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Could Sam buy out VT?

Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:42 pm

I have no idea of Sam's worth...but around 30% of the debt s owed to Sam, so would he have enough to take on the remainder of the debt, transfer it to equity and have enough to take the club forward?

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:44 pm

No :ayatollah:

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:44 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22311315

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Fri Apr 26, 2013 11:46 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22311315


Great...thanks!

Didn't know if this could be an exit strategy for VT, but I think he'll like the bright lights of the premiership!

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:17 am

Would be a little like like your local greengrocer store trying to buy out WalMart :o

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:26 am

It would probably take a little more than what tan has put in. I think Tan would accept £55m - £60m plus advertising for a year.

The club is currently costing Tan £20m a year to keep afloat. If he can duck out with a decent sized profit then he can walk away as a success. If Sam or a Sam fronted consortium can stump up that then a simple switch back to blue would get everyone behind him and we have Sam the hero guiding us in the premier league which is what he's wanted from day 1.

It makes sense and everyone is happy. Tan gets his cash, Sam gets his prem club and the fans get blue.

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:38 am

Ninian_Spark wrote:It would probably take a little more than what tan has put in. I think Tan would accept £55m - £60m plus advertising for a year.

The club is currently costing Tan £20m a year to keep afloat. If he can duck out with a decent sized profit then he can walk away as a success. If Sam or a Sam fronted consortium can stump up that then a simple switch back to blue would get everyone behind him and we have Sam the hero guiding us in the premier league which is what he's wanted from day 1.

It makes sense and everyone is happy. Tan gets his cash, Sam gets his prem club and the fans get blue.


How much profit did the former QPR owners make after they got promotion..?

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:49 am

Broke even I think, don't quote me on that though.

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:57 am

Ninian_Spark wrote:Broke even I think, don't quote me on that though.


yeah seem that youare right mate

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:07 am

T-G-I-ROBINFRIDAY wrote:Would be a little like like your local greengrocer store trying to buy out WalMart :o


I wish they did. The prices in ASDA in Pontprennau are absolutely shocking. Could do with a massive Happy Shopper or a Londis.

You knows it makes sense. :old:

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:18 am

Ninian_Spark wrote:It would probably take a little more than what tan has put in. I think Tan would accept £55m - £60m plus advertising for a year.

The club is currently costing Tan £20m a year to keep afloat. If he can duck out with a decent sized profit then he can walk away as a success. If Sam or a Sam fronted consortium can stump up that then a simple switch back to blue would get everyone behind him and we have Sam the hero guiding us in the premier league which is what he's wanted from day 1.

It makes sense and everyone is happy. Tan gets his cash, Sam gets his prem club and the fans get blue.


And you forgot to add relegation and Sam pocketing the parachute payments, the difference between the two is VT plans lie in generating a brand to merchandise Sam's plan is all about Sam

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:14 am

£55-£60m would mean a loss to Tan of £10-£15m on his loans so far. He also won't need to put any money in next year so I'm thinking £90-£100m is the crazy offer he'd be looking for.

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:19 am

sam is skint

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:26 am

f**king NO thanks

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:26 am

dear god what is wrong with that club of yours it's like a bloody soap opera ! can't you just have a bit of good news and enjoy it without having a drama always lurking around the corner to ruin the happiness , you've got more plot twists than eastenders ffs

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:45 am

waddle wrote:dear god what is wrong with that club of yours it's like a bloody soap opera ! can't you just have a bit of good news and enjoy it without having a drama always lurking around the corner to ruin the happiness , you've got more plot twists than eastenders ffs

Only you Jerks are getting wound up about it. We're living the dream.
Whilst your season pales away into insignificance we're planning for one hell of a party with all 27000 invites sent out and accepted.
:malky:

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:35 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: NO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:04 am

pauly_gee wrote:I have no idea of Sam's worth...but around 30% of the debt s owed to Sam, so would he have enough to take on the remainder of the debt, transfer it to equity and have enough to take the club forward?



With what f*cking buttons :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:16 am

TopCat CCFC wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22311315

im sure all club owners keep their manager in the loop about what their business plans are, it seems very naïve for malky to come out with that.
Its more likely that malky is just doing a bit more brown nosing and praying that the VT/SAM H conglomerate aren't planning to replace him with a proven Premier League Manager, after all the weak link in the chain is MM at the moment ;)

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:32 am

Gowerjack wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22311315

im sure all club owners keep their manager in the loop about what their business plans are, it seems very naïve for malky to come out with that.
Its more likely that malky is just doing a bit more brown nosing and praying that the VT/SAM H conglomerate aren't planning to replace him with a proven Premier League Manager, after all the weak link in the chain is MM at the moment ;)


If I was you I'd be worrying about your own managerial problems which are bound to be just around the corner. If the Everton job does become avaiable (or any Premier job for that matter) then Michael Laudrup is bound to be on the short list.

One way or another ML be gone and Huw's luck in finding replacements can't go on forever. By the law of averages your next manager is bound to be a duff and that will start your traditional fall back down the leagues after being in the top flight. Mark my words you'll be 'swimming' away down the leagues very soon.

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:56 am

pauly_gee wrote:I have no idea of Sam's worth...but around 30% of the debt s owed to Sam, so would he have enough to take on the remainder of the debt, transfer it to equity and have enough to take the club forward?


So if Sam spent £70m paying off Tan and converted his debt to equity then for the equivalent of £94m he could own a debt free club worth about £40m-£50m max. Doesn't seem like a bargain really.

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:19 am

This is so laughable I can't believe I am commenting
VT = public listed company and declared wealth
Scam = never disclosed his wealth if any, never disclosed how he made his money if he ever made any, destroyed Wimbleon

Come on wake up and smell the coffee

No wonder Swansea come on here and have a laugh with this sort of crap

Re: Could Sam buy out VT?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:29 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Gowerjack wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22311315

im sure all club owners keep their manager in the loop about what their business plans are, it seems very naïve for malky to come out with that.
Its more likely that malky is just doing a bit more brown nosing and praying that the VT/SAM H conglomerate aren't planning to replace him with a proven Premier League Manager, after all the weak link in the chain is MM at the moment ;)


If I was you I'd be worrying about your own managerial problems which are bound to be just around the corner. If the Everton job does become avaiable (or any Premier job for that matter) then Michael Laudrup is bound to be on the short list.

One way or another ML be gone and Huw's luck in finding replacements can't go on forever. By the law of averages your next manager is bound to be a duff and that will start your traditional fall back down the leagues after being in the top flight. Mark my words you'll be 'swimming' away down the leagues very soon.


Yawn :lol: come up with something original you really are like a stuck record, I know it really hurts you to see that we are successful club and have no problem in recruiting suitable managers, its your club who blunders along hoping for rescue by the next 'sugar daddy' to fleece you while you bend over in gratitude.. :lol: :thumbup: