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Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:05 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 63574.html

Public support shows that Labour are 'out of touch!!!!!' :lol:

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:07 pm

I do not support any political party, but how on earth are these benefit reforms fair?

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:10 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:I do not support any political party, but how on earth are these benefit reforms fair?


because working people should have more income than non-working people!!!!

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:12 pm

I thought you had your own political board

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:14 pm

Dylanthomas wrote:I thought you had your own political board


Just spreading the word as wide as possible that Labour are a bunch of cunts!!!

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:16 pm

My understanding is there is more tax evasion than benefit fraud in money terms

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:17 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:My understanding is there is more tax evasion than benefit fraud in money terms


Of which this government are doing more about than any other previous Government. FACT!!!

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:18 pm

Angry Man wrote:
Dylanthomas wrote:I thought you had your own political board


Just spreading the word as wide as possible that Labour are a bunch of cunts!!!


Your language is appalling

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:18 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:My understanding is there is more tax evasion than benefit fraud in money terms


Of which this government are doing more about than any other previous Government. FACT!!!

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:19 pm

bluearmy1990 wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
Dylanthomas wrote:I thought you had your own political board


Just spreading the word as wide as possible that Labour are a bunch of cunts!!!


Your language is appalling


It is my language of choice and my personal opinion.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:21 pm

My understanding is there is more tax evasion than benefit fraud in money terms

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:22 pm

Angry Man wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/resentful-taxpayers-prompt-labour-to-get-tough-on-benefits-8563574.html

Public support shows that Labour are 'out of touch!!!!!' :lol:


The public believe the deficit is falling.

The public believe that the majority of the cuts have already happened.

The public also believed, when asked, that social security should increase y the rate of inflation rather than 1%. Inflation being nearly 3%.

Many of the so called cuts will result in massive increases on the social security budget.


Oh and if we're going by public support I'd say that you're credibility in Merthyr or this forum is at far lower level's than Labour's at the moment.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:23 pm

Angry Man wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:My understanding is there is more tax evasion than benefit fraud in money terms


Of which this government are doing more about than any other previous Government. FACT!!!


Yes. Taketh with one hand by closing minor loopholes and giveth with the other hand by lowering income tax on the richest.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:24 pm

Angry Man wrote:
bluearmy1990 wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
Dylanthomas wrote:I thought you had your own political board


Just spreading the word as wide as possible that Labour are a bunch of cunts!!!


Your language is appalling


It is my language of choice and my personal opinion.


Ok just stating a fact

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:24 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:My understanding is there is more tax evasion than benefit fraud in money terms

yeah. and i bet most of them are politicians, 2nd morgages. a gardener for the 2nd home. politics, is a job for the boys, gravy train etc, and they wonder why people dont vote, i used to be a labour voter, for the working man. thats all gone now, i dont bother voting no more theres no point. new labour. is conservative. a case of. as long as im alright jack. wheres my 2 fingers smiley :x

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:26 pm

Aramore wrote:
Angry Man wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/resentful-taxpayers-prompt-labour-to-get-tough-on-benefits-8563574.html

Public support shows that Labour are 'out of touch!!!!!' :lol:


The public believe the deficit is falling.

The public believe that the majority of the cuts have already happened.

The public also believed, when asked, that social security should increase y the rate of inflation rather than 1%. Inflation being nearly 3%.

Many of the so called cuts will result in massive increases on the social security budget.


Oh and if we're going by public support I'd say that you're credibility in Merthyr or this forum is at far lower level's than Labour's at the moment.


That would be interesting to see. Have you done a recent opinion poll..?

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:27 pm

Angry Man wrote:
bluearmy1990 wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
Dylanthomas wrote:I thought you had your own political board


Just spreading the word as wide as possible that Labour are a bunch of cunts!!!


Your language is appalling


It is my language of choice and my personal opinion.





Adam, you should go for Youth Police Commissioner with language like that :laughing6:

Only joking :laughing6:

Hope you enjoyed the F1 last week. Watch out for an improved Jenson performance next week :ayatollah:

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:27 pm

ninianblue wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:My understanding is there is more tax evasion than benefit fraud in money terms

yeah. and i bet most of them are politicians, 2nd morgages. a gardener for the 2nd home. politics, is a job for the boys, gravy train etc, and they wonder why people dont vote, i used to be a labour voter, for the working man. thats all gone now, i dont bother voting no more theres no point. new labour. is conservative. a case of. as long as im alright jack. wheres my 2 fingers smiley :x


Always use your vote mate even if you spoil it because you dont like any of the choices.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:29 pm

Angry Man wrote:
Aramore wrote:
Angry Man wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/resentful-taxpayers-prompt-labour-to-get-tough-on-benefits-8563574.html

Public support shows that Labour are 'out of touch!!!!!' :lol:


The public believe the deficit is falling.

The public believe that the majority of the cuts have already happened.

The public also believed, when asked, that social security should increase y the rate of inflation rather than 1%. Inflation being nearly 3%.

Many of the so called cuts will result in massive increases on the social security budget.


Oh and if we're going by public support I'd say that you're credibility in Merthyr or this forum is at far lower level's than Labour's at the moment.


That would be interesting to see. Have you done a recent opinion poll..?


No, and unfortunately the Merthyr council website won't load for me at the moment so I can't fetch your Councillor election results.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:30 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
bluearmy1990 wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
Dylanthomas wrote:I thought you had your own political board


Just spreading the word as wide as possible that Labour are a bunch of cunts!!!


Your language is appalling


It is my language of choice and my personal opinion.





Adam, you should go for Youth Police Commissioner with language like that :laughing6:

Only joking :laughing6:

Hope you enjoyed the F1 last week. Watch out for an improved Jenson performance next week :ayatollah:


:lol: :lol: :lol: Yeah I feel her pain!!!!!!

Loved the Grand Prix mate as the issue with the Red Bulls was great veiwing!!!

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:32 pm

Aramore wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
Aramore wrote:
Angry Man wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/resentful-taxpayers-prompt-labour-to-get-tough-on-benefits-8563574.html

Public support shows that Labour are 'out of touch!!!!!' :lol:


The public believe the deficit is falling.

The public believe that the majority of the cuts have already happened.

The public also believed, when asked, that social security should increase y the rate of inflation rather than 1%. Inflation being nearly 3%.

Many of the so called cuts will result in massive increases on the social security budget.


Oh and if we're going by public support I'd say that you're credibility in Merthyr or this forum is at far lower level's than Labour's at the moment.


That would be interesting to see. Have you done a recent opinion poll..?


No, and unfortunately the Merthyr council website won't load for me at the moment so I can't fetch your Councillor election results.


So are you saying that your meaning of recent is polling from 12 months ago..? Jesus, dont apply to be a political researcher mate FFS!!! :lol:

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:33 pm

Angry Man wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:I do not support any political party, but how on earth are these benefit reforms fair?


because working people should have more income than non-working people!!!!


What you really mean is: 'Every person in work should earn more than every person who isn't in work'

I don't necessarily disagree.

The problem I have with the way the Tories are targetting the Welfare system is that it is pretty clear that children are going to be ones that suffer. Wayne and Waynetta's benefits decrease, they still buy their fags, shitrag magazine and have every channel on sky, the kids just miss a meal to pay for it.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:36 pm

Angry Man wrote:
Aramore wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
Aramore wrote:
Angry Man wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/resentful-taxpayers-prompt-labour-to-get-tough-on-benefits-8563574.html

Public support shows that Labour are 'out of touch!!!!!' :lol:


The public believe the deficit is falling.

The public believe that the majority of the cuts have already happened.

The public also believed, when asked, that social security should increase y the rate of inflation rather than 1%. Inflation being nearly 3%.

Many of the so called cuts will result in massive increases on the social security budget.


Oh and if we're going by public support I'd say that you're credibility in Merthyr or this forum is at far lower level's than Labour's at the moment.


That would be interesting to see. Have you done a recent opinion poll..?


No, and unfortunately the Merthyr council website won't load for me at the moment so I can't fetch your Councillor election results.


So are you saying that your meaning of recent is polling from 12 months ago..? Jesus, dont apply to be a political researcher mate FFS!!! :lol:


Oh I'm sorry, have you done anything in the last 12 months that would increase you popularity within Methyr?

I was under the impression that all you had done this then was publish "sick" jokes about cockle pickers, receive a three year ban from office and "allegedly" threaten to send some associates around to some tenants. Do you believe that would have improved your reputation within the Merthyr area?

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:39 pm

Angry Man wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:I do not support any political party, but how on earth are these benefit reforms fair?


because working people should have more income than non-working people!!!!


What you really mean is: 'Every person in work should earn more than every person who isn't in work'

I don't necessarily disagree.

The problem I have with the way the Tories are targetting the Welfare system is that it is pretty clear that children are going to be ones that suffer. Wayne and Waynetta's benefits decrease, they still buy their fags, shitrag magazine and have every channel on sky, the kids just miss a meal to pay for it.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:39 pm

Angry Man wrote:
Aramore wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
Aramore wrote:
Angry Man wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/resentful-taxpayers-prompt-labour-to-get-tough-on-benefits-8563574.html

Public support shows that Labour are 'out of touch!!!!!' :lol:


The public believe the deficit is falling.

The public believe that the majority of the cuts have already happened.

The public also believed, when asked, that social security should increase y the rate of inflation rather than 1%. Inflation being nearly 3%.

Many of the so called cuts will result in massive increases on the social security budget.


Oh and if we're going by public support I'd say that you're credibility in Merthyr or this forum is at far lower level's than Labour's at the moment.


That would be interesting to see. Have you done a recent opinion poll..?


No, and unfortunately the Merthyr council website won't load for me at the moment so I can't fetch your Councillor election results.


So are you saying that your meaning of recent is polling from 12 months ago..? Jesus, dont apply to be a political researcher mate FFS!!! :lol:


Oh I'm sorry, have you done anything in the last 12 months that would increase you popularity within Methyr?

I was under the impression that all you had done this then was publish "sick" jokes about cockle pickers, receive a three year ban from office and "allegedly" threaten to send some associates around to some tenants. Do you believe that would have improved your reputation within the Merthyr area?

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:39 pm

Angry Man wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:I do not support any political party, but how on earth are these benefit reforms fair?


because working people should have more income than non-working people!!!!



Trouble is Brownie people that people are starting to see through this political Tory shit!The way to make sure that working people are on better money the the unemployed is to pay them more.I'm pretty sure if working people struggle to make ends meet without claiming top-up benifits then the unemployed must be really struggling.Add to that this kunt of a chancellor justifying his political position by using a child murderer as an example is scrrapping the barrel even for a Tory.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:40 pm

evanmorgan wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:I do not support any political party, but how on earth are these benefit reforms fair?


because working people should have more income than non-working people!!!!


What you really mean is: 'Every person in work should earn more than every person who isn't in work'

I don't necessarily disagree.

The problem I have with the way the Tories are targetting the Welfare system is that it is pretty clear that children are going to be ones that suffer. Wayne and Waynetta's benefits decrease, they still buy their fags, shitrag magazine and have every channel on sky, the kids just miss a meal to pay for it.


Well if means that the Wayne and Waynettas of this world think twice of having kids because of the affordability of it all.

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:42 pm

Angry Man wrote:
evanmorgan wrote:
Angry Man wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:I do not support any political party, but how on earth are these benefit reforms fair?


because working people should have more income than non-working people!!!!


What you really mean is: 'Every person in work should earn more than every person who isn't in work'

I don't necessarily disagree.

The problem I have with the way the Tories are targetting the Welfare system is that it is pretty clear that children are going to be ones that suffer. Wayne and Waynetta's benefits decrease, they still buy their fags, shitrag magazine and have every channel on sky, the kids just miss a meal to pay for it.


Well if means that the Wayne and Waynettas of this world think twice of having kids because of the affordability of it all.


So basically you're saying "The poor should not have children"...?

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:46 pm

splottbluebird48 wrote:My understanding is there is more tax evasion than benefit fraud in money terms


Being self employed I wish somebody could show me how not to pay the amount of tax I pay every year :( :(

Re: Labour now do a U-turn on Welfare!!!

Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:47 pm

Angry Man wrote:
ninianblue wrote:
splottbluebird48 wrote:My understanding is there is more tax evasion than benefit fraud in money terms

yeah. and i bet most of them are politicians, 2nd morgages. a gardener for the 2nd home. politics, is a job for the boys, gravy train etc, and they wonder why people dont vote, i used to be a labour voter, for the working man. thats all gone now, i dont bother voting no more theres no point. new labour. is conservative. a case of. as long as im alright jack. wheres my 2 fingers smiley :x


Always use your vote mate even if you spoil it because you dont like any of the choices.

its a bit like saying, who do you want to win the prem. man ure. man city or chelsea? i dont care. there all over paid wankers. like politicians :ayatollah: :lol: