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fight this weekend 24-26 may 2013

Fri May 24, 2013 1:54 pm

ufc

Valasquez v silva

boxing

Carl Froch v Mikkel Kessler (WBA/IBF super-middleweight)
George Groves v Noe Gonzalez Alcoba
Tony Bellew v Isaac Chilemba
Omar Narvaez v Daniel Rosas (WBO super-featherweight)

predictions everyone? :malky: :malky:

Re: fight this weekend 24-26 may 2013

Fri May 24, 2013 2:19 pm

Not a huge UFC fight, know Valasquez more for fury trying to jump on his fame in the states.

Froch to beat kessler, late stoppage,
Groves KO,
Chilembam late 7-9 stoppage against bomber.

Dont know much about super feather, so couldnt give any prediction.

Re: fight this weekend 24-26 may 2013

Fri May 24, 2013 2:51 pm

Am a big UFC fan and just see Cain being to busy and just out grappling and wrestiling bigfoot... He wont be sloppy like overeem was and will have too much cardio and technique for bigfoot IMO. Cain KO with ground and pound in 2nd

And I gotta go with Froch, I think he is now in his Prime whereas I think Kessler is starting his decline... Think Froch KO in one of the late rounds...

Good weekend for the fight fan...

Re: fight this weekend 24-26 may 2013

Fri May 24, 2013 2:57 pm

where are people getting the idea that kessler is in decline? i dont get it? has only fought 3 times since beating froch and knocked the all out. Also only 33 and still has a few years left in him.

I think Froch might sneak it with the home advantage, but cant see a knockout in this one.

Re: fight this weekend 24-26 may 2013

Fri May 24, 2013 3:06 pm

You know what your right on Kessler.. It will be a real good fight, guess i was just judging with my Froch tinted glasses... :roll: :roll:

Re: fight this weekend 24-26 may 2013

Fri May 24, 2013 3:09 pm

paulh_85 wrote:where are people getting the idea that kessler is in decline? i dont get it? has only fought 3 times since beating froch and knocked the all out. Also only 33 and still has a few years left in him.

I think Froch might sneak it with the home advantage, but cant see a knockout in this one.


I dont think he is in his decline as much, its more that hes not fought anyone decent in a few years, and if its close, its alot easier to get a "home" points win even without home nation judges.

I wouldnt be supprised if kessler won, i just think froch will win, then get destroyed and outclassed by ward.

If kessler was less a warrior and more a tactical fighter, than i think hed win. Froch struggles with anyone who will move and mix things up. But hes got a chin like a granite table and will go toe to toe all day long

Re: fight this weekend 24-26 may 2013

Fri May 24, 2013 3:31 pm

Ramstein blue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:where are people getting the idea that kessler is in decline? i dont get it? has only fought 3 times since beating froch and knocked the all out. Also only 33 and still has a few years left in him.

I think Froch might sneak it with the home advantage, but cant see a knockout in this one.


I dont think he is in his decline as much, its more that hes not fought anyone decent in a few years, and if its close, its alot easier to get a "home" points win even without home nation judges.

I wouldnt be supprised if kessler won, i just think froch will win, then get destroyed and outclassed by ward.

If kessler was less a warrior and more a tactical fighter, than i think hed win. Froch struggles with anyone who will move and mix things up. But hes got a chin like a granite table and will go toe to toe all day long


In all three of his fights since Froch he has picked up a belt. In the Froch fight he picked up a belt too, the WBC belt.

His only 2 losses - Calzaghe - who many regard as a great - I dont but thats up to them and Andre Ward - tipped to be one of the next big things in America alongside Adrien Broner.

Yeah, really in decline. How is he going to fight the best again unless he picks up the belts and earns his place? The more belts he has the more he has to offer as people like Froch will want to take them from him. To be honest, I dont care who wins as the only interest I have in boxing at the moment is the other side of the pond in the USA and Southern America.

