forget it was tonight

Re: British Boxing

Sat May 25, 2013 11:22 pm

Froch by 3 rounds by me. I gave the closer rounds to Froch to cater in the bias as its in Britain.

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: British Boxing

Sat May 25, 2013 11:24 pm

Easily him, very tactical match but Froch won it for me in the early rounds and did enough

Re: British Boxing

Sat May 25, 2013 11:41 pm

Ward will beat Froch again.

Re: British Boxing

Sat May 25, 2013 11:43 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:Oh dear, getting quite embarrassing really.

First they put a nothing fight on before the main event to try and promote fighters when the fighters should be promoting themselves with their performances. This would never happen Stateside.

Then the referee jumps in within seconds to stop a fight - out of his depth.

Froch is one of a few fighters (Groves, Haye, Khan, Clev, etc.) keeping us on the boxing map to be fair. It really does need some investment though and a shake up. Time to bring boxing into schools and get rid of this health and safety bollocks.

Come on Froch, do it for Britain. :malky: :malky: :malky:

:old:


Interesting your point about bringing boxing into schools...
I think these days there is more interest in getting into mma than boxing with the kids.

Re: British Boxing

Sat May 25, 2013 11:44 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:Ward will beat Froch again.


I've rarely seen Froch fight but he honestly didnt impress me that much. I've never seen Ward fight though so couldnt say if they fought again

Re: British Boxing

Sat May 25, 2013 11:47 pm

cakey-8t7 wrote:Interesting your point about bringing boxing into schools...
I think these days there is more interest in getting into mma than boxing with the kids.


Im not a big fan of MMA, im pure pugilism to be fair and think boxing is more of a gentlemans sport. All this kicking, etc. to me is a bit thuggish but maybe im old fashioned. However, isn't boxing part of MMA? Bring MMA into schools and let children sign up for the disciplines they want. Surely its also a way to breed self confidence and self defence. Good idea in my opinion. I think sports should be part of the curriculum as strongly as they are infused in American culture where you need to do a sport/be a club member and do well academically and keep them both at a certain average to continue on.

:ayatollah:

Re: British Boxing

Sat May 25, 2013 11:50 pm

cakey-8t7 wrote:
All Black Everything. wrote:Oh dear, getting quite embarrassing really.

First they put a nothing fight on before the main event to try and promote fighters when the fighters should be promoting themselves with their performances. This would never happen Stateside.

Then the referee jumps in within seconds to stop a fight - out of his depth.

Froch is one of a few fighters (Groves, Haye, Khan, Clev, etc.) keeping us on the boxing map to be fair. It really does need some investment though and a shake up. Time to bring boxing into schools and get rid of this health and safety bollocks.

Come on Froch, do it for Britain. :malky: :malky: :malky:

:old:


Interesting your point about bringing boxing into schools...
I think these days there is more interest in getting into mma than boxing with the kids.


Boxing should definetly be brought into schools. I always wanted to do it.

You are right though that MMA has become increasingly popular however I would see it as a more difficult sport to teach people. You can learn the basics of MMA but you wont really reach a high standard unless you took time to learn from a variety of different Martial Arts

Re: British Boxing

Sun May 26, 2013 12:20 am

CjBluebird17 wrote:
Boxing should definetly be brought into schools. I always wanted to do it.

You are right though that MMA has become increasingly popular however I would see it as a more difficult sport to teach people. You can learn the basics of MMA but you wont really reach a high standard unless you took time to learn from a variety of different Martial Arts


I did it when I was younger and getting back into it at uni next year but I had to join a gym outside which costs money and some of the best fighters cant afford to pay that. I dont claim to be something special, more done to get me to a decent level where I know how to defend myself if needs be. Have had one or two idiots try it on in town and just crack them on the nose and they soon go away and that is why people should have this training in schools to protect themselves.

I do think schools need a shake up in and outside the classroom and other countries are embarrassing us at that level to be fair.

