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MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:07 pm

Would like some answers from those who might know.

Man A takes his mothers car to the shop and goes into Man B car causing enough damage for an insurance claim.

Man A is not insured forcing Man B to contact his insurance provider of which he passes all the details over to them.

That's it in a nutshell, anyone know what will happen, could Man B end up in jail?

I am assuming that Man B insurance provider will contact the police over this. If so then I can see Man A at least getting a ban from driving with possible a custodial sentence as he has previous but not car related.

Over to you guys.

Cheers

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:18 pm

He'll get done for driving with no insurance. Hope you got his real name and address and phone the police yourself.

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:22 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:He'll get done for driving with no insurance. Hope you got his real name and address and phone the police yourself.


I'm not involved Craig.

i'm just wondering if he will get a custody sentence?

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:25 pm

Unless his previous is for car offences and really really bad he wont.

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:27 pm

No custodial sentence unless hes on license or something, driving while not insured does not hold a custodial sentence as a punishment.

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:51 pm

6 points
A £300-500 quid fine
possible ban
and court costs most likely

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:00 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Would like some answers from those who might know.

Man A takes his mothers car to the shop and goes into Man B car causing enough damage for an insurance claim.

Man A is not insured forcing Man B to contact his insurance provider of which he passes all the details over to them.

That's it in a nutshell, anyone know what will happen, could Man B end up in jail?

I am assuming that Man B insurance provider will contact the police over this. If so then I can see Man A at least getting a ban from driving with possible a custodial sentence as he has previous but not car related.

Over to you guys.

Cheers


I had an idiot crashing into me then hid and wouldn't pay up even though he admitted fault at the time then changed his story and denied fault but i had witnesses. My insurance threatened to sue the driver who in the end paid..

Does Man A have witnesses?

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:16 pm

If Man A has taken the car without permission, he technically commits an offence of taking without consent and, if he holds no valid insurance policy, driving without insurance.

If Man A has caused an accident this could be the more serious offence of Aggravated vehicle taking. This offence is imprisonable. The exact circumstances of the offence will be important to provide accurate advice however.

Tell Man A to ring me in the office Tuesday for free telephone advice if he wants.

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:35 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Would like some answers from those who might know.

Man A takes his mothers car to the shop and goes into Man B car causing enough damage for an insurance claim.

Man A is not insured forcing Man B to contact his insurance provider of which he passes all the details over to them.

That's it in a nutshell, anyone know what will happen, could Man B end up in jail?

I am assuming that Man B insurance provider will contact the police over this. If so then I can see Man A at least getting a ban from driving with possible a custodial sentence as he has previous but not car related.

Over to you guys.

Cheers

How can Man B go to jail when Man A is not insured but Man B is and Man A drove into Man B's car :lol:

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:39 pm

Jinks wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Would like some answers from those who might know.

Man A takes his mothers car to the shop and goes into Man B car causing enough damage for an insurance claim.

Man A is not insured forcing Man B to contact his insurance provider of which he passes all the details over to them.

That's it in a nutshell, anyone know what will happen, could Man B end up in jail?

I am assuming that Man B insurance provider will contact the police over this. If so then I can see Man A at least getting a ban from driving with possible a custodial sentence as he has previous but not car related.

Over to you guys.

Cheers


I had an idiot crashing into me then hid and wouldn't pay up even though he admitted fault at the time then changed his story and denied fault but i had witnesses. My insurance threatened to sue the driver who in the end paid..

Does Man A have witnesses?


Sorry i mean does Man B have witnesses?

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:59 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Would like some answers from those who might know.

Man A takes his mothers car to the shop and goes into Man B car causing enough damage for an insurance claim.

Man A is not insured forcing Man B to contact his insurance provider of which he passes all the details over to them.

That's it in a nutshell, anyone know what will happen, could Man B end up in jail?

I am assuming that Man B insurance provider will contact the police over this. If so then I can see Man A at least getting a ban from driving with possible a custodial sentence as he has previous but not car related.

Over to you guys.

Cheers

How can Man B go to jail when Man A is not insured but Man B is and Man A drove into Man B's car :lol:

It's got conditional discharge and free African safari written all over it :lol:

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:15 pm

Did Man C witness any of this?

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:19 pm

BluebirdJM wrote:Did Man C witness any of this?


No but Mel B and Mel C did. :old:

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:20 pm

BluebirdJM wrote:Did Man C witness any of this?


No, they were playing Man U at the time.

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:28 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Would like some answers from those who might know.

Man A takes his mothers car to the shop and goes into Man B car causing enough damage for an insurance claim.

Man A is not insured forcing Man B to contact his insurance provider of which he passes all the details over to them.

That's it in a nutshell, anyone know what will happen, could Man B end up in jail?

I am assuming that Man B insurance provider will contact the police over this. If so then I can see Man A at least getting a ban from driving with possible a custodial sentence as he has previous but not car related.

Over to you guys.

Cheers

How can Man B go to jail when Man A is not insured but Man B is and Man A drove into Man B's car :lol:


Smart arse.

I was in a rush when I posted this.

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:36 pm

M4 Solicitor wrote:If Man A has taken the car without permission, he technically commits an offence of taking without consent and, if he holds no valid insurance policy, driving without insurance.

If Man A has caused an accident this could be the more serious offence of Aggravated vehicle taking. This offence is imprisonable. The exact circumstances of the offence will be important to provide accurate advice however.

Tell Man A to ring me in the office Tuesday for free telephone advice if he wants.


Cheers M4 but I would like to see Man A in prison.

The car belonged to Man A mother. She knew he took it, he has done many times so I'm not sure it is aggravated vehicle taking.

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:39 pm

Jinks wrote:
Jinks wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Would like some answers from those who might know.

Man A takes his mothers car to the shop and goes into Man B car causing enough damage for an insurance claim.

Man A is not insured forcing Man B to contact his insurance provider of which he passes all the details over to them.

That's it in a nutshell, anyone know what will happen, could Man B end up in jail?

I am assuming that Man B insurance provider will contact the police over this. If so then I can see Man A at least getting a ban from driving with possible a custodial sentence as he has previous but not car related.

Over to you guys.

Cheers


I had an idiot crashing into me then hid and wouldn't pay up even though he admitted fault at the time then changed his story and denied fault but i had witnesses. My insurance threatened to sue the driver who in the end paid..

Does Man A have witnesses?


Sorry i mean does Man B have witnesses?


They exchanged details at the incident. Man A was using his mothers car and though he was insured on her insurance. He was not.

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:25 am

If man A`s mother gave him permission to use the car, then Man A`s mother will get done as well as man A..
If she didn`t give permission, then man A could be charged with theft as well as no insurance..

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:37 am

So man A made a mistake and thought he was insured (your words) and you want to see him put inside for that?

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:16 am

CraigCCFC wrote:So man A made a mistake and thought he was insured (your words) and you want to see him put inside for that?


Craig stop trying to make me out to be a c**t. Did I say that was the reason, no I did not, so stop assuming and for once think before you post.

1. Man A has a criminal record for hitting a woman some time ago.
2. Man A has another criminal record for hitting a woman while drunk.
3. Man A served a 2 year supervisory order for hitting the mother of his child after a drinking session.

Just to elaborate on the "mistake" Man A knew he was not insured and his mother knew that but she still allowed him to drive the car. This is not the only time this has happened but this weekend was the first time he has been in an incident.

Now it will be interesting to see if when the police comes around he snitches on his mother. I just wonder if he will take the blame and say to the police he took the car without his mothers consent.

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:20 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:So man A made a mistake and thought he was insured (your words) and you want to see him put inside for that?


Craig stop trying to make me out to be a c**t. Did I say that was the reason, no I did not, so stop assuming and for once think before you post.

1. Man A has a criminal record for hitting a woman some time ago.
2. Man A has another criminal record for hitting a woman while drunk.
3. Man A served a 2 year supervisory order for hitting the mother of his child after a drinking session.

Just to elaborate on the "mistake" Man A knew he was not insured and his mother knew that but she still allowed him to drive the car. This is not the only time this has happened but this weekend was the first time he has been in an incident.

Now it will be interesting to see if when the police comes around he snitches on his mother. I just wonder if he will take the blame and say to the police he took the car without his mothers consent.


sounds like a right c**t to me, knocking women about

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:24 am

Ben wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:So man A made a mistake and thought he was insured (your words) and you want to see him put inside for that?


Craig stop trying to make me out to be a c**t. Did I say that was the reason, no I did not, so stop assuming and for once think before you post.

1. Man A has a criminal record for hitting a woman some time ago.
2. Man A has another criminal record for hitting a woman while drunk.
3. Man A served a 2 year supervisory order for hitting the mother of his child after a drinking session.

Just to elaborate on the "mistake" Man A knew he was not insured and his mother knew that but she still allowed him to drive the car. This is not the only time this has happened but this weekend was the first time he has been in an incident.

Now it will be interesting to see if when the police comes around he snitches on his mother. I just wonder if he will take the blame and say to the police he took the car without his mothers consent.


sounds like a right c**t to me, knocking women about


He is Ben. Usually after he has had a drink.

Guys like this should be put away but it seems every time there is that chance of getting him behind bars he gets away with a menial punishment. Very frustrating.

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:37 am

Man a is a bellend

Re: MOTORING CRIME

Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:53 am

I i think it would have a better if man X, Y,and Z can consult with man A whilst not having to rely on man D,B,C and F being present! :o