Broner, Ward, Alvarez, Matthysse, Quillin. They're the ones to be watching out for. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: fight this weekend 24-26 may 2013

Fri May 24, 2013 3:45 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:
Ramstein blue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:where are people getting the idea that kessler is in decline? i dont get it? has only fought 3 times since beating froch and knocked the all out. Also only 33 and still has a few years left in him.

I think Froch might sneak it with the home advantage, but cant see a knockout in this one.


I dont think he is in his decline as much, its more that hes not fought anyone decent in a few years, and if its close, its alot easier to get a "home" points win even without home nation judges.

I wouldnt be supprised if kessler won, i just think froch will win, then get destroyed and outclassed by ward.

If kessler was less a warrior and more a tactical fighter, than i think hed win. Froch struggles with anyone who will move and mix things up. But hes got a chin like a granite table and will go toe to toe all day long


In all three of his fights since Froch he has picked up a belt. In the Froch fight he picked up a belt too, the WBC belt.

His only 2 losses - Calzaghe - who many regard as a great - I dont but thats up to them and Andre Ward - tipped to be one of the next big things in America alongside Adrien Broner.

Yeah, really in decline. How is he going to fight the best again unless he picks up the belts and earns his place? The more belts he has the more he has to offer as people like Froch will want to take them from him. To be honest, I dont care who wins as the only interest I have in boxing at the moment is the other side of the pond in the USA and Southern America.

Broner, Ward, Alvarez, Matthysse, Quillin. They're the ones to be watching out for. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



You are a pleb arent you. I even said that hes not in decline... "dont think he is in his decline as much, its more that hes not fought anyone decent in a few years, and if its close, its alot easier to get a "home" points win even without home nation judges".

He didnt have to win belts or do anything to fight the best. he has a rep that would get him shots. Belts dont mean anywhere near as much these days as everyone has one. I personally would look to the ring magazine ratings and want to top that.

Apart from a very old Winky Wright, quillin has fought nobodies, and i can see a brit like Murray Macklin or barker taking his belt very soon. If Barker beats geale which is do-able, i can see a barker v quillin fight happening, esp as hearn thinks HBO are wanting Barker fighting on tv with them and stateside and quillin is HBO.

Personally i think Stateside boxing isnt that great to watch, having been to 6 fights in the states, i much prefer the atmosphere with fights in the UK, better and bigger crowds for all the fights bar the odd superfight. The calzaghe and hatton fights were great to watch but brit dominated in the crowds massively.

Re: fight this weekend 24-26 may 2013

Fri May 24, 2013 3:56 pm

Ramstein blue wrote:You are a pleb arent you. I even said that hes not in decline... "dont think he is in his decline as much, its more that hes not fought anyone decent in a few years, and if its close, its alot easier to get a "home" points win even without home nation judges".


I dont think he is in his decline as much < implying he is still in decline to some degree. Hes not in decline at all. :lol:

He didnt have to win belts or do anything to fight the best. he has a rep that would get him shots. Belts dont mean anywhere near as much these days as everyone has one. I personally would look to the ring magazine ratings and want to top that.


He lost to Andre Ward FFS. That set him back a bit. He lost his belt and never had any. He therefore had to reclimb back up the rankings. You dont just get gifted a top fight because you just lost to arguably one of the best fighters in the world.

Apart from a very old Winky Wright, quillin has fought nobodies, and i can see a brit like Murray Macklin or barker taking his belt very soon. If Barker beats geale which is do-able, i can see a barker v quillin fight happening, esp as hearn thinks HBO are wanting Barker fighting on tv with them and stateside and quillin is HBO.


Quillin is progressing slowly I'll admit but hes doing well and the nobodies talk is ridiculous considering everyone in the UK is realistically fighting nobodies. Kell Brook? Nobodies. Khan, Rees and Murray the only 3 who've done anything of real credit. Khan is known. Murray beat by Martinez and Rees beat by Broner. Broner said it himself, who the heck is Gavin Rees? Khan is probably the one they know most about and even he has been done in. Could he sort it out? Probably and Kell Brook could probably do well over there too but the simple fact is British boxing currently is laughable in comparison to Stateside boxing.

