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' THE DREAM IS NOW REALITY '

Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:41 am

by Carl Curtis
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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... er-2829532 :ayatollah: :malky: :ayatollah:


Carl Curtis
' For myself the reality that we were heading for the Premier League hit home when Rudy Gestede scored his first against Nottingham Forest on Saturday afternoon.'

' But the dream began – whether you love him or loathe him – with Sam Hammam. '

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Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:51 am

I still don't want him back tho.

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Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:52 am

Agreed, Sam Hammam brought a feel good factor to the club and raised the profile of CCFC in a number of ways. The new stadium was his dream.

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Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:01 am

The riddler made it a reality though. So I guess he played is part too!

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Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:15 am

I was dreaming about it a long time before Sam I can assure you! Its OUR dream, nobody elses!

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Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:34 am

AHERNE wrote:The riddler made it a reality though. So I guess he played is part too!

Tans money brought the dream true because without his intervention in the high court 2 years ago we wouldn't be here now and we certainly wouldn't be lauding Sam for his part in the club achieving its dream.
The reality is without tan Sam and ridsdale s legacy would have been the man who started the debt nightmare and then the man who grew it and finally finished the club off.
All credit to Malky but without tans backing he could not have brought the players he wanted to achieve our dream.
Whilst I don't agree with the way the rebrand was bullied through you have to give tan credit for his vision because I don't think any sane man would have taken us on when he did without the amount of debt we were already in :ayatollah:

Re: ' THE DREAM IS NOW REALITY '

Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:36 am

The Premier League folks are at the CCS on Monday. Have a great trip away today all and bring back 3pts. Enjoy every second of it. The Blues Are Going Up And We Are Top Of The League:malky:

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Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:57 am

' But the dream began – whether you love him or loathe him – with Sam Hammam. '

But he turned into a nightmare just like Wimbledon

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Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:12 am

No doubt that more than any other Chairman in my 47 years as a fan SH gave us a belief that this dream was possible, unfortunately he didn't have the money to put where his mouth was.

Unlike Tan who has backed his word with big money and that together with the best manager we have had at the club since Jimmy Scoular and a great squad of players has delivered the dream.

Whatever your view on Ridsdale he delivered the stadium when SH couldn't and without the stadium there would have been no Tan and without his money we would now be down the divisions.

ALL deserve credit for making the dream come true in my opinion.


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Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:46 am

Carl are you getting paid by Sam?
:ayatollah:

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Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:52 am

castleblue wrote:No doubt that more than any other Chairman in my 47 years as a fan SH gave us a belief that this dream was possible, unfortunately he didn't have the money to put where his mouth was.

Unlike Tan who has backed his word with big money and that together with the best manager we have had at the club since Jimmy Scoular and a great squad of players has delivered the dream.

Whatever your view on Ridsdale he delivered the stadium when SH couldn't and without the stadium there would have been no Tan and without his money we would now be down the divisions.

ALL deserve credit for making the dream come true in my opinion.


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Castle

Lets not forget paul guy here whilst we are lauding ridsdale because he was the man who took a loan of 9m out to complete the stadium build and fit out and without that money no stadium.
This board has castigated paul for having the audacity to want that money back whilst backing Sam to have all his money back of which a lot of it was wasted on over priced players and over inflated wages.
Once again tan has been paying paul back and I would have thought that he might try and persuade paul to change the debt to equity over the summer. Who knows perhaps Sam might do the same and that would be a great result all round.

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Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:16 am

Forever Blue wrote:by Carl Curtis
Link
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... er-2829532 :ayatollah: :malky: :ayatollah:


Carl Curtis
' For myself the reality that we were heading for the Premier League hit home when Rudy Gestede scored his first against Nottingham Forest on Saturday afternoon.'

' But the dream began – whether you love him or loathe him – with Sam Hammam. '


We made the dream so lets all make it continue TOGETHER :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

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Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:38 am

steve davies wrote:
AHERNE wrote:The riddler made it a reality though. So I guess he played is part too!

Tans money brought the dream true because without his intervention in the high court 2 years ago we wouldn't be here now and we certainly wouldn't be lauding Sam for his part in the club achieving its dream.
The reality is without tan Sam and ridsdale s legacy would have been the man who started the debt nightmare and then the man who grew it and finally finished the club off.
All credit to Malky but without tans backing he could not have brought the players he wanted to achieve our dream.
Whilst I don't agree with the way the rebrand was bullied through you have to give tan credit for his vision because I don't think any sane man would have taken us on when he did without the amount of debt we were already in :ayatollah:


Sam came in when we were in the same predicament as when Tan took over but there was a big difference.

Hamman look at us when we were scraping the barrel of the dungeon league when we were a club that looked like it had nothing going for itself. Actually the whole world would have loved to have seen the back of us.

In contrast Tan came in when we were knocking on the front door of the premier. Even though we failed then the opportunity of us was not one to throw away hence why he has hung around.

For given Ridsdale credit well some people need a rocket up their arse. The Riddler is the ultimate one who took us to closure by taking out shark loans and ignoring the taxman for the prize of where we are today.

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Sat Apr 20, 2013 10:53 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
steve davies wrote:
AHERNE wrote:The riddler made it a reality though. So I guess he played is part too!

Tans money brought the dream true because without his intervention in the high court 2 years ago we wouldn't be here now and we certainly wouldn't be lauding Sam for his part in the club achieving its dream.
The reality is without tan Sam and ridsdale s legacy would have been the man who started the debt nightmare and then the man who grew it and finally finished the club off.
All credit to Malky but without tans backing he could not have brought the players he wanted to achieve our dream.
Whilst I don't agree with the way the rebrand was bullied through you have to give tan credit for his vision because I don't think any sane man would have taken us on when he did without the amount of debt we were already in :ayatollah:


Sam came in when we were in the same predicament as when Tan took over but there was a big difference.

Hamman look at us when we were scraping the barrel of the dungeon league when we were a club that looked like it had nothing going for itself. Actually the whole world would have loved to have seen the back of us.

In contrast Tan came in when we were knocking on the front door of the premier. Even though we failed then the opportunity of us was not one to throw away hence why he has hung around.

For given Ridsdale credit well some people need a rocket up their arse. The Riddler is the ultimate one who took us to closure by taking out shark loans and ignoring the taxman for the prize of where we are today.



The one flaw there bakes is we were 1.5 million in debt when Sam came in and nearly 36 million in debt when Sam left so not quite the same risk for Sam as tan took.

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Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:25 am

This is a two-part issue:

1: For those who were there (including the handful of original 'Ambassadors' who literally kept the club afloat) the Sam era was one of the most vibrant and exciting periods in the club's history. The so-called 'dream' was instigated by Sam's pure enthusiasm and charisma and he certainly got into the heads and hearts of those who were there (including me) and I remember queuing for hours on end to get tickets for certain cup games, so it can't possibly have been all that bad ;) :ayatollah:

2: However, Sam (and I firmly believe that the truth is yet to come out) managed to get us into a position where (a) the local authorities wouldn't deal with him, and (b) the so-called 'dream' started to become a nightmare of catastrophic proportions whereby but for the intervention of first Peter Ridsdale (FACT ;) ) and then TG closely followed by Vincent Tan, our club would have gone to the wall and no matter what some say we would NOT be in the position where we are now (FACT ;) )

Ultimately, Sam took a 'punt' (as he did at Wimbledon) and it failed badly. However, in my eyes, this did not diminish 'Sam the Man' as a Cardiff City legend but it did (and continues) to affect his legacy as our so-called 'saviour' because he simply was not! I liked Sam the character. He was an enigma who knew how to press the right butItons with the loyal supporters and did it exceptionall well (even having an influenece on the thinking of some today) :shock:

Like it or not the early plaudits should go to initially to Peter Ridsdale for coming in and realising how bad the situation was and doing at least 'something' about it when all around sat back and watched waiting to say "I told you so" followed by the legend that should be TG and his powers of persuasion over his Guv'nor Vincent Tan ;)

And there we have the realism, i.e. that the real 'saviour' of Cardiff City FC was/is Vincent Tan for putting his money in when all around were jumping ship and watching us float into the abyss. Who can possibly say he has not been a positive influence on the club we all claim to love? Certainly not me and (in reality) not any true supporter of Cardiff City FC ;)

Some will always return to the 'Red/Blue' issue as a sort of standard response but the simple fact is that whilst few actually 'want' the red we will certainly 'put up' with it to be on a journey none of us who were there at the beginning realistically thought could EVER happen ;)

Now we are there and (thanks to those who saved us) we can continue to 'dream' but for bigger and better things to come in the future :ayatollah:

Loving it!! :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :notworthy: :malky:

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Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:20 pm

Yes lets thank the man who tried to close the club.

Thanks Sam.