Jordon Rhodes!!

What's people's opinions on him?? Would u sign him for the premier lge?

What's people's opinions on him?? Would u sign him for the premier lge?

And spend a third of our total budget on an unproven young striker?

Wouldn't have thought so.

Squad need a near complete overhaul to have a chance of staying up.

How much is he worth? 7 million?

No no no no.

How much is he worth? 7 million?

More probably. He was signed for £8m including add one and has since scored 24 goals for Blackburn.

What's people's opinions on him?? Would u sign him for the premier lge?

And spend a third of our total budget on an unproven young striker?

Wouldn't have thought so.

Squad need a near complete overhaul to have a chance of staying up.

So who would you let go?

What's people's opinions on him?? Would u sign him for the premier lge?

And spend a third of our total budget on an unproven young striker?

Wouldn't have thought so.

Squad need a near complete overhaul to have a chance of staying up.

So who would you let go?

I wouldn't let anyone go unless bids come in for them. £25m isn't going to go that far in reality, we are probably going to need all the bodies we have at the moment.

No thanks.

What's people's opinions on him?? Would u sign him for the premier lge?

And spend a third of our total budget on an unproven young striker?

Wouldn't have thought so.

Squad need a near complete overhaul to have a chance of staying up.

So who would you let go?

I wouldn't let anyone go unless bids come in for them. £25m isn't going to go that far in reality, we are probably going to need all the bodies we have at the moment.

But some will have to go. The fringe players that are not getting a look in at the moment. In your opinion which ones will stay and which will get transfers/loaned out etc? You have opinions in lots of things ,i'm just interested on your opinion on this?

What's people's opinions on him?? Would u sign him for the premier lge?

And spend a third of our total budget on an unproven young striker?

Wouldn't have thought so.

Squad need a near complete overhaul to have a chance of staying up.

So who would you let go?

I wouldn't let anyone go unless bids come in for them. £25m isn't going to go that far in reality, we are probably going to need all the bodies we have at the moment.

But some will have to go. The fringe players that are not getting a look in at the moment. In your opinion which ones will stay and which will get transfers/loaned out etc? You have opinions in lots of things ,i'm just interested on your opinion on this?

Depends who we sign. Impossible to say otherwise.

What's people's opinions on him?? Would u sign him for the premier lge?

And spend a third of our total budget on an unproven young striker?

Wouldn't have thought so.

Squad need a near complete overhaul to have a chance of staying up.

So who would you let go?

I wouldn't let anyone go unless bids come in for them. £25m isn't going to go that far in reality, we are probably going to need all the bodies we have at the moment.

But some will have to go. The fringe players that are not getting a look in at the moment. In your opinion which ones will stay and which will get transfers/loaned out etc? You have opinions in lots of things ,i'm just interested on your opinion on this?

Depends who we sign. Impossible to say otherwise.

Well that's true but I just want your opinion on our fringe players. Who you think would cut it in a premier league squad so to speak.

Depends who we sign. Impossible to say otherwise.

Well that's true but I just want your opinion on our fringe players. Who you think would cut it in a premier league squad so to speak.[/quote]

Bellamy, Hudson, Marshall possibly gunnarson are the ones that I think would be sensible to keep next season. Everyone else, the jury's out on I guess.

Depends who we sign. Impossible to say otherwise.

Well that's true but I just want your opinion on our fringe players. Who you think would cut it in a premier league squad so to speak.

Bellamy, Hudson, Marshall possibly gunnarson are the ones that I think would be sensible to keep next season. Everyone else, the jury's out on I guess.[/quote]
So you don't rate Kim? Noone? Whitts?

Depends who we sign. Impossible to say otherwise.

Well that's true but I just want your opinion on our fringe players. Who you think would cut it in a premier league squad so to speak.

Bellamy, Hudson, Marshall possibly gunnarson are the ones that I think would be sensible to keep next season. Everyone else, the jury's out on I guess.

So you don't rate Kim? Noone? Whitts?[/quote]

They are decent championship players but doubt any could make an impact in the premier league,

Depends who we sign. Impossible to say otherwise.

Well that's true but I just want your opinion on our fringe players. Who you think would cut it in a premier league squad so to speak.

Bellamy, Hudson, Marshall possibly gunnarson are the ones that I think would be sensible to keep next season. Everyone else, the jury's out on I guess.

So you don't rate Kim? Noone? Whitts?

They are decent championship players but doubt any could make an impact in the premier league,[/quote]
Kim has been without doubt premier league quality lately. Do you not agree? Where do you think he's more affective? Out wide? Or centre midfield?

Kim and Whitts are good enough for the prem. Anyone who watches football can see that.

Kim and Whitts are good enough for the prem. Anyone who watches football can see that.

Well see.

Fact is nobody looked at swanseas team and thought they would do well. The only way we will now who will flourish or struggle at the next level is after a number of games. I would say through that our strikers now (Campbell, Maynard, Mason and even gestade) are better than what the jacks had last season or even have at this moment. And that's without potential of velinkonja.

Fact is nobody looked at swanseas team and thought they would do well. The only way we will now who will flourish or struggle at the next level is after a number of games. I would say through that our strikers now (Campbell, Maynard, Mason and even gestade) are better than what the jacks had last season or even have at this moment. And that's without potential of velinkonja.

Danny graham scored more premier league goals combined than all the strikers you mentioned there, and that even before bringing the likes of Michu into the argument.

Come on Carpe you have more sense than that,

Fact is nobody looked at swanseas team and thought they would do well. The only way we will now who will flourish or struggle at the next level is after a number of games. I would say through that our strikers now (Campbell, Maynard, Mason and even gestade) are better than what the jacks had last season or even have at this moment. And that's without potential of velinkonja.

Danny graham scored more premier league goals combined than all the strikers you mentioned there, and that even before bringing the likes of Michu into the argument.

Come on Carpe you have more sense than that,

Michu is a midfielder and how many goals have the strikers scored? I didn't include Bellamy as I class him more of a wide man.
Our strikers haven't had their chance yet whilst Campbell has been injured. So not really a fair comparison.
I wouldn't swap luke Moore or schecter (not sure of the spelling) for any of our squad.

Only an opinion and I stand by it

Fact is nobody looked at swanseas team and thought they would do well. The only way we will now who will flourish or struggle at the next level is after a number of games. I would say through that our strikers now (Campbell, Maynard, Mason and even gestade) are better than what the jacks had last season or even have at this moment. And that's without potential of velinkonja.

Danny graham scored more premier league goals combined than all the strikers you mentioned there, and that even before bringing the likes of Michu into the argument.

Come on Carpe you have more sense than that,

Michu is a midfielder and how many goals have the strikers scored? I didn't include Bellamy as I class him more of a wide man.
Our strikers haven't had their chance yet whilst Campbell has been injured. So not really a fair comparison.
I wouldn't swap luke Moore or schecter (not sure of the spelling) for any of our squad.

Only an opinion and I stand by it

Michu is playing as a striker. Schecter isn't theirs and Moore has 20 prem goals to his name, again more than any striker you mentioned.

Fact is nobody looked at swanseas team and thought they would do well. The only way we will now who will flourish or struggle at the next level is after a number of games. I would say through that our strikers now (Campbell, Maynard, Mason and even gestade) are better than what the jacks had last season or even have at this moment. And that's without potential of velinkonja.

Danny graham scored more premier league goals combined than all the strikers you mentioned there, and that even before bringing the likes of Michu into the argument.

Come on Carpe you have more sense than that,

Michu is a midfielder and how many goals have the strikers scored? I didn't include Bellamy as I class him more of a wide man.
Our strikers haven't had their chance yet whilst Campbell has been injured. So not really a fair comparison.
I wouldn't swap luke Moore or schecter (not sure of the spelling) for any of our squad.

Only an opinion and I stand by it

Michu is playing as a striker. Schecter isn't theirs and Moore has 20 prem goals to his name, again more than any striker you mentioned.

Lets break it down. Last season they only really had graham who hadn't featured in the PL before. I believe we have more than that with our lot. And I'm now classing Bellamy as a striker in line with michu (ill leave you look up his stats).
Surely you can concede this?

This season I still think we have a better group overall, but of course michu has been outstanding and has scored a lot of goals. Individually he is probably better than what we have, but that's assuming he can repeat his season and that one of ours doesn't have a blinder too. You never know.

Give me moores stats all day, doesn't change what I think of him compared to ours. And schecter plays for Swansea on loan so I to see your point. Have I missed their other strikers then?

I'm not turning this into a thousand posts and only time will tell who is right. Nice debate though.

Fact is nobody looked at swanseas team and thought they would do well. The only way we will now who will flourish or struggle at the next level is after a number of games. I would say through that our strikers now (Campbell, Maynard, Mason and even gestade) are better than what the jacks had last season or even have at this moment. And that's without potential of velinkonja.

Danny graham scored more premier league goals combined than all the strikers you mentioned there, and that even before bringing the likes of Michu into the argument.

Come on Carpe you have more sense than that,

Michu is a midfielder and how many goals have the strikers scored? I didn't include Bellamy as I class him more of a wide man.
Our strikers haven't had their chance yet whilst Campbell has been injured. So not really a fair comparison.
I wouldn't swap luke Moore or schecter (not sure of the spelling) for any of our squad.

Only an opinion and I stand by it

Michu is playing as a striker. Schecter isn't theirs and Moore has 20 prem goals to his name, again more than any striker you mentioned.

Lets break it down. Last season they only really had graham who hadn't featured in the PL before. I believe we have more than that with our lot. And I'm now classing Bellamy as a striker in line with michu (ill leave you look up his stats).
Surely you can concede this?

This season I still think we have a better group overall, but of course michu has been outstanding and has scored a lot of goals. Individually he is probably better than what we have, but that's assuming he can repeat his season and that one of ours doesn't have a blinder too. You never know.

Give me moores stats all day, doesn't change what I think of him compared to ours. And schecter plays for Swansea on loan so I to see your point. Have I missed their other strikers then?

I'm not turning this into a thousand posts and only time will tell who is right. Nice debate though.

Swansea only play 1 up front so we are bound to have more strikers than them.

Bellamy got into double figures twice in his premier league career. Once with 10 the other with 11. Michu scored 17 and counting and Danny graham got 15. Bellamy is no striker and certainly not a finisher. Hell be 34 or there abouts when the season commences, will he be as affective out wide with the pace and physicality of the premier league, who knows.

Individually Michu is miles ahead, he's probably worth £20 million. Remember he did it in la liga last year too, 15 goals there from midfield.

Moore and Campbell are a much of a muchness in my opinion. Campbell quicker but Moore cleverer. Both have not got great goal scoring records at that level. I think campbell has something like 7 in 80 where as Moore has 20 in about 100. Matter of opinion between the two but there isn't much between them.

Swansea were far more equipped to go up in my opinion. Joe Allen, Scott Sinclair, Nathan Dyer, Leon Britton, Angel Rangel, Neil Taylor, Ashley Williams were the core of their side. That's 7 good starting premier league players there and a good base to build from.

I think we have Hudson, Marshall and an ageing Bellamy to build on.

All 7 untested at PL level so you never know. Sinclair struggled, was replaced and hasn't been seen since. I have as much confidence in bellers, Kim, whits, mutch, hudson, turner, taylor et al as I would in that Swansea defence and midfield when they got promoted. They adapted well, so can Cardiff. Time will tell.

And Cardiff play 1 up front.

All 7 untested at PL level so you never know. Sinclair struggled, was replaced and hasn't been seen since. I have as much confidence in bellers, Kim, whits, mutch, hudson, turner, taylor et al as I would in that Swansea defence and midfield when they got promoted. They adapted well, so can Cardiff. Time will tell.

And Cardiff play 1 up front.

Taylor and turner haven't been great in the championship let alone the premier league. Mutch again has only shown signs but goes missing far too often, whitts tips the great conundrum as far as I'm concerned, if he was good enough and more importantly if he thought he was good enough he'd have been playing there my now.

Like you say, you won't be able to tell until next year but on the face of it we need an awful lot more signings than they did.

All 7 untested at PL level so you never know. Sinclair struggled, was replaced and hasn't been seen since. I have as much confidence in bellers, Kim, whits, mutch, hudson, turner, taylor et al as I would in that Swansea defence and midfield when they got promoted. They adapted well, so can Cardiff. Time will tell.

And Cardiff play 1 up front.

Taylor and turner haven't been great in the championship let alone the premier league. Mutch again has only shown signs but goes missing far too often, whitts tips the great conundrum as far as I'm concerned, if he was good enough and more importantly if he thought he was good enough he'd have been playing there my now.

Like you say, you won't be able to tell until next year but on the face of it we need an awful lot more signings than they did.

You clearly haven't been watching Taylor or mutch recently, whilst in the case of the latter he was injured for most of the early part of the season. Both have great promise for the higher level IMO

All 7 untested at PL level so you never know. Sinclair struggled, was replaced and hasn't been seen since. I have as much confidence in bellers, Kim, whits, mutch, hudson, turner, taylor et al as I would in that Swansea defence and midfield when they got promoted. They adapted well, so can Cardiff. Time will tell.

And Cardiff play 1 up front.

Taylor and turner haven't been great in the championship let alone the premier league. Mutch again has only shown signs but goes missing far too often, whitts tips the great conundrum as far as I'm concerned, if he was good enough and more importantly if he thought he was good enough he'd have been playing there my now.

Like you say, you won't be able to tell until next year but on the face of it we need an awful lot more signings than they did.

You clearly haven't been watching Taylor or mutch recently, whilst in the case of the latter he was injured for most of the early part of the season. Both have great promise for the higher level IMO

Or you underestimate the quality of the premier league. Depends what side if the fence you are on.

All 7 untested at PL level so you never know. Sinclair struggled, was replaced and hasn't been seen since. I have as much confidence in bellers, Kim, whits, mutch, hudson, turner, taylor et al as I would in that Swansea defence and midfield when they got promoted. They adapted well, so can Cardiff. Time will tell.