Personally i think Stateside boxing isnt that great to watch, having been to 6 fights in the states, i much prefer the atmosphere with fights in the UK, better and bigger crowds for all the fights bar the odd superfight. The calzaghe and hatton fights were great to watch but brit dominated in the crowds massively.


Calzaghe and the Hatton era are done and gone, things of the past, and that is something we must accept. American boxing is on the up and there are numerous talents out there who make our boxers look schoolboy in comparison. When I say American, I mean stateside and southern. The Calzaghe, Lewis, Hatton eras of boxing were great but I wish people would stop clinging on to them.

But yeah, just keep resorting to calling me a pleb if it helps your argument. :thumbright:

Re: fight this weekend 24-26 may 2013

Fri May 24, 2013 5:19 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:
Ramstein blue wrote:You are a pleb arent you. I even said that hes not in decline... "dont think he is in his decline as much, its more that hes not fought anyone decent in a few years, and if its close, its alot easier to get a "home" points win even without home nation judges".


I dont think he is in his decline as much < implying he is still in decline to some degree. Hes not in decline at all. :lol:

Read what I typed and why I typed it...it was typed as other said he was in decline. I alluded that he's not in decline, just ring rusty against top opponents.

He didnt have to win belts or do anything to fight the best. he has a rep that would get him shots. Belts dont mean anywhere near as much these days as everyone has one. I personally would look to the ring magazine ratings and want to top that.


He lost to Andre Ward FFS. That set him back a bit. He lost his belt and never had any. He therefore had to reclimb back up the rankings. You dont just get gifted a top fight because you just lost to arguably one of the best fighters in the world.


Top fighters normally have 1 tune up and jump back in against a top name, even if they aren't champ.


Apart from a very old Winky Wright, quillin has fought nobodies, and i can see a brit like Murray Macklin or barker taking his belt very soon. If Barker beats geale which is do-able, i can see a barker v quillin fight happening, esp as hearn thinks HBO are wanting Barker fighting on tv with them and stateside and quillin is HBO.


Quillin is progressing slowly I'll admit but hes doing well and the nobodies talk is ridiculous considering everyone in the UK is realistically fighting nobodies. Kell Brook? Nobodies. Khan, Rees and Murray the only 3 who've done anything of real credit. Khan is known. Murray beat by Martinez and Rees beat by Broner. Broner said it himself, who the heck is Gavin Rees? Khan is probably the one they know most about and even he has been done in. Could he sort it out? Probably and Kell Brook could probably do well over there too but the simple fact is British boxing currently is laughable in comparison to Stateside boxing.
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The states is only the be all and end all due o pay days not quality. US people don't know our PM never mind boxers, it doesn't matter if they say they've never heard of them, brook beat nobodies, khan is a name as you said, and Rees beat a very good fighter for his belt and was punching above his weight at that level. W aren't going to have as many top fighters as we are a smaller nation.

Personally i think Stateside boxing isnt that great to watch, having been to 6 fights in the states, i much prefer the atmosphere with fights in the UK, better and bigger crowds for all the fights bar the odd superfight. The calzaghe and hatton fights were great to watch but brit dominated in the crowds massively.[/quote]

Calzaghe and the Hatton era are done and gone, things of the past, and that is something we must accept. American boxing is on the up and there are numerous talents out there who make our boxers look schoolboy in comparison. When I say American, I mean stateside and southern. The Calzaghe, Lewis, Hatton eras of boxing were great but I wish people would stop clinging on to them.

But yeah, just keep resorting to calling me a pleb if it helps your argument. :thumbright:[/quote]

I watched Joe and Hatton in the states and the atmosphere was good due to Brit fans, when I was at Atlantic city a few years ago, I watched a championship fight with a 2000 crowd and thousands of empty seats.

Brits sell far better than the us fighters, people get caught up with the MGM and navada casinos,but uk fights un stadiums and the O2 are much better, as are fights in Germany in hamburg and Mannheim.

Mexicans will sell out, and argies might against a top fighter because they don't have many top boxers. But Americans are boring crowds and boring fights.