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" RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:40 pm

Can I just remind people of a couple of things before I start :

1 Cardiff 41 24 80
2 Hull 41 11 74
3 Watford 41 25 71

We have been top for 19 weeks, since November 24th 2012, we have not been in the top flight since 1961/62 season. Malky Mackay is just about to complete only his second season as manager of our great club and he delivered a Carling Cup Final appearance, secured a play-off place and has kept our team top of the division for nearly 5 months in a notoriously difficult league.

I understand and feel the disappointment at a late leveller like last night, I empathise with some of the criticism of team selection and substitutions, I believe that Malky is a studious manager, a manager who will err on the side of caution, a manager who sets up not to lose as opposed to going all out for the win but regardless of faults he has already overachieved last season and is destined to deliver on the goal of automatic promotion in only his second season.

Why oh why are there calls for the manager to be replaced EVEN if we get promoted automatically is beyond belief in my opinion. When clubs have got promoted to the Premier League, I find it disgusting when they sack their managers who took them there, during the first season, especially when those clubs are doing ok in the Premier League, shows a lack of class, I pray we don't become one of those clubs.

But for some of our fans want him gone before the start of next season is truly shocking, I have written previously that is very little loyalty in football but I thought that was between the walls of the day to day running of clubs, I didn't expect it to come from the stands when a manager is delivering on our hopes and dreams.

Yes the football at times this season has not been brilliant, of course I would love to be the entertainers but Malky is doing what he believes will work to get us out of the division and who can argue against what he has done so far. To even think of not allowing him the opportunity to manage us in the Premier League, let alone say it, is absolutely mind blowing for me.

Sir Alex Ferguson took three and half years to deliver his first bit of success, at the giant Man Utd and nearly five years for his first title there, yet after just three years in the job there was a banner held up at Old Trafford which read "Three years of excuses and it's still crap ... ta-ra Fergie."

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Do the Utd supporters still wish that Fergie was sacked back in 1989, I don't think so.

I am not saying Malky Mackay will go on to greatness or achieve anywhere near the level of success that Fergie has achieved but within the walls of the CCS he will have achieved something great for our club when he leads this team into the Premier League this season. It is what we all hoped and wished for at the start of this season and for every season since we got promoted to this division in 2003.

At the start of the season if we were offered this position of a 6 and 9 point lead over 2nd and 3rd place with 5 games to go, don't tell me any of us would have turned it down, no matter what the football or the results were like along the way, we would have simply not believed we could possibly have been in such good shape.

Have people forgotten what Malky Mackay had when he took over less than two years ago, I have not and despite any criticisms I may have of his tactics it still does not warrant any suggestion that he does not deserve the chance to further his management with us.

The negativity from some is astounding and I really think those who feel that way should just think back to the past few years when we had the big names but the lack of effort from our players and maybe even the staff at the time, there even seemed to be a lack of respect from the players and manager to even acknowledge us as fans despite where we had travelled to support them.

Let's how some class and give respect to the manager who is about to deliver the prize that we all want and have yearned for for so many years.

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Re: RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY

Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:44 pm

Carl i think he has done what needs to be done to get us up. Will be interesting to see how we play next season but he does deserve the praise even though his style can be frustrating. In Malky we trust :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:52 pm

carlccfc wrote:Can I just remind people of a couple of things before I start :

1 Cardiff 41 24 80
2 Hull 41 11 74
3 Watford 41 25 71

We have been top for 19 weeks, since November 24th 2012, we have not been in the top flight since 1961/62 season. Malky Mackay is just about to complete only his second season as manager of our great club and he delivered a Carling Cup Final appearance, secured a play-off place and has kept our team top of the division for nearly 5 months in a notoriously difficult league.

I understand and feel the disappointment at a late leveller like last night, I empathise with some of the criticism of team selection and substitutions, I believe that Malky is a studious manager, a manager who will err on the side of caution, a manager who sets up not to lose as opposed to going all out for the win but regardless of faults he has already overachieved last season and is destined to deliver on the goal of automatic promotion in only his second season.

Why oh why are there calls for the manager to be replaced EVEN if we get promoted automatically is beyond belief in my opinion. When clubs have got promoted to the Premier League, I find it disgusting when they sack their managers who took them there, during the first season, especially when those clubs are doing ok in the Premier League, shows a lack of class, I pray we don't become one of those clubs.

But for some of our fans want him gone before the start of next season is truly shocking, I have written previously that is very little loyalty in football but I thought that was between the walls of the day to day running of clubs, I didn't expect it to come from the stands when a manager is delivering on our hopes and dreams.

Yes the football at times this season has not been brilliant, of course I would love to be the entertainers but Malky is doing what he believes will work to get us out of the division and who can argue against what he has done so far. To even think of not allowing him the opportunity to manage us in the Premier League, let alone say it, is absolutely mind blowing for me.

Sir Alex Ferguson took three and half years to deliver his first bit of success, at the giant Man Utd and nearly five years for his first title there, yet after just three years in the job there was a banner held up at Old Trafford which read "Three years of excuses and it's still crap ... ta-ra Fergie."

fergie.jpg


Do the Utd supporters still wish that Fergie was sacked back in 1989, I don't think so.

I am not saying Malky Mackay will go on to greatness or achieve anywhere near the level of success that Fergie has achieved but within the walls of the CCS he will have achieved something great for our club when he leads this team into the Premier League this season. It is what we all hoped and wished for at the start of this season and for every season since we got promoted to this division in 2003.

At the start of the season if we were offered this position of a 6 and 9 point lead over 2nd and 3rd place with 5 games to go, don't tell me any of us would have turned it down, no matter what the football or the results were like along the way, we would have simply not believed we could possibly have been in such good shape.

Have people forgotten what Malky Mackay had when he took over less than two years ago, I have not and despite any criticisms I may have of his tactics it still does not warrant any suggestion that he does not deserve the chance to further his management with us.

The negativity from some is astounding and I really think those who feel that way should just think back to the past few years when we had the big names but the lack of effort from our players and maybe even the staff at the time, there even seemed to be a lack of respect from the players and manager to even acknowledge us as fans despite where we had travelled to support them.

Let's how some class and give respect to the manager who is about to deliver the prize that we all want and have yearned for for so many years.

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Carl your spot on with your post. We have to remember the priority at the start of the season set by VT was promotion and with 5 games to go it looks like MM has achieved his target. I along with every City fan last night bemoaned the dropping of 2 points but we stand at the top of the league with a 6 point gap. Lets all take the positives out of the season and get behind the team 110% until we reach the promised land :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky:

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:56 pm

It's a no brainier for me...the man is very dignified in all he does and treats the fans with utmost respect it annoys me to see the nonsense posted about him at times...good post Carl

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:56 pm

Great post Carl :malky:

But I think the same credit needs to be given to Vincent Tan as well.

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:56 pm

Carl, an excellent read and reminder to what Malky has achieved in such a short time, I know there has been an enormous pressure on him to guarantee us promotion this season from above and because of what has happened off the field,City have to be promoted this season and they will THANKS TO MALKY MACKAY. :ayatollah: :malky: :malky: :malky: :ayatollah:

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:57 pm

Well said Carl.

I understand fans being worried and scared that we are not going to make it, after all we have form with failing at the last hurdle.

however to have a go at Malky is completely out of order. Best manager we have had for a very long time.

2 games and it will all be over

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Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:59 pm

carl,malky has done well,but last night he got it so wrong.....our best defence is attack.....why let a poor barnsley side back into the game... :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:04 pm

Personally I don't have an issue with some of this seasons performances, no issues at all.
He has got this team focused, drilled, professional and a work ethic that is second to none.
He has done an amazing job and yes he had the backing this season to get promoted and he has almost delivered the boards expectation and target.

He deserves to be a premiership manager, that is all. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

I just hope we can know get the points after last nights HUGE disappointment, to get across the line.

In Malky we have always trusted :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :malky: :malky:

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:06 pm

I don't think he is this type of manager at all. At Watford they played attacking football against us and were one of the better teams to come to the CCS. I just think he knows this style is what is required in the Championship and is proven to work by the likes of QPR. Its not pretty but its effective. You need a certain type of player and team in the Championship.

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:17 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:I don't think he is this type of manager at all. At Watford they played attacking football against us and were one of the better teams to come to the CCS. I just think he knows this style is what is required in the Championship and is proven to work by the likes of QPR. Its not pretty but its effective. You need a certain type of player and team in the Championship.

Agreed Chief :malky: :malky:

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:23 pm

Dave Jones was dead right about football fans.

For the first time this season I thought he did get the selection quite wrong last night but we don't and won't know what hand he was dealt in terms of injuries etc. Malky deserves our full support.He may well have saved the club if as seems likely he gets us to the PL.So let's back him and the players to finish the job.

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:25 pm

Well said Carl.

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:28 pm

Malky is the real deal and growing as a manager - look what's he's delivered from scratch. We didn't know him from adam when he took over and he built a high performance team only having weeks before the season start - from nothing. Football fans can have notoriously small memories and perspective is key. I'm not even bothered about next season right now. I want to focus and enjoy these last few games for what they are within the Bluebirds history and hopefully take us to the top flight - something which lots have us have dreamt of since the late '70's. I understand and thrive on the passion and tradition of CCFC but some of the negativity is not good. Football is always going to be a rollercoaster and right now we are going up and steered by a man that I have confidence in, simply by what he has delivered and the football framework he has in place.

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:36 pm

Carl,

We do not know each other personally but, despite being a very infrequent post-er, I'm an avid reader of this site.

Your comments on this thread do not deserve to be challenged - I totally agree with them.

I've supported this great club since the mid fifties - so know all about the traumas involved with being an out-and-out fan.

I was 10 the last time I saw C.C.F.C. play in the top league. I've dreamed of seeing it again for decades.

Like many of the other forum members, I've spent bitterly cold afternoons and evenings at the likes of Halifax, Hartlepool, Rochdale, etc. - in crowds of, sometimes, less than 1,000.

Until it's mathematically impossible for promotion to be true, I'll retain the paranoia - but keep the faith.

Keep up the good work!!!

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:55 pm

To me Malky this season has played the way HE thought was our best chance of getting promotion, and I expect that if we are in the premiership next season, he will play the game as HE thinks will be best suited for us to remain in it. While building to improve the following seasons.

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:56 pm

Perfect excuse to bump the "Malky Man Utd" thread.

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:19 pm

krabb wrote:carl,malky has done well,but last night he got it so wrong.....our best defence is attack.....why let a poor barnsley side back into the game... :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Was this Malky's tactic last night though, as I saw him waving the defence forward when we started to sit back?

Loads of our fans have said that Malky is too defensively minded, but is that really the case?

All I know is that lots of teams have turned up at the Cardiff City Stadium this season and put 9 or more outfield players behind the ball and invited us to break them down, with Barnsley last night being the last in a long line to do so as well. They clearly set up to get a point and we still battered them, without getting the additional goal(s) we needed to pick up the 3 points, that we richly deserved imo! It's not Malky's fault that we squandered umpteen good chances and half chances throughout the game!

As we've been top of the league for so long this season, we've been up there to be shot at and many teams have even set up defensively at home, to stop us playing the brand of football we displayed, in the wins like the home and away victories at Wolves & Blackburn. Huddersfield being the one team that stands out that set up defensively at home, in order to protect the one point, which they started out with!

We've all got differing thoughts on who Malky should have started with last night and the substitutions he should have made during the game, but Malky has got his selections more right than wrong throughout this season, other wise we wouldn't be in such a strong position, as we currently are imo! :ayatollah:

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:26 pm

All Black Everything. wrote:I don't think he is this type of manager at all. At Watford they played attacking football against us and were one of the better teams to come to the CCS. I just think he knows this style is what is required in the Championship and is proven to work by the likes of QPR. Its not pretty but its effective. You need a certain type of player and team in the Championship.


Totally agree he had a plan at the start of the year, brought in quality championship players that know how to get out of the league with promotion. My hope for next year is he is allowed to build on this year but say thank you to the players that we all know will not "cut the mustard" in the premiership.

We need to be a team that will take the EPL by surprise (a bit like the jacks did) when they first went up. Don't forget they went up via the play off's but look a quality side now. It may hurt to read this but we need to follow their example and get a side to play the ball to feet as often as we can. If we do we'll be fine next year. Can't wait for next season.
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Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:54 pm

Spot on the guy has delivered wonders so far and I have the upmost respect for him. :malky:

The funny thing about all the criticism of late though is that Malky has recently strayed away from his so called 'boring football' and has decided to bring in the likes of Mutch and Kimbo which has seen us really dominate the midfield and play some more exciting stuff. Last night for example, the game should have been dead and buried after 75 minutes but we never converted our chances and as time went on Barnsley grew belief and scored a scruffy poxy goal to deny us of 3 points.

We are 9 points clear with 5 games to go, that says it all for me. :ayatollah: :malky:

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:59 pm

We play the right type of football for this league. Obviously the style will alter next season, as it does when we play PL teams in cups etc.

Malky is a top top manager, don't forget he is a relatively new manager and is learning still. :ayatollah:

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:22 pm

I have read and heard people say that Malky does not know what he's doing and he's got his tactics all wrong well my answer would be look at the Championship Table, there are 22 other managers in our Division who would like their team to be sitting where we are now.

Since he come in he has done a fantastic job taken us to the Carling Cup Final which we lost only due to the lottery of a penalty shoot out, took us into the Play Offs and now has us on the brink of promotion to the Premiership what more do the fans want :roll:

I agree with Carl that if we go up (Got to say if because i have had too much heartache previously) then Malky has to be given a full season to build a new team and establish ourselves in the Premiership :old: :malky:

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:37 pm

Carl, I just wish that Malky had brought in a top quality target man in the January window. We still lack a player to hold the ball up and bring others into play. Campbell was a very good purchase but as well as he has done I think we would be up by now if he was playing alongside a proper target man. HH is too slow and Rudy lacks quality. It's been a weakness all season and we are still top but I'm convinced if we had a striker in the mould of Kazeem Richards ( big strong and mobile) for example we would have it sewn up by now.

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:42 pm

moonboots wrote:Carl, I just wish that Malky had brought in a top quality target man in the January window. We still lack a player to hold the ball up and bring others into play. Campbell was a very good purchase but as well as he has done I think we would be up by now if he was playing alongside a proper target man. HH is too slow and Rudy lacks quality. It's been a weakness all season and we are still top but I'm convinced if we had a striker in the mould of Kazeem Richards ( big strong and mobile) for example we would have it sewn up by now.

Yeah, cos Kazeem Richards did so well against us last week! :)

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:48 pm

Spot on, Carl :ayatollah:

though he'll never be good enough for Cardiff City FC in some eyes, as he never spoke out about 'the red', preferring instead to go about his business of getting us promoted :o

Shame on him! :oops:


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Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:01 pm

krabb wrote:carl,malky has done well,but last night he got it so wrong.....our best defence is attack.....why let a poor barnsley side back into the game... :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


After we scored Barnsley threw everything at us in a 343 formation as they needed a point desperately. They got lucky with the goal. I don't think it was a conscious decision to play defensively - Barnsley threw the kitchen sink at us and got a break. The main fault was that we had had enough chances to have been 3 up long before then.

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:08 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
moonboots wrote:Carl, I just wish that Malky had brought in a top quality target man in the January window. We still lack a player to hold the ball up and bring others into play. Campbell was a very good purchase but as well as he has done I think we would be up by now if he was playing alongside a proper target man. HH is too slow and Rudy lacks quality. It's been a weakness all season and we are still top but I'm convinced if we had a striker in the mould of Kazeem Richards ( big strong and mobile) for example we would have it sewn up by now.

Yeah, cos Kazeem Richards did so well against us last week! :)


Blackburn were shit. Put him in our team and he would make a big difference. I've seen him play against us before and seen him on tv and he's a handful. Anyway I said someone in his mould...picky.

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:14 pm

moonboots wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
moonboots wrote:Carl, I just wish that Malky had brought in a top quality target man in the January window. We still lack a player to hold the ball up and bring others into play. Campbell was a very good purchase but as well as he has done I think we would be up by now if he was playing alongside a proper target man. HH is too slow and Rudy lacks quality. It's been a weakness all season and we are still top but I'm convinced if we had a striker in the mould of Kazeem Richards ( big strong and mobile) for example we would have it sewn up by now.

Yeah, cos Kazeem Richards did so well against us last week! :)


Blackburn were shit. Put him in our team and he would make a big difference. I've seen him play against us before and seen him on tv and he's a handful. Anyway I said someone in his mould...picky.

You're right, he has played against us before:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20564644 :)

I'm not being picky btw, I was just teasing, although I don't agree with this target man argument! :ayatollah:

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:22 pm

We are the "Moneyball" of the Championship

Nothing is left to chance, we have dossiers, reports, stats and Malkies now infamous white board.

5 games left and every eventuality is covered.

We are The Mighty Cardiff City, we are the Bluebirds !!!

And now your gunna believe us .....

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :malky:

Re: " RESPECT TO MALKY MACKAY "

Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:14 am

Carl. Many thanks for taking the time to put in to words the frustration that many of us feel about the negative comments from the mindless minority in regard to MM.
They appear to fall into very specific categories. Wind up merchants, idiots, kids with no understanding of life and unable to put anything into perspective.

For the WUM well done its working because we are responding to your nonsense. You must be delighted,