Have a read of this

Just saw this on the Watford board after having a look through that thread they have on us, and thought it was a pretty good post to be fair to the person who said it:-

Everyone's so quick to attack Cardiff fans for apparently putting up with a big change that has happened to their club. But it's their club. It's been with the fans in most cases for their whole life. The changes to the kit and badge: it will have been weird for some, frustrating for others, some will have been angry, some won't have cared. At the end of the day though, the supporters that cared enough to try and change the owners mind tried their best and some may be still trying. But what else are they supposed to do? Stop supporting the team they've followed their whole lives? Change their own life because one person (or a few people) decided to change a colour scheme or two?

Football is an institution, and changes within it are usually governed by big money. This fact is a world away from us as individual supporters, who enjoy going to games, watching the team we've followed our whole lives, feeling happiness, sadness, anger, frustration, whatever emotion, due to what we see each week. All we want to do as supporters is carry on supporting. Carry on devoting a certain amount of time and effort and emotion and money to this entity that we call our club. There's very little to 'our club', whichever one it may be, other than its supporters. Everything changes though. Even the supporters. Over the years I mean. But an individual supporter doesn't change their club unless something big happens. (Or if they aren't what I'd call a devoted supporter. I doubt very much many on here are interested in people who change their club a few times in their lives without some big big reason.)

If you want to berate a Cardiff City fan for continuing to support their club when they change their kit colours, or spend irresponsibly, you better be pretty sure you'd be a million miles from that club you grew up supporting if you decided the owner didn't have the best interests of your club at heart. But you wouldn't. Or, rather, very few of you would. Or, you'd have to think that one colour change was one colour change too far for you to continue to enjoy spending a certain amount of time being happy, sad, angry, frustrated, whatever. A colour change would stop you from wanting to invest that time, effort, emotion and money?

It's Cardiff City. As long as it remains in Cardiff and the changes aren't big enough to stop the matchday experience (or just the general experience of being a CCFC supporter) being roughly what it has been through each supporter's life, why should these supporters stop going, why should they be lambasted by supporters of other teams who would, if in the same position with their club, act in a very similar way?

It's good to ask 'How did you feel when this and this happened to your club?' but there are so many people here so quick to say 'You're a **** fan', 'You're a **** club with no history', alongside these questions that it's just inane, uninteresting and gives us no insight into what it is to be a Cardiff supporter today - a weird, intriguing state of affairs just ignored by those who'd rather aimlessly criticise than take an interest whatsoever, instead choosing to boast their supposed superiority because something almost 100% out of their control matches their interests more than the corresponding thing for that other supporter.

I don't know. It's just pointless having a go. And that was kind of stream of consciousness so apologies if it makes little sense. (Also apologies if you really don't want to hear this *******s, you have every right to thing I'm wrong, boring or am missing the point.)

very good post tbh, sums up alot! any fan can say 'if that happened to my club i'd leave with no hesitation', but if it happened would they? would they give up something they love doing so much? no.. to me going to watch Cardiff games is a huge part kf my life, keeps me entertained (sane more like) after boring weeks in university, i cant just give it up, and neither would most fans of any club

very good post tbh, sums up alot! any fan can say 'if that happened to my club i'd leave with no hesitation', but if it happened would they? would they give up something they love doing so much? no.. to me going to watch Cardiff games is a huge part kf my life, keeps me entertained (sane more like) after boring weeks in university, i cant just give it up, and neither would most fans of any club

Spot on, mate. If it happened to any other club I doubt many would walk and they can say they would but I really doubt it.

very good post tbh, sums up alot! any fan can say 'if that happened to my club i'd leave with no hesitation', but if it happened would they? would they give up something they love doing so much? no.. to me going to watch Cardiff games is a huge part kf my life, keeps me entertained (sane more like) after boring weeks in university, i cant just give it up, and neither would most fans of any club

Spot on, mate. If it happened to any other club I doubt many would walk and they can say they would but I really doubt it.

they wouldnt walk away, simple as that! if something is such a big part of your life you cant just say 'thats it'. it would be harder to leave than they think! some have walked away here but have eventually come back! some havent come back, but 23000 still go!

very good post tbh, sums up alot! any fan can say 'if that happened to my club i'd leave with no hesitation', but if it happened would they? would they give up something they love doing so much? no.. to me going to watch Cardiff games is a huge part kf my life, keeps me entertained (sane more like) after boring weeks in university, i cant just give it up, and neither would most fans of any club

Spot on, mate. If it happened to any other club I doubt many would walk and they can say they would but I really doubt it.

they wouldnt walk away, simple as that! if something is such a big part of your life you cant just say 'thats it'. it would be harder to leave than they think! some have walked away here but have eventually come back! some havent come back, but 23000 still go!

Exactly. A very very small minority have walked.

Exactly this is why I take no interest in what other clubs say about us. They didnt have to face what happend and having an owner like Tan. We just have to keep fighting to get the blue back eventually

Nevermind Watford fans, Some of our fans need to read this.

Nevermind Watford fans, Some of our fans need to read this.

Oh they will! but as it doesn't fit in with their agenda they either won't respond, or find an excuse to belittle it.
Will say he makes a very good analysis of things.

Suprised Paxman hasnt had his say yet

Suprised Paxman hasnt had his say yet

You've probably just jinxed it.

Excellent post!!

Nevermind Watford fans, Some of our fans need to read this.

This !

Suprised Paxman hasnt had his say yet

You've probably just jinxed it.

Yes it's just his type of argument No ending?

Suprised Paxman hasnt had his say yet

You've probably just jinxed it.

Yes it's just his type of argument No ending?

A thread like this will be more exciting than Christmas for him.

has it really took a fan from another club to come out and say this for some of us to actually realize what is going on..

i for one would never walk away from the club its a massive part of my life the only other way i can describe going to watch Cardiff is like going to spend some time with what i feel like is another family to me, i love the match day experience and always have since my first game

the love for this club is a great love and one like no other..

when i get asked by non football fans "why do you spend so much money and care so much about Cardiff its only football"

well its obviously something they will never understand

Well put, well said, a lot of football fans who have a go at us need to read this too. Glad someone from the outside of Cardiff City understands our position.

Exactly how I feel - wrestled with my feelings, but won't give up the club I support because of one idiot's ludicrous decision to rebrand the club.

The Watford fan is a sellout.

Suprised Paxman hasnt had his say yet

You've probably just jinxed it.

Yes it's just his type of argument No ending?

Resident keyboard sociopath lives in a different time zone (as well as on a different planet) but he will be along eventually.

Good piece fair play: your love for your Club is unconditional and Players, Managers and Chairmen come and go but it is the supporters that always remain and that's why i always have utmost respect for the 20 odd Rochdale or Halifax fans that turned up at Ninian Park during our dungeon days and although we took the piss they are TRUE fans

Finally an outsider who understands.