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Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:57 am

It seems illogical to me to be bouncing around enjoying the promotion party and then when Vincent Tan came on yesterday, there were big chants of "we'll always be blue". It was clearly ridiculous when half the fans were dressed in red, and the team were playing in red :?

The key point however is that without VT, there would have have no promotion party for anyone to enjoy.

I fully respect the fans who have decided to stay away because of the change of colour as they are consistent.

I would even respect fans if they had made a protest by deciding not to celebrate the promotion because it had been done with VT's money and in the colour red. (Either decided in droves not to turn up yesterday or deliberatly not celebrated the promotion).

What I personally have no respect for are the fans who are happy to jump on VT's bandwagon for all the great things he brings, but then want to chant against him and the colour at the same time.

By all means chant against him & the colour, but don't then celebrate the success he's brought, as that is pure hypocrisy :oops:

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:59 am

Just letting him know our feelings. We weren't exactly abusing him, we're we? :thumbright:

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:00 pm

CantonJack wrote:Just letting him know our feelings. We weren't exactly abusing him, we're we? :thumbright:

If you joined in with the celebrations though, a tad hypocritical.

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:05 pm

Every person inside CCS yesterday has accepted the rebrand (that doesnt mean they have to like it though) whether they like to admit it or not.

Difference between us is some write that they are dead against it on here but im afraid actions speak louder than words.

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:06 pm

Maybe people think that VT is only hearing false information about fans acceptance that they wanted to tell them their feelings more directly. Good on them I say :malky:

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:11 pm

Die Walkure wrote:It seems illogical to me to be bouncing around enjoying the promotion party and then when Vincent Tan came on yesterday, there were big chants of "we'll always be blue". It was clearly ridiculous when half the fans were dressed in red, and the team were playing in red :?

The key point however is that without VT, there would have have no promotion party for anyone to enjoy.

I fully respect the fans who have decided to stay away because of the change of colour as they are consistent.

I would even respect fans if they had made a protest by deciding not to celebrate the promotion because it had been done with VT's money and in the colour red. (Either decided in droves not to turn up yesterday or deliberatly not celebrated the promotion).

What I personally have no respect for are the fans who are happy to jump on VT's bandwagon for all the great things he brings, but then want to chant against him and the colour at the same time.

By all means chant against him & the colour, but don't then celebrate the success he's brought, as that is pure hypocrisy :oops:

I'd say the majority were definitely wearing blue. Red just stands out more which makes it seem like there are more people wearing red in the stadium.

"We'll always be blue" ringing around the stadium when VT walked onto the pitch proved a lot of people wrong yesterday.

We all love Cardiff City, we all want this club to be successful so of course we're going to celebrate promotion to the Premier League. But we'll always be blue. :ayatollah:

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:11 pm

Angry Man wrote:Maybe people think that VT is only hearing false information about fans acceptance that they wanted to tell them their feelings more directly. Good on them I say :malky:

I think VT will be well aware of the views of the minority who are living in the past, as I'm sure you know.

I suspect his reaction will be to laugh at the people who did that yesterday, as he will know that they're playing to his tune by still attending and putting money into his plans - I just lost respect for the people who did it, that's all. It won't change anything, and I think they're hypocrites.

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:17 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Every person inside CCS yesterday has accepted the rebrand (that doesnt mean they have to like it though) whether they like to admit it or not.

Difference between us is some write that they are dead against it on here but im afraid actions speak louder than words.


Every person has the right to support their team. This means they have to pay for the honour. No way around that.

Because people disagree with the board does not mean they have to stop going.

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:18 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Every person inside CCS yesterday has accepted the rebrand (that doesnt mean they have to like it though) whether they like to admit it or not.

Difference between us is some write that they are dead against it on here but im afraid actions speak louder than words.


Every person has the right to support their team. This means they have to pay for the honour. No way around that.

Because people disagree with the board does not mean they have to stop going.

Exactly.

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:22 pm

Best chant of the day. :malky:

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:24 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Every person inside CCS yesterday has accepted the rebrand (that doesnt mean they have to like it though) whether they like to admit it or not.

Difference between us is some write that they are dead against it on here but im afraid actions speak louder than words.


Every person has the right to support their team. This means they have to pay for the honour. No way around that.

Because people disagree with the board does not mean they have to stop going.

The whole arguement about the rebrand though is its not our team anymore?? Thats what keeps getting thrown about.

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:26 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Every person inside CCS yesterday has accepted the rebrand (that doesnt mean they have to like it though) whether they like to admit it or not.

Difference between us is some write that they are dead against it on here but im afraid actions speak louder than words.


Every person has the right to support their team. This means they have to pay for the honour. No way around that.

Because people disagree with the board does not mean they have to stop going.

Spot on :malky:

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:27 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Every person inside CCS yesterday has accepted the rebrand (that doesnt mean they have to like it though) whether they like to admit it or not.

Difference between us is some write that they are dead against it on here but im afraid actions speak louder than words.


Every person has the right to support their team. This means they have to pay for the honour. No way around that.

Because people disagree with the board does not mean they have to stop going.

I agree with that, and have been vocal in saying that all year - and that I want all our loyal fans to remain with us, even if they find it very hard to do so because of the colour change.

My point was what VT was likely to think and made in resposne to Angry Man's post, where he said VT may not be aware of the views of tbe pro-blue lobby.

What I find hypocritical however is the celebrating of the success (which has only come about because of VT's money) and at the same time singing songs against him - that is rank hypocrisy!

I would have respected fans who turned up yestersday - refused to celebrate but sang pro blue songs instead - but to celebrate what VT's money has achieved at the same time as singing that was hypocritical, in my view.

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:30 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:Best chant of the day. :malky:

I can understand that as a fair point, for those of the pro-blue disposition.

However, did you celebrate the promotion at the same time?

If you did, you're a hypocrite, in my view.

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:30 pm

Die Walkure wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Every person inside CCS yesterday has accepted the rebrand (that doesnt mean they have to like it though) whether they like to admit it or not.

Difference between us is some write that they are dead against it on here but im afraid actions speak louder than words.


Every person has the right to support their team. This means they have to pay for the honour. No way around that.

Because people disagree with the board does not mean they have to stop going.

I agree with that, and have been vocal in saying that all year - and that I want all our loyal fans to remain with us, even if they find it very hard to do so because of the colour change.

My point was what VT was likely to think and made in resposne to Angry Man's post, where he said VT may not be aware of the views of tbe pro-blue lobby.

What I find hypocritical however is the celebrating of the success (which has only come about because of VT's money) and at the same time singing songs against him - that is rank hypocrisy!

I would have respected fans who turned up yestersday - refused to celebrate but sang pro blue songs instead - but to celebrate what VT's money has achieved at the same time as singing that was hypocritical, in my view.


Who the hell made you Rebrand Prime Minister?

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:31 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Every person inside CCS yesterday has accepted the rebrand (that doesnt mean they have to like it though) whether they like to admit it or not.

Difference between us is some write that they are dead against it on here but im afraid actions speak louder than words.


Every person has the right to support their team. This means they have to pay for the honour. No way around that.

Because people disagree with the board does not mean they have to stop going.

The whole arguement about the rebrand though is its not our team anymore?? Thats what keeps getting thrown about.

correct

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:32 pm

Die Walkure wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:Best chant of the day. :malky:

I can understand that as a fair point, for those of the pro-blue disposition.

However, did you celebrate the promotion at the same time?

If you did, you're a hypocrite, in my view.

I couldn't give a f**k for your view I don't even know you.

I've supported this club 20 years before VT turned up so yes I did celebrate promotion thank you very much.

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:33 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
Die Walkure wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Every person inside CCS yesterday has accepted the rebrand (that doesnt mean they have to like it though) whether they like to admit it or not.

Difference between us is some write that they are dead against it on here but im afraid actions speak louder than words.


Every person has the right to support their team. This means they have to pay for the honour. No way around that.

Because people disagree with the board does not mean they have to stop going.

I agree with that, and have been vocal in saying that all year - and that I want all our loyal fans to remain with us, even if they find it very hard to do so because of the colour change.

My point was what VT was likely to think and made in resposne to Angry Man's post, where he said VT may not be aware of the views of tbe pro-blue lobby.

What I find hypocritical however is the celebrating of the success (which has only come about because of VT's money) and at the same time singing songs against him - that is rank hypocrisy!

I would have respected fans who turned up yestersday - refused to celebrate but sang pro blue songs instead - but to celebrate what VT's money has achieved at the same time as singing that was hypocritical, in my view.


Who the hell made you Rebrand Prime Minister?

Nobody Polo - just expressing my views - surely you accept I've got the right to do that?

Perhaps you don't like the logic I'm using?

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:33 pm

To be honest many who went to the game and were in the pub afterwards were saying that it was very loud and by far the best chant of the day

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:35 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:
Die Walkure wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:Best chant of the day. :malky:

I can understand that as a fair point, for those of the pro-blue disposition.

However, did you celebrate the promotion at the same time?

If you did, you're a hypocrite, in my view.

I couldn't give a f**k for your view I don't even know you.

I've supported this club 20 years before VT turned up so yes I did celebrate promotion thank you very much.

I didn't think you would - but I'm entitled to express my views on here Polo - as you often so colourfully do.

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:35 pm

Die Walkure wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:
Die Walkure wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Every person inside CCS yesterday has accepted the rebrand (that doesnt mean they have to like it though) whether they like to admit it or not.

Difference between us is some write that they are dead against it on here but im afraid actions speak louder than words.


Every person has the right to support their team. This means they have to pay for the honour. No way around that.

Because people disagree with the board does not mean they have to stop going.

I agree with that, and have been vocal in saying that all year - and that I want all our loyal fans to remain with us, even if they find it very hard to do so because of the colour change.

My point was what VT was likely to think and made in resposne to Angry Man's post, where he said VT may not be aware of the views of tbe pro-blue lobby.

What I find hypocritical however is the celebrating of the success (which has only come about because of VT's money) and at the same time singing songs against him - that is rank hypocrisy!

I would have respected fans who turned up yestersday - refused to celebrate but sang pro blue songs instead - but to celebrate what VT's money has achieved at the same time as singing that was hypocritical, in my view.


Who the hell made you Rebrand Prime Minister?

Nobody Polo - just expressing my views - surely you accept I've got the right to do that?

Perhaps you don't like the logic I'm using?


There is no logic it's just nonsensical jibber jabber

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:38 pm

Mario Polotelli wrote:There is no logic it's just nonsensical jibber jabber

Come on Polo, I thought you could do better than that.

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:40 pm

Die Walkure wrote:
Mario Polotelli wrote:There is no logic it's just nonsensical jibber jabber

Come on Polo, I thought you could do better than that.

If you celebrate promotion you can't sing about being blue???

No logic whatsoever I am afraid

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:46 pm

The chant wasn't abusive by any means, I even sung it because to me we will be. I can't wait for next season, a stadium full of Cardiff fans who have accepted the red and let bygones be bygones. Today was the last home match for the anti reds and I respect that, next season we won't have this bickering about the rebrand.

Actions speak louder than words.

:old:

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:48 pm

Excellent post and i have to %100 agree,it just shows how embarrassing some fans can be! as that behaviour just shows them for what they really are,as far back as i can remember i have never been able to endure a hypocrite .

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:50 pm

T-G-I-ROBINFRIDAY wrote:Excellent post and i have to %100 agree,it just shows how embarrassing some fans can be! as that behaviour just shows them for what they really are,as far back as i can remember i have never been able to endure a hypocrite .


Yet you are posting on a CCFC forum which refuses to change to the current colour. Surely supporting this forum is hypocritial of you then..?

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:56 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:The chant wasn't abusive by any means, I even sung it because to me we will be. I can't wait for next season, a stadium full of Cardiff fans who have accepted the red and let bygones be bygones. Today was the last home match for the anti reds and I respect that, next season we won't have this bickering about the rebrand.

Actions speak louder than words.

:old:

I accept it wasn't abusive, and VT seemed to be fine with it (as he was at the dinner as well), but it just seemed hypocritical to me, that's all.

I think you're right about next year though 1948 - the bickering will hopefully be gone by then.

As for Polo's point, I wasn't saying people can't celebrate promotion and sing pro blue songs - my point was that the fact it was it was done at the same time made it hypocritical - just my view.

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:56 pm

Angry Man wrote:
T-G-I-ROBINFRIDAY wrote:Excellent post and i have to %100 agree,it just shows how embarrassing some fans can be! as that behaviour just shows them for what they really are,as far back as i can remember i have never been able to endure a hypocrite .


Yet you are posting on a CCFC forum which refuses to change to the current colour. Surely supporting this forum is hypocritial of you then..?


I saw you yesterday Adam, almost had a heart attack as I thought you were going to the game!!

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:58 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:The chant wasn't abusive by any means, I even sung it because to me we will be. I can't wait for next season, a stadium full of Cardiff fans who have accepted the red and let bygones be bygones. Today was the last home match for the anti reds and I respect that, next season we won't have this bickering about the rebrand.

Actions speak louder than words.

:old:

I'm an anti-red and I'll be here next season. :ayatollah:

Discussions over the rebrand will never end.

Re: Our fans can be hypocritical

Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:01 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
T-G-I-ROBINFRIDAY wrote:Excellent post and i have to %100 agree,it just shows how embarrassing some fans can be! as that behaviour just shows them for what they really are,as far back as i can remember i have never been able to endure a hypocrite .


Yet you are posting on a CCFC forum which refuses to change to the current colour. Surely supporting this forum is hypocritial of you then..?


I saw you yesterday Adam, almost had a heart attack as I thought you were going to the game!!


You should have come to say 'hi', I really enjoyed yesterday with all the old faces being out and about