Watford thoughts on us

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they have a shit ground, shit fans and shit club

hope they enjoy the championship next year

I love the way they show the new stadium as a negative.
They have a shit hole ground with only 3 sides.

Hopefully they think a lot less of us when we take the 3 points on Saturday

I love the way they show the new stadium as a negative.
They have a shit hole ground with only 3 sides.

Yeah that is amazing.

'we still have our old ground!'

'Yes, yes you do... '

CARDIFF:
OWNERS- FOREIGN.
GROUND- MEETS UEFA GRADE STANDARD, CAN BE INCREASED RATHER EASILY.
FAN BASE- PASSIONATE DESPITE RECENT LOWS, CATCHMENT AREA HAS POTENTIAL TO EXPAND WITH SUCCESS AND DEMAND.
PREMIER EXPERIENCE- VIRGINS.


WATFORD:
OWNERS- FOREIGN.
GROUND- OLD DECREPIT,NO ROOM FOR EXPANSION OR UPGRADE.
FAN BASE- PLASTICS COME OUT IN OCCASIONAL PREM SEASON BUT SPEND MOST OF TIME SUPPORTING OTHER LONDON CLUBS.
PREMIER EXPERIENCE- SEVERAL ATTEMPTS, NEVER GOOD ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN.

I find it funny that we are effectively pissing this league and are complete self haters while the other clubs near the top (notably Palace and Watford) think they are the best thing since sliced bread, believe they play brilliant passing football and that they are just a bit unlucky, think the sun shines out of their players arses, constantly defend indefensible actions by the club/manager, watford fans even seem to enjoy being Udineses shop window..

We seem to be the only club whos fans have any sense of realism, even if we do take the 'glass half empty' shit a bit too far sometimes.

Financial Situation

Still risking their future to keep up with their beautiful passing cousins in the white shirts. I guess not everything changes...


It's a shame their Swan friends didn't sell their identity, or they might be challenging to become a premiership team, instead of scraping out results in the championship. Oh, wait..


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Incoming

What a suprise....the resident plum focuses on that.

Financial Situation

Still risking their future to keep up with their beautiful passing cousins in the white shirts. I guess not everything changes...


It's a shame their Swan friends didn't sell their identity, or they might be challenging to become a premiership team, instead of scraping out results in the championship. Oh, wait..


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Incoming

Nah, I don't care what they think really.
Banter is fun though.
Speaking of identity, they have a cheek to even comment on it.

No more risking our future than the majority of PL clubs and at least 5-10 championship clubs.

Financial Situation

Still risking their future to keep up with their beautiful passing cousins in the white shirts. I guess not everything changes...


It's a shame their Swan friends didn't sell their identity, or they might be challenging to become a premiership team, instead of scraping out results in the championship. Oh, wait..


.................

Incoming

I would like to just point out that I have no jack cousins or friends the cheeky bastards

No more risking our future than the majority of PL clubs and at least 5-10 championship clubs.

Spot on.

What a suprise....the resident plum focuses on that.

I just realised who it was I was replying to.
Ah well, I should have known by the content.

No more risking our future than the majority of PL clubs and at least 5-10 championship clubs.

Name me another club that has debt levels SIX times the clubs yearly income while having a wage bill at 120% of annual income.

You won't be able to as there aren't any.

No more risking our future than the majority of PL clubs and at least 5-10 championship clubs.

Name me another club that has debt levels SIX times the clubs yearly income while having a wage bill at 120% of annual income.

You won't be able to as there aren't any.

CBF to look for numbers but at a guess, Leicester and Bolton would be close. Difference is, we are going to get a healthy slice of the premier league pie next year and they aren't

VT will convert debt to equity and we will be a debt free premier league club, or that is how my day dreams go anyway.

How do you know our wage bill or income for this year?

No more risking our future than the majority of PL clubs and at least 5-10 championship clubs.

Name me another club that has debt levels SIX times the clubs yearly income while having a wage bill at 120% of annual income.

You won't be able to as there aren't any.

CBF to look for numbers but at a guess, Leicester and Bolton would be close. Difference is, we are going to get a healthy slice of the premier league pie next year and they aren't

VT will convert debt to equity and we will be a debt free premier league club, or that is how my day dreams go anyway.

How do you know our wage bill or income for this year?

Well then you are wrong to assume as neither do. Our income was around £15m last year with wages around the £16m mark. Wages have increased majorly and I very much doubt the income has increased significantly - if at all. As last year we had a cup run.

All this talk about colour and badge is rubbish- they are jealous that we are going up!

All this talk about colour and badge is rubbish- they are jealous that we are going up!

No more risking our future than the majority of PL clubs and at least 5-10 championship clubs.

Name me another club that has debt levels SIX times the clubs yearly income while having a wage bill at 120% of annual income.

You won't be able to as there aren't any.

CBF to look for numbers but at a guess, Leicester and Bolton would be close. Difference is, we are going to get a healthy slice of the premier league pie next year and they aren't

VT will convert debt to equity and we will be a debt free premier league club, or that is how my day dreams go anyway.

How do you know our wage bill or income for this year?

Well then you are wrong to assume as neither do. Our income was around £15m last year with wages around the £16m mark. Wages have increased majorly and I very much doubt the income has increased significantly - if at all. As last year we had a cup run.

What are the figures for Bolton and Leicester respectively, at work and cant get anything to load. I remember boltons wage bill was > 50 mil when they got relegated, pretty much all the same players there and Prem clubs aren't know for putting intelligent clauses in contracts so gotta assume its at least 45 mil, surely their turnover in the championship wont be > 40 mil even including parachute payments. As for debt, they were in 120 million debt in 2011 I think.

Either way, it doesn't really matter if we are the worst, the plain fact is the majority of clubs in the Prem and the Championship couldn't service their debts if they were asked to repay them now. All the clubs are at the point where they are relying on a benefactor (VT etc) so its no real difference. What practical difference would it make if we were 800 million in debt to VT rather than 80?

Changed colours more times than some tramps have changed pants and want to have a go at us.

Having a go at the Scottish guy that they wanted to keep and a go at fans who blow them out the water.

Watford are irrelevant as a football club.

someone post this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watford_F.C. in reply to cthulhu to educate him on his teams multiple kit and badge changes please as my account has yet to be verified.....also remind him that leicester blackburn and id imagine bolton and a few others have spent more than us. Ta.

No more risking our future than the majority of PL clubs and at least 5-10 championship clubs.

Name me another club that has debt levels SIX times the clubs yearly income while having a wage bill at 120% of annual income.

You won't be able to as there aren't any.

CBF to look for numbers but at a guess, Leicester and Bolton would be close. Difference is, we are going to get a healthy slice of the premier league pie next year and they aren't

VT will convert debt to equity and we will be a debt free premier league club, or that is how my day dreams go anyway.

How do you know our wage bill or income for this year?

Well then you are wrong to assume as neither do. Our income was around £15m last year with wages around the £16m mark. Wages have increased majorly and I very much doubt the income has increased significantly - if at all. As last year we had a cup run.

What are the figures for Bolton and Leicester respectively, at work and cant get anything to load. I remember boltons wage bill was > 50 mil when they got relegated, pretty much all the same players there and Prem clubs aren't know for putting intelligent clauses in contracts so gotta assume its at least 45 mil, surely their turnover in the championship wont be > 40 mil even including parachute payments. As for debt, they were in 120 million debt in 2011 I think.

Either way, it doesn't really matter if we are the worst, the plain fact is the majority of clubs in the Prem and the Championship couldn't service their debts if they were asked to repay them now. All the clubs are at the point where they are relying on a benefactor (VT etc) so its no real difference. What practical difference would it make if we were 800 million in debt to VT rather than 80?

Bolton are looking to reduce their wage bill. They were paying normal wages for a club of their size and income at the time. Relegation from the premier kills clubs due to this reason, see Portsmouth, they aren't gambling now either as they have their hands tied with their financial position forced upon them, they can just hope they go straight back up.

We are paying ridiculous wages and transfer fees for a club of our size and position in the football league - that's why we are gambling, where as Bolton are in a poor financial position due to a relegation.

As for whats the difference in being in £800m debt or £80m debt - although it's closer to £120m as the stadium was down as a saleable asset, which it isn't really. Just creative book keeping.... That is down to VT. should we get relegated, I don't see why he would continue to foot a £20 million plus bill every year to keep us afloat with the minimal exposure of the Championship when he would have got his money's worth already after one season in the prem if he does what some believe and secure long term advertising contracts with his own businesses.

Watford. Not quite London. Not quite anywhere. It should be renamed Watfordstan as its full of Pakistani druggies and groomers. Make sure you sing "Cos Watfords a shithole" before, during and after the game because that's what it is. Why anyone would be stupid enough to choose to live there is beyond belief.

No more risking our future than the majority of PL clubs and at least 5-10 championship clubs.

Name me another club that has debt levels SIX times the clubs yearly income while having a wage bill at 120% of annual income.

You won't be able to as there aren't any.

CBF to look for numbers but at a guess, Leicester and Bolton would be close. Difference is, we are going to get a healthy slice of the premier league pie next year and they aren't

VT will convert debt to equity and we will be a debt free premier league club, or that is how my day dreams go anyway.

How do you know our wage bill or income for this year?

Well then you are wrong to assume as neither do. Our income was around £15m last year with wages around the £16m mark. Wages have increased majorly and I very much doubt the income has increased significantly - if at all. As last year we had a cup run.

What are the figures for Bolton and Leicester respectively, at work and cant get anything to load. I remember boltons wage bill was > 50 mil when they got relegated, pretty much all the same players there and Prem clubs aren't know for putting intelligent clauses in contracts so gotta assume its at least 45 mil, surely their turnover in the championship wont be > 40 mil even including parachute payments. As for debt, they were in 120 million debt in 2011 I think.

Either way, it doesn't really matter if we are the worst, the plain fact is the majority of clubs in the Prem and the Championship couldn't service their debts if they were asked to repay them now. All the clubs are at the point where they are relying on a benefactor (VT etc) so its no real difference. What practical difference would it make if we were 800 million in debt to VT rather than 80?

Bolton are looking to reduce their wage bill. They were paying normal wages for a club of their size and income at the time. Relegation from the premier kills clubs due to this reason, see Portsmouth, they aren't gambling now either as they have their hands tied with their financial position forced upon them, they can just hope they go straight back up.

We are paying ridiculous wages and transfer fees for a club of our size and position in the football league - that's why we are gambling, where as Bolton are in a poor financial position due to a relegation.

As for whats the difference in being in £800m debt or £80m debt - although it's closer to £120m as the stadium was down as a saleable asset, which it isn't really. Just creative book keeping.... That is down to VT. should we get relegated, I don't see why he would continue to foot a £20 million plus bill every year to keep us afloat with the minimal exposure of the Championship when he would have got his money's worth already after one season in the prem if he does what some believe and secure long term advertising contracts with his own businesses.

Same drivel as Canton Magic.PTBG

They are right about everything bar the stadium, Ninian Park was amazing but it was time to move to bigger modern stadium.

They are right about everything bar the stadium, Ninian Park was amazing but it was time to move to bigger modern stadium.

Spot on, must admit some off our fans have got over excited on the fourm but its what i read on here by most of you. The ones who agree to the Rebrand etc are the ones i cant work out, sells outs.

Grumpy horse is a secret hornet i reckon!!

They are right about everything bar the stadium, Ninian Park was amazing but it was time to move to bigger modern stadium.

Spot on, must admit some off our fans have got over excited on the fourm but its what i read on here by most of you. The ones who agree to the Rebrand etc are the ones i cant work out, sells outs.

Grumpy horse is a secret hornet i reckon!!

Secret hornet, I'm on a CCFC message board. Now why are you a regular poster on here?

They are right about everything bar the stadium, Ninian Park was amazing but it was time to move to bigger modern stadium.

Spot on, must admit some off our fans have got over excited on the fourm but its what i read on here by most of you. The ones who agree to the Rebrand etc are the ones i cant work out, sells outs.

Grumpy horse is a secret hornet i reckon!!

Secret hornet, I'm on a CCFC message board. Now why are you a regular poster on here?

Cos i think its a good and fair site plus im bored at work.

PS the secret hornet was a joke grumpy.

Fair enough