And Cardiff play 1 up front.

Taylor and turner haven't been great in the championship let alone the premier league. Mutch again has only shown signs but goes missing far too often, whitts tips the great conundrum as far as I'm concerned, if he was good enough and more importantly if he thought he was good enough he'd have been playing there my now.

Like you say, you won't be able to tell until next year but on the face of it we need an awful lot more signings than they did.

You clearly haven't been watching Taylor or mutch recently, whilst in the case of the latter he was injured for most of the early part of the season. Both have great promise for the higher level IMO

Or you underestimate the quality of the premier league. Depends what side if the fence you are on.

No you said Taylor and turner haven't been great in the championship this season. Totally incorrect. Nothing to do with the PL.

Fact is nobody looked at swanseas team and thought they would do well. The only way we will now who will flourish or struggle at the next level is after a number of games. I would say through that our strikers now (Campbell, Maynard, Mason and even gestade) are better than what the jacks had last season or even have at this moment. And that's without potential of velinkonja.

Danny graham scored more premier league goals combined than all the strikers you mentioned there, and that even before bringing the likes of Michu into the argument.

Come on Carpe you have more sense than that,

Michu is a midfielder and how many goals have the strikers scored? I didn't include Bellamy as I class him more of a wide man.
Our strikers haven't had their chance yet whilst Campbell has been injured. So not really a fair comparison.
I wouldn't swap luke Moore or schecter (not sure of the spelling) for any of our squad.

Only an opinion and I stand by it

Michu is playing as a striker. Schecter isn't theirs and Moore has 20 prem goals to his name, again more than any striker you mentioned.

Lets break it down. Last season they only really had graham who hadn't featured in the PL before. I believe we have more than that with our lot. And I'm now classing Bellamy as a striker in line with michu (ill leave you look up his stats).
Surely you can concede this?

This season I still think we have a better group overall, but of course michu has been outstanding and has scored a lot of goals. Individually he is probably better than what we have, but that's assuming he can repeat his season and that one of ours doesn't have a blinder too. You never know.

Give me moores stats all day, doesn't change what I think of him compared to ours. And schecter plays for Swansea on loan so I to see your point. Have I missed their other strikers then?

I'm not turning this into a thousand posts and only time will tell who is right. Nice debate though.

Swansea only play 1 up front so we are bound to have more strikers than them.

Bellamy got into double figures twice in his premier league career. Once with 10 the other with 11. Michu scored 17 and counting and Danny graham got 15. Bellamy is no striker and certainly not a finisher. Hell be 34 or there abouts when the season commences, will he be as affective out wide with the pace and physicality of the premier league, who knows.

Individually Michu is miles ahead, he's probably worth £20 million. Remember he did it in la liga last year too, 15 goals there from midfield.

Moore and Campbell are a much of a muchness in my opinion. Campbell quicker but Moore cleverer. Both have not got great goal scoring records at that level. I think campbell has something like 7 in 80 where as Moore has 20 in about 100. Matter of opinion between the two but there isn't much between them.

Swansea were far more equipped to go up in my opinion. Joe Allen, Scott Sinclair, Nathan Dyer, Leon Britton, Angel Rangel, Neil Taylor, Ashley Williams were the core of their side. That's 7 good starting premier league players there and a good base to build from.

I think we have Hudson, Marshall and an ageing Bellamy to build on.

Paxman. You seem to know loads about the jacks to be honest. I questioned you earlier about Cardiff,your answers were very vague to say the least,as soon as someone mentions Swansea you can write paragraphs and talk all kinds of stats. How come? I'm intrigued.

All 7 untested at PL level so you never know. Sinclair struggled, was replaced and hasn't been seen since. I have as much confidence in bellers, Kim, whits, mutch, hudson, turner, taylor et al as I would in that Swansea defence and midfield when they got promoted. They adapted well, so can Cardiff. Time will tell.

And Cardiff play 1 up front.

Taylor and turner haven't been great in the championship let alone the premier league. Mutch again has only shown signs but goes missing far too often, whitts tips the great conundrum as far as I'm concerned, if he was good enough and more importantly if he thought he was good enough he'd have been playing there my now.

Like you say, you won't be able to tell until next year but on the face of it we need an awful lot more signings than they did.

You clearly haven't been watching Taylor or mutch recently, whilst in the case of the latter he was injured for most of the early part of the season. Both have great promise for the higher level IMO

Or you underestimate the quality of the premier league. Depends what side if the fence you are on.

No you said Taylor and turner haven't been great in the championship this season. Totally incorrect. Nothing to do with the PL.

And I stand by it