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Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:33 pm

Firstly and most importantly , what a performance ! Well done malkey the team needed freshening up and you had the bollocks and know how to use our squad to its full potential :malky:
I have slagged jordan mutch off in the past for not trying hard enough but today he was sensational and looked a totally different player alongside kimbo and gunnarsson
Barnett looks a decent signing and won everything in the air but is slightly slow on the turn , maybe that's down to his lack of game time recently , looked great alongside turner :ayatollah:

Now that march !
I am pro blue through and through and was tempted to join the march but thought i would wait to see what type of march it was when coming through canton .
I was stood outside the Napier having a pint when they came down the road , there was two guys stood with a women and two kids , the women and kids were wearing red scarves the blokes normal clothes , the march started chanting wankers wankers wankers at them for wearing red ? Then at even more people as they progressed ! That is out of order and they just ruined what could have been a successful protest vehicle not just for today but future games . I was embarrassed to be a cardiff fan at that point and they lost my support and respect towards there protests . Actions like that are just deviding our allready fragile fan base and won't help matters at all , all it will do is turn more and more people away from the message they are trying to send out :!:
There were a few people who came out of the protest due to it aswell , sorry boys but you let yourselves down badly today , such a shame :oops:

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:48 pm

There's more of a divide between KCB themselves than there is altogether, no one is on the same wave length. There's no point protesting now. I find that incredibly harsh on people wearing red getting abused. The club could lose out on customers because of people being targeted/abused by the so called KCB brigade.

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:51 pm

thomasblue wrote:Firstly and most importantly , what a performance ! Well done malkey the team needed freshening up and you had the bollocks and know how to use our squad to its full potential :malky:
I have slagged jordan mutch off in the past for not trying hard enough but today he was sensational and looked a totally different player alongside kimbo and gunnarsson
Barnett looks a decent signing and won everything in the air but is slightly slow on the turn , maybe that's down to his lack of game time recently , looked great alongside turner :ayatollah:

Now that march !
I am pro blue through and through and was tempted to join the march but thought i would wait to see what type of march it was when coming through canton .
I was stood outside the Napier having a pint when they came down the road , there was two guys stood with a women and two kids , the women and kids were wearing red scarves the blokes normal clothes , the march started chanting wankers wankers wankers at them for wearing red ? Then at even more people as they progressed ! That is out of order and they just ruined what could have been a successful protest vehicle not just for today but future games . I was embarrassed to be a cardiff fan at that point and they lost my support and respect towards there protests . Actions like that are just deviding our allready fragile fan base and won't help matters at all , all it will do is turn more and more people away from the message they are trying to send out :!:
There were a few people who came out of the protest due to it aswell , sorry boys but you let yourselves down badly today , such a shame :oops:


And that's the reason others won't join these groups

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:51 pm

I Bleed Blue wrote:There's more of a divide between KCB themselves than there is altogether, no one is on the same wave length. There's no point protesting now. I find that incredibly harsh on people wearing red getting abused. The club could lose out on customers because of people being targeted/abused by the so called KCB brigade.


I agree - nobody should be abused for their choices or opinions/beliefs - however there have also been threats the other way - red fans threatening anyone anti-rebrand.

At the end of the day, what Tan has caused is terrible.

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:55 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
I Bleed Blue wrote:There's more of a divide between KCB themselves than there is altogether, no one is on the same wave length. There's no point protesting now. I find that incredibly harsh on people wearing red getting abused. The club could lose out on customers because of people being targeted/abused by the so called KCB brigade.


I agree - nobody should be abused for their choices or opinions/beliefs - however there have also been threats the other way - red fans threatening anyone anti-rebrand.

At the end of the day, what Tan has caused is terrible.

People don't like it but a lot of our fans come to take their families and enjoy themselves, the accolades show how the club have progressed, I won't be surprised if those kids are like I don't want to go again.

Agreed though but the protests for KCB are pointless when no one is frontlining is, with you fair enough you're running BlueForLife and you're thinking about things before doing it, you're not just deciding to go protest when no one knows what to do, this is what some peoples problems are, they want to protest but it's no good just turning up etc making fools of themselves

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:58 pm

They let themselves down badly they had a good chance to show all fans as they passed through canton they were a serious peaceful protest group to try and get a compromise on the rebrand and they blew it !
If they had gone passed me peacefully and respectfully I along with the other boys I was drinking with would have joined them in there next march/protest !
Shouting abuse at fellow supporters because there young children like wearing the current club colour is disgusting and I'm guessing they lost a hell of a lot of support and future support for there cause today :oops:

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:01 pm

I Bleed Blue wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
I Bleed Blue wrote:There's more of a divide between KCB themselves than there is altogether, no one is on the same wave length. There's no point protesting now. I find that incredibly harsh on people wearing red getting abused. The club could lose out on customers because of people being targeted/abused by the so called KCB brigade.