If it was MMA, then just the basics are fine and if they want to specialise they can then go to an external gym to make the jump from amateur to professional level.

Got some whopper now on Twitter from Nottingham claiming Ward (P4P No.2 and World Champion who's done Froch once whilst injured) should come to the UK and fight him. Laughable. If Froch was confident in his ability and confident he could beat Ward he'd go to America to prove it.

Re: British Boxing

Sun May 26, 2013 4:23 am

Smith was put on before the main fight as he was a filler. It happens in the big fights in the states as it does here. The big fights have a ring walk contracted in at a set time to optimise viewing figures. With the champions league final the same night in the same city, it was stupid to have the fight starting a few mins after the final whistle esp with the possibility of extra time. So instead of having no boxing for the fans to watch they throw in the fillers who just wait about over a few hrs to be told when there fight is on.

You don't see that it happens in the states or here that much as most of the time the fight isn't shown on tv, but callum smith is rated as the best of the smith brothers and by sky so was shown.

Smith would have had about 20mins notice into when he was fighting and all he would have knew is that he would have been filling in during the later tv fights.

Re: British Boxing

Sun May 26, 2013 11:26 am

personally I think british boxing is gaining momentum and on the rise once more, granted not as big as in past but certainly the best its been for quite some time, more british fighters getting in world title fights and good scraps, matchroom is putting poor shows on lately but the quality of boxers being produced lately is quite high but as of late a certain few have failed to perform in their last few fights but you cant argue with the quality which is being produced right now.

Re: British Boxing

Sun May 26, 2013 11:30 am

citybluechris wrote:personally I think british boxing is gaining momentum and on the rise once more, granted not as big as in past but certainly the best its been for quite some time, more british fighters getting in world title fights and good scraps, matchroom is putting poor shows on lately but the quality of boxers being produced lately is quite high but as of late a certain few have failed to perform in their last few fights but you cant argue with the quality which is being produced right now.


I agree alot of matchroom shows are poor, but its hard to match fighters sometimes. Eddie hearn is very good at keeping his fighters active and making sure they get paydays, and that brings paydays for himselve. the more he can do this, the more capital he has and the more he can plough into purse bids to make sure his fighters fight for belts where the his fighters want to fight for belts.

If barker, maklin and murray step up this year and get 2 belts between them which is more than 50/50 we could have a benn,eubank collins on the go..

Re: British Boxing

Sun May 26, 2013 11:42 am

Ramstein blue wrote:
citybluechris wrote:personally I think british boxing is gaining momentum and on the rise once more, granted not as big as in past but certainly the best its been for quite some time, more british fighters getting in world title fights and good scraps, matchroom is putting poor shows on lately but the quality of boxers being produced lately is quite high but as of late a certain few have failed to perform in their last few fights but you cant argue with the quality which is being produced right now.


I agree alot of matchroom shows are poor, but its hard to match fighters sometimes. Eddie hearn is very good at keeping his fighters active and making sure they get paydays, and that brings paydays for himselve. the more he can do this, the more capital he has and the more he can plough into purse bids to make sure his fighters fight for belts where the his fighters want to fight for belts.

If barker, maklin and murray step up this year and get 2 belts between them which is more than 50/50 we could have a benn,eubank collins on the go..


spot on agree 100%, people are to quick to put down british boxing because of few boxers performances but you only got to look at the Olympics and you got a lot of young exciting talent coming through the pro ranks, its not all about the froch, khan, cleverlys, look at barker macklin murray fury price bellew mcdonell Frampton quigg etc and that's just a few there are loads more, young talent is the best we have had in a long time people like yafai groves degale jazza stalker Camacho etc we got the potential to have a lot of European world title holders in next 5 years, everyone looks at America as the force but they are in decline, if you look at british boxing 5 years ago it was very poor but the ship is turning and we got a hell of a lot of talent coming through :ayatollah: