Thu May 23, 2013 2:45 pm
I would like to know when did the people of this country vote to get rid of our proud history, culture and fight /stand up for what is right attitude?
Who took it away from us?
It has been replaced with multiculturalism. How could anyone justify it as being a good thing for our country.
I grew up in a Christian society where we generally lived in peace with our neighbours and looked out for each other. Now most people are afraid to go out after dark, cannot say what they like or believe in their own country and its laws.
Immigrants in the past came here to work, and better themselves (many of them did) and to make a safe home for their families. They came here because they felt safe and were protected by British Christian laws, that they accepted (whatever their own religion) and in the vast majority of cases lived in peace with the indigenous population. Many of them worked hard and did well for themselves.
Today the immigrants come here to scrounge off us, bleeding our economy dry with benefit claims, straining our health services to breaking point, overloading our education system and undermining our safety and security.
If these people do not like our laws, society, beliefs etc. then why do they stay here? If Islam is a peaceful religion, why are they coming here to escape Sharia law? They demand we change our stable, historical, legal and basically free society to replace it with their backward, discriminatory, non-acceptance of others beliefs, just to suit them.
Lastly, why in a multi-cultural society is it always the muslims who seem to have the problems getting on with everyone else?
How many Sikhs, Hindus, Jews, Catholics, Jehovah Witnesses, Buddhists, do you see threatening other religions/members of society? They have settled here in their millions, accepted (and been accepted) our laws, religion and freedoms. Why cannot the religion of peace do that? I would say it is because it is not a religion of peace, but a society/ political ideology/religion that is not accepting of anyone other than those who will bow and scrape to their backward and evil beliefs.
To all muslims, either get out of our country and let the rest of us live in peace , or root out the sick evil ones amongst your people and kick them out of the country. The rest of us would then be free to know we will not be attacked, beheaded or blown up while trying to just get on with our lives, working to look after our families and loved ones. I am sure no British people will care then how much you persecute each other, rape and abuse women and children, behead or stone anyone who tries to educate women, or give them any say in their lives, (like how they dress). In Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan you can carry on massacring each other safe in the knowledge we have no interest in helping the innocents there.
Thu May 23, 2013 2:47 pm
You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD
Thu May 23, 2013 3:03 pm
When I went to Sydney in '99 it was a couple of years before the then Blair-government welcomed anyone and everyone and even then in Sydney there were huge issues between the different communities in the suburbs.
I never forget saying to friends then that thank god back hom we dont have areas which are like gettos and can be discribed as the 'Lebanesse area' or 'Korean area' because the problems where that people would always be attracted to areas within cities where they are comfitable in. Then if/when issues arrise you have these communities fighting almost each other.
Now that was 1999 and yet the then Government refused to learn from problems in outskirts of other large world cities because all they wanted to do was to make sure that the Labour Government was in for decades to come by social engineering this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... viser.html
Thu May 23, 2013 3:14 pm
CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

Agreed. This country has a history of rape, pillaging and blood on its hands. Hardly anything to be proud of.
Thu May 23, 2013 3:19 pm
All Black Everything. wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

Agreed. This country has a history of rape, pillaging and blood on its hands. Hardly anything to be proud of.
bloody hell......that was 200 years ago......
Thu May 23, 2013 3:21 pm
krabb wrote:All Black Everything. wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

Agreed. This country has a history of rape, pillaging and blood on its hands. Hardly anything to be proud of.
bloody hell......that was 200 years ago......
and yes im proud to be british
Thu May 23, 2013 3:22 pm
Every country has a chequered history if you go back far enough... Except maybe switzerland
Thu May 23, 2013 3:23 pm
CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

And where would this places be if Great Britian hadn't travelled the globe..? Australia, New Zealand, India, Hong Kong, Falklands and others have had their infrastructure boasted hugely because of British rule and wouldn't be half as strong now then had Britian not ruled for a time. The vast majority of the countries are still in the Commonwealth because they understand it is better for them to still be in that group of nations
Thu May 23, 2013 3:24 pm
krabb wrote:krabb wrote:All Black Everything. wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

Agreed. This country has a history of rape, pillaging and blood on its hands. Hardly anything to be proud of.
bloody hell......that was 200 years ago......
and yes im proud to be british
Still happened. You cant sweep it under the rug.
Thu May 23, 2013 3:32 pm
All Black Everything. wrote:krabb wrote:krabb wrote:All Black Everything. wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

Agreed. This country has a history of rape, pillaging and blood on its hands. Hardly anything to be proud of.
bloody hell......that was 200 years ago......
and yes im proud to be british
Still happened. You cant sweep it under the rug.
who is sweeping it under the carpet...its called history,and as above every country has a history.....but what you are missing is all of the immigrants that have entered this country have come on their own free will...not rounded up as slaves...and they need to except that if they are not happy then they have every right to f@ck off....simple
Thu May 23, 2013 3:33 pm
Angry Man wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

And where would this places be if Great Britian hadn't travelled the globe..? Australia, New Zealand, India, Hong Kong, Falklands and others have had their infrastructure boasted hugely because of British rule and wouldn't be half as strong now then had Britian not ruled for a time. The vast majority of the countries are still in the Commonwealth because they understand it is better for them to still be in that group of nations
Seems like people only want to remember the bad things the british empire got up to but conveniently forget all the good things that came out of the british empire which probably outweighs all the bad Lol yes, we have a dubious past, but hasn't every country.
Thu May 23, 2013 3:37 pm
All Black Everything. wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

Agreed. This country has a history of rape, pillaging and blood on its hands. Hardly anything to be proud of.
Whilst our history includes acts that we should be ashamed of, we have been and still are the torch bearer for freedom and democracy. One of our key differentiators is that as a civilised society we learnt from past mistakes and via a democratic process of govenment and the implementation of a balanced and well informed education system, we understand right from wrong and are free to make choices in terms of how our nation develops. As a result we are now one of the most peaceful and tolerant nations in the world.
Christianity may not hold sway any more, but many christian beliefs still form the foundation of our laws and way of life, and they ensure our moral compass guides us more towards peace than conflict.
We have to our credit chosen a path of acceptance and tolerance, only for a minority of those we tolerate and accept, to turn on us because they believe our balanced democratic beliefs to be weak and evil. They are only accepting of their way and are blinded by extremism and unable to debate, understand any other viewpoints or form a balanced opinion. For any nation/s to live in peace, they have to be prepared to compromise in some way, but for them, there is no compromise.
We must always take the moral high ground when confronted by any groups or individuals that are intolerant of the freedoms and way of life that they now benefit from. The choice should be simple, accept our nations laws and freedoms, or seek an alternative country that will be open or willing to conform to your wishes.
Thu May 23, 2013 3:38 pm
mr'mogreenz wrote:Angry Man wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

And where would this places be if Great Britian hadn't travelled the globe..? Australia, New Zealand, India, Hong Kong, Falklands and others have had their infrastructure boasted hugely because of British rule and wouldn't be half as strong now then had Britian not ruled for a time. The vast majority of the countries are still in the Commonwealth because they understand it is better for them to still be in that group of nations
Seems like people only want to remember the bad things the british empire got up to but conveniently forget all the good things that came out of the british empire which probably outweighs all the bad Lol yes, we have a dubious past, but hasn't every country.
Yes these are people with an agenda. There was a programme about the Indian Rail network on the other day which was all set-up by the British and they admitted that it would be no chance of the modern day Indian boom if the rail infrastructure hadn't already been set-up by the British.
Two other areas are Burma and Zimbabwe as well as many others, I wonder if the indigenous population would prefer their recent governments than when in British rule..? As far more people were killed when they were under indigenous rule!!!
Thu May 23, 2013 3:42 pm
All Black Everything. wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

Agreed. This country has a history of rape, pillaging and blood on its hands. Hardly anything to be proud of.
So why dont you move to a better country then ?
Thu May 23, 2013 3:46 pm
shinyBlueGlue wrote:All Black Everything. wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

Agreed. This country has a history of rape, pillaging and blood on its hands. Hardly anything to be proud of.
So why dont you move to a better country then ?
Once I have finished university I will be moving to another country dont worry.
Thu May 23, 2013 3:49 pm
All Black Everything. wrote:shinyBlueGlue wrote:All Black Everything. wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

Agreed. This country has a history of rape, pillaging and blood on its hands. Hardly anything to be proud of.
So why dont you move to a better country then ?
Once I have finished university I will be moving to another country dont worry.
Good f**k off, i will pack your bags for you. a man dies, his family has to deal with it and all you can think of is defending islam and muslims.
Thu May 23, 2013 3:57 pm
shinyBlueGlue wrote:All Black Everything. wrote:shinyBlueGlue wrote:All Black Everything. wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

Agreed. This country has a history of rape, pillaging and blood on its hands. Hardly anything to be proud of.
So why dont you move to a better country then ?
Once I have finished university I will be moving to another country dont worry.
Good f**k off, i will pack your bags for you. a man dies, his family has to deal with it and all you can think of is defending islam and muslims.
YEAH! LETS ROUND UP EVERY MUSLIM AND BURN THEM!!!
THEN, AS MARK BRIDGER IS WELSH, LETS ROUND UP EVERY WELSHMAN AND KILL THEM
TERRY SUTCLIFFE WAS A YORKSHIREMAN, SO LETS KILL ALL THEM.
Thu May 23, 2013 3:59 pm
All Black Everything. wrote:shinyBlueGlue wrote:All Black Everything. wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:You lost all credibility when you said "PROUD HISTORY"
Great Britain founded slavery
We used to travel the globe, sticking flags in other countries and claiming them for our own, then enslaving the indigenous population.
PROUD

Agreed. This country has a history of rape, pillaging and blood on its hands. Hardly anything to be proud of.
So why dont you move to a better country then ?
Once I have finished university I will be moving to another country dont worry.
So if this country is so bad then why are you USING its University system then..?
Thu May 23, 2013 4:06 pm
craigccfc what the f**k are you on about
Thu May 23, 2013 4:09 pm
shinyBlueGlue wrote:craigccfc what the f**k are you on about
well, you have banded all muslims together, so im using your logic and applying it to other criminals in our society.
Thu May 23, 2013 4:11 pm
CraigCCFC wrote:shinyBlueGlue wrote:craigccfc what the f**k are you on about
well, you have banded all muslims together, so im using your logic and applying it to other criminals in our society.
I have not branded no one together ? Not once have i said all muslims are this or that
Thu May 23, 2013 4:14 pm
CraigCCFC wrote:shinyBlueGlue wrote:craigccfc what the f**k are you on about
well, you have banded all muslims together, so im using your logic and applying it to other criminals in our society.
briger and sutcliffe are f@cked up individuals.....murdering for their own gains......not millions of people together wanting to take revenge in the name of religion...
Thu May 23, 2013 4:34 pm
shinyBlueGlue wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:shinyBlueGlue wrote:craigccfc what the f**k are you on about
well, you have banded all muslims together, so im using your logic and applying it to other criminals in our society.
I have not branded no one together ? Not once have i said all muslims are this or that
Stop it or our resident guardian readership will start crying. Perhaps Craig and all black everything should look at this
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_StatisticsSeems extremist views are not all that uncommon?
Thu May 23, 2013 4:55 pm
Social experiment gone wrong, close the borders now and we can sort this mess out in 5 years before opening them again with a proper system in place. They don't like us, we don't like them.
Thu May 23, 2013 4:58 pm
If it wasn't for multicultralism we would have even more narrow minded, ignorant pigs such as the EDL in our society. As a result of multicultralism, I have friends from all sorts of area's around the world and have also benefited from being more cultured and open minded as an individual.
Multicultralism also allows people to judge people as individuals no matter what their skin colour or ethnicity is. We have also benefited from the more simple things in life such as different types of food and resteraunts etc.
For me multicultralism helps individuals grow as people and gives us an insight on other aspects of life. Things we may think are important won't be as important for other people and it gives you a sense of what is important in life.
It does also have it negatives but overall multicultralism is good in my opinion.
Thu May 23, 2013 4:58 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Social experiment gone wrong, close the borders now and we can sort this mess out in 5 years before opening them again with a proper system in place. They don't like us, we don't like them.
We? You. Dont speak for me, im not a prejudiced nor a racist and dont wish to be associated with any racists nor prejudiced individuals.
Thu May 23, 2013 5:05 pm
bluedragons wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Social experiment gone wrong, close the borders now and we can sort this mess out in 5 years before opening them again with a proper system in place. They don't like us, we don't like them.
We? You. Dont speak for me, im not a prejudiced nor a racist and dont wish to be associated with any racists nor prejudiced individuals.
Who to say he is racist ?
Thu May 23, 2013 5:12 pm
Angry Man wrote:So if this country is so bad then why are you USING its University system then..?
1. I am currently here and its easier for me to do so
2. The education system is actually regarded quite well globally although that is not the be all and end all of life after education so once my education is done I shall move to a country where I want to settle
3. I paid thousands and thousands in tax working before I started university at the age of 20 and I am not entitled to all of the loans and so forth - only the lowest form of loan
4. I can move abroad and quite happily pay back my loan by setting up a direct debit with SFW whilst living a country I want to live in and will be happier living in
5. Nowhere did I state the university system was bad. Britain does some good things but no I dont want to live here for the rest of my life and upon finishing university I will be leaving like plenty of other graduates do. I'll be paying it back dont worry Brownie, SFW will make sure of that.
Now sit back and enjoy your holiday in Ibiza.
Thu May 23, 2013 5:15 pm
bluedragons wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Social experiment gone wrong, close the borders now and we can sort this mess out in 5 years before opening them again with a proper system in place. They don't like us, we don't like them.
We? You. Dont speak for me, im not a prejudiced nor a racist and dont wish to be associated with any racists nor prejudiced individuals.
I'm not racist, prejudice just a realist. I count some muslims as my friends, however these people integrate into our society while also following their beliefs.I don't like those that segregate themselves, that's the issue here. They don't want to mix, they don't like us and it is those people that I do not like.