I agree - nobody should be abused for their choices or opinions/beliefs - however there have also been threats the other way - red fans threatening anyone anti-rebrand.

At the end of the day, what Tan has caused is terrible.

People don't like it but a lot of our fans come to take their families and enjoy themselves, the accolades show how the club have progressed, I won't be surprised if those kids are like I don't want to go again.

Agreed though but the protests for KCB are pointless when no one is frontlining is, with you fair enough you're running BlueForLife and you're thinking about things before doing it, you're not just deciding to go protest when no one knows what to do, this is what some peoples problems are, they want to protest but it's no good just turning up etc making fools of themselves


Unless protests are properly organised by someone who has experience of organising events etc. - they can do more harm than good.

Respect to the "kids" who organised today's march - they are fighting for what they believe & have every right to do that without being ridiculed/mocked for it. Nobody is going to take prt in a protest though, unless they know it's properly organised.

If they did chant at people wearing red, that's a massive own goal for them and makes them look rather stupid.

Accolades for family club of the year are great - but to say how wrong it is that "blue" abused "red" today, without pointing out that the opposite has also occurred is rather unfair.

Still.. 3-0! :ayatollah:

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:20 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
I agree - nobody should be abused for their choices or opinions/beliefs - however there have also been threats the other way - red fans threatening anyone anti-rebrand.

At the end of the day, what Tan has caused is terrible.


That is a cheap shot blaming VT for the individual behaviour of our fans :roll:

Also how can you claim things are 'terrible' when you compare our Asian owner with the one at Blackburn?

Ewood Park is in complete termoil and the club has no direction apart from heading for League 1.

In comparision we are on the verge of the Premier League and should go up as the first Welsh winners of the Football League Title. Yet toys are flying around all over the place because we play in red shirts (for now)

Sorry I would take VT everytime over the Venkeys and instead of moaning and crying may be you should count your lucky stars that we have the Malysian McDonalds baron over the Indian Chicken Pluckers.

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:22 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
I agree - nobody should be abused for their choices or opinions/beliefs - however there have also been threats the other way - red fans threatening anyone anti-rebrand.

At the end of the day, what Tan has caused is terrible.


That is a cheap shot blaming VT for the individual behaviour of our fans :roll:

Also how can you claim things are 'terrible' when you compare our Asian owner with the one at Blackburn?

Ewood Park is in complete termoil and the club has no direction apart from heading for League 1.

In comparision we are on the verge of the Premier League and should go up as the first Welsh winners of the Football League Title. Yet toys are flying around all over the place because we play in red shirts (for now)

Sorry I would take VT everytime over the Venkeys and instead of moaning and crying may be you should count your lucky stars that we have the Malysian McDonalds baron over the Indian Chicken Pluckers.


Tan has created this mess by enforcing this rebrand...

What gives you the impression we are going to automatically change back? :roll:

You seem to be trying to have an argument about Venky's/Tan, when it hasn't even been discussed?! :lol:

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:34 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
I agree - nobody should be abused for their choices or opinions/beliefs - however there have also been threats the other way - red fans threatening anyone anti-rebrand.

At the end of the day, what Tan has caused is terrible.


That is a cheap shot blaming VT for the individual behaviour of our fans :roll:

Also how can you claim things are 'terrible' when you compare our Asian owner with the one at Blackburn?

Ewood Park is in complete termoil and the club has no direction apart from heading for League 1.

In comparision we are on the verge of the Premier League and should go up as the first Welsh winners of the Football League Title. Yet toys are flying around all over the place because we play in red shirts (for now)

Sorry I would take VT everytime over the Venkeys and instead of moaning and crying may be you should count your lucky stars that we have the Malysian McDonalds baron over the Indian Chicken Pluckers.


Tan has created this mess by enforcing this rebrand...

What gives you the impression we are going to automatically change back? :roll:

You seem to be trying to have an argument about Venky's/Tan, when it hasn't even been discussed?! :lol:


If you can't say anything constructive then why bother :roll:

Tan didn't enforce the rebrand, we the supporters accepted it by a very large majority because that majority had the sense and intelligence to understand that CCFC couldn't stand on its own two feet and needed VT's financial support.

I made a point about the Venky's as most stupid anti-rebranders claim they would prefer to play in blue and have a shit playing squad, rather than a team top of the league and playing in red. We saw that reality today as Blackburn were dire and I for one would never want that for Cardiff City.

Finally I honestly believe one day we will revert to blue, but it won't happen in the short to mediumterm. It seems strange to me that you would want to attack someone with that view :lol:

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:47 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
I agree - nobody should be abused for their choices or opinions/beliefs - however there have also been threats the other way - red fans threatening anyone anti-rebrand.

At the end of the day, what Tan has caused is terrible.


That is a cheap shot blaming VT for the individual behaviour of our fans :roll:

Also how can you claim things are 'terrible' when you compare our Asian owner with the one at Blackburn?

Ewood Park is in complete termoil and the club has no direction apart from heading for League 1.

In comparision we are on the verge of the Premier League and should go up as the first Welsh winners of the Football League Title. Yet toys are flying around all over the place because we play in red shirts (for now)

Sorry I would take VT everytime over the Venkeys and instead of moaning and crying may be you should count your lucky stars that we have the Malysian McDonalds baron over the Indian Chicken Pluckers.


Tan has created this mess by enforcing this rebrand...

What gives you the impression we are going to automatically change back? :roll:

You seem to be trying to have an argument about Venky's/Tan, when it hasn't even been discussed?! :lol:


If you can't say anything constructive then why bother :roll:

Tan didn't enforce the rebrand, we the supporters accepted it by a very large majority because that majority had the sense and intelligence to understand that CCFC couldn't stand on its own two feet and needed VT's financial support.

I made a point about the Venky's as most stupid anti-rebranders claim they would prefer to play in blue and have a shit playing squad, rather than a team top of the league and playing in red. We saw that reality today as Blackburn were dire and I for one would never want that for Cardiff City.

Finally I honestly believe one day we will revert to blue, but it won't happen in the short to mediumterm. It seems strange to me that you would want to attack someone with that view :lol:


So you aren't allowed to air opinions, if they aren't constructive? :sleepy2:

So, you assume that I hold that view. Well you were wrong to do that.. :thumbright:

Tan DID enforce the rebrand.

Where have I attacked anyone with that view? You're just making things up now.. :roll:

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:07 pm

thomasblue wrote:Firstly and most importantly , what a performance ! Well done malkey the team needed freshening up and you had the bollocks and know how to use our squad to its full potential :malky:
I have slagged jordan mutch off in the past for not trying hard enough but today he was sensational and looked a totally different player alongside kimbo and gunnarsson
Barnett looks a decent signing and won everything in the air but is slightly slow on the turn , maybe that's down to his lack of game time recently , looked great alongside turner :ayatollah:

Now that march !
I am pro blue through and through and was tempted to join the march but thought i would wait to see what type of march it was when coming through canton .
I was stood outside the Napier having a pint when they came down the road , there was two guys stood with a women and two kids , the women and kids were wearing red scarves the blokes normal clothes , the march started chanting wankers wankers wankers at them for wearing red ? Then at even more people as they progressed ! That is out of order and they just ruined what could have been a successful protest vehicle not just for today but future games . I was embarrassed to be a cardiff fan at that point and they lost my support and respect towards there protests . Actions like that are just deviding our allready fragile fan base and won't help matters at all , all it will do is turn more and more people away from the message they are trying to send out :!:
There were a few people who came out of the protest due to it aswell , sorry boys but you let yourselves down badly today , such a shame :oops:


Do not think for one moment we have a fragile fan base for various reasons almost 20,000 and counting have,are or had accepting the rebrand the K C B and F C Cardiff coupled with these ill attempted protest marches are falling apart at the seams and just getting more and more embarrassing :o

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:21 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
I Bleed Blue wrote:There's more of a divide between KCB themselves than there is altogether, no one is on the same wave length. There's no point protesting now. I find that incredibly harsh on people wearing red getting abused. The club could lose out on customers because of people being targeted/abused by the so called KCB brigade.


I agree - nobody should be abused for their choices or opinions/beliefs - however there have also been threats the other way - red fans threatening anyone anti-rebrand.

At the end of the day, what Tan has caused is terrible.


Anyone who shouts abuse at Children are a disgrace, say it as it is.

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:21 pm

Correct Magners

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:45 pm

Judging by the silence of the people on the march tonight I'm guessing there embarrassed by there actions :oops: good

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:07 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
I Bleed Blue wrote:There's more of a divide between KCB themselves than there is altogether, no one is on the same wave length. There's no point protesting now. I find that incredibly harsh on people wearing red getting abused. The club could lose out on customers because of people being targeted/abused by the so called KCB brigade.


I agree - nobody should be abused for their choices or opinions/beliefs - however there have also been threats the other way - red fans threatening anyone anti-rebrand.

At the end of the day, what Tan has caused is terrible.


Somebody on another post called Warnock the great deflector. This is not aimed personally at you but I think Warnock should take second place to city fans. Regardless of your views on the rebrand we are all accountable for our own actions. Tan has not driven a wedge between city fans, our own pride, arrogance and idiocy has done that.

Re: Happy and disgusted

Mon Apr 01, 2013 11:27 pm

I happily haven't been in full arguements about the rebrand.

No-one has been angels in this.. it will always work both ways.