I blame Coleman for tonight

We was doing alright at 1-0, then Coleman puts Jazz Richards on, goes defensive and allows Croatia to have more of the ball. We dropped deeper instead of continuing our pressing game. Modric had more time on the ball to pull the strings and eventually, Croatia carved us open. How deep were we for their first goal? In the first half we would have pressed Lovren to stop him shooting.

Croatia were obviously going to have a go at us in the second half, but with our weak defence (Collins missed a number of headers from crosses which could have cost us. Gunter I'm sorry is not up to international level), I thought it was suicidal for us to sit back and go more defensive. It's a shame because we deserved to be 1-0 up at half time. We kept the ball well and didn't allow Croatia to settle. I think there is only one man to blame for our defeat tonight.

I agree. We should have pressed for a second and killed the game off instead of bringing Kanu off. Negative tactics by coleman which cost us imo.

Yes it was a poor mistake to make by Coleman but overall thought we did very well. But I think your wrong with Collins the players who cost us for the goals was Gunter (what the hell was he doing for their winner) and Williams. Also Myhill should have done better for their 1st

The whole of the second half was the same - them scoring was inevitable given the negative tactics he employed from the start of the second half

I'm looking at tonight positively. I wasn't a Coleman fan but he's won me over these past two games. Yes, we were negative in the second half but who is to say that if we had gone for the second goal we wouldn't have lost 3-1 or 4-1? I'm just proud of the lads after tonight and it's another step in the right direction.

I give credit to Coleman for tonight, it was a good performance.

Our bench was as follows:

12 Price
21 fon Williams
13 Lynch
14 Nyatanga
15 Ricketts
16 Richards
18 Tudur-Jones
17 Church
19 Vokes
20 Easter


All of those players are not up to Croatia's standard, he needed to make changes due to tired legs and regardless of what sort of tactics he used when he made the changes Croatia were on top and piling on the pressure anyway. Croatia had the ball for the majority of the second half, and there wasn't much we could do about it, Jazz is obviously a more defensive player than Robson-Kanu but it didn't result in any sort of significant impact in to the way we were set up and to the mentality we had. Croatia's quality told in the end, we were not architects of our own demise and it was due to good attacking play from the opposition.

Hal Robson Kanu was dying on his arse by the 60th minute, he needed to bring someone on. For me I would have brought on Easter. I won't hold it against him, he's doing a good job.

We was doing alright at 1-0, then Coleman puts Jazz Richards on, goes defensive and allows Croatia to have more of the ball. We dropped deeper instead of continuing our pressing game. Modric had more time on the ball to pull the strings and eventually, Croatia carved us open. How deep were we for their first goal? In the first half we would have pressed Lovren to stop him shooting.

Croatia were obviously going to have a go at us in the second half, but with our weak defence (Collins missed a number of headers from crosses which could have cost us. Gunter I'm sorry is not up to international level), I thought it was suicidal for us to sit back and go more defensive. It's a shame because we deserved to be 1-0 up at half time. We kept the ball well and didn't allow Croatia to settle. I think there is only one man to blame for our defeat tonight.

Firstly it's we 'were', not 'was'. Jazz Richards was probably the best we had on the bench, did you see it? Not too much to choose from. As for their first goal, Lovren was about 25-30 yards out, wasn't he? I think you'd have to credit to the quality of strike. I feel we pressed him enough. Myhill should've made a better fist of it, though.

Considering Collins hasn't played international football too often over the past 18 months, I think he did excellently tonight. Of course, you must pick holes in a good performance, being such an FM geek. Gunter was OK, but it must be remembered that Adam Matthews (who would normally start) is currently injured.

You may as well not have said anything about tonight's game at all, since you have nothing of any note to say

I give credit to Coleman for tonight, it was a good performance.

Our bench was as follows:

12 Price
21 fon Williams
13 Lynch
14 Nyatanga
15 Ricketts
16 Richards
18 Tudur-Jones
17 Church
19 Vokes
20 Easter


All of those players are not up to Croatia's standard, he needed to make changes due to tired legs and regardless of what sort of tactics he used when he made the changes Croatia were on top and piling on the pressure anyway. Croatia had the ball for the majority of the second half, and there wasn't much we could do about it, Jazz is obviously a more defensive player than Robson-Kanu but it didn't result in any sort of significant impact in to the way we were set up and to the mentality we had. Croatia's quality told in the end, we were not architects of our own demise and it was due to good attacking play from the opposition.

i agree, f**k all to do with tactics why we lost, tired legs and croatias class cost us the game not coleman give the guy a break ffs

Obviously they have better players than us. Fresher legs? Who knows.
More experienced clearly. But when Croatia were making subs Cookie was chewing gum.
His response to that was to take Kanu off for Jazz.

Tactics have to be considered and not ignored when the result is viewed.

Nice to see the sensible posters have arrived..

the sooner people understand Wales' standing in the footballing hierarchy and the reasons for that then there will be an awful less heartache.

It's like Barnet looking for excuses to why they lost 2-1 to Liverpool. You need look no further than e fact they are far better than us and we did extremely well to get ourselves into a winning position for the majority of the match.

Spoke to soon. "Cookie was chewing gum" my god.

And what was the Croatian manager doing when we took the lead? Breathing? For shame on him

We were missing Ramsey and Matthews tonight, big losses.

Joe Allen will have hell of a job getting back into this side.

We were missing Ramsey and Matthews tonight, big losses.

Joe Allen will have hell of a job getting back into this side.

Ramsey, Matthews, Taylor, Collison and Allen missing tonight, that's half a team. A nation as small as Wales will always struggle when players like that are not available and the fact we gave as good as we got for 75 mins against a team 9th in the world is pretty impressive.

We were missing Ramsey and Matthews tonight, big losses.

Joe Allen will have hell of a job getting back into this side.

Ramsey, Matthews, Taylor, Collison and Allen missing tonight, that's half a team. A nation as small as Wales will always struggle when players like that are not available and the fact we gave as good as we got for 75 mins against a team 9th in the world is pretty impressive.

I fully back your opinion.

Coleman has made two errors these two games. One was not to call up Craig Davies who is great lump and did well when called upon at home to Scotland last year and not bringing on Easter for Robson Kanu. Jazz Richards is not good enough at the moment. People are upset because they don't see the Croats as a big name, they aren't but they are f*cking good and we ran them close tonight.

Well done Wales, spirited performance.

[quote="SCFC"]I give credit to Coleman for tonight, it was a good performance.

Our bench was as follows:

12 Price
21 fon Williams
13 Lynch
14 Nyatanga
15 Ricketts
16 Richards
18 Tudur-Jones
17 Church
19 Vokes
20 Easter


All of those players are not up to Croatia's standard, he needed to make changes due to tired legs and regardless of what sort of tactics he used when he made the changes Croatia were on top and piling on the pressure anyway. Croatia had the ball for the majority of the second half, and there wasn't much we could do about it, Jazz is obviously a more defensive player than Robson-Kanu but it didn't result in any sort of significant impact in to the way we wernd to the mentality we had. Croatia's quality told in the end, we were not architects of our own demise and it w due to good attacking play from the op

This is right. Modern football is a squad game. Young players like Williams we're knackered and Bale was on his feet. But while Croatia had top drawer subs to change the game we had Simon Church and Championship standard players.

We just didn't have the strength in depth to make any meaningful change second half.

The team played well though and play in a modern style where they try to keep possession so I've nocomplaints about Coleman for now.

We were missing Ramsey and Matthews tonight, big losses.

Joe Allen will have hell of a job getting back into this side.

Ramsey, Matthews, Taylor, Collison and Allen missing tonight, that's half a team. A nation as small as Wales will always struggle when players like that are not available and the fact we gave as good as we got for 75 mins against a team 9th in the world is pretty impressive.

I fully back your opinion.

Coleman has made two errors these two games. One was not to call up Craig Davies who is great lump and did well when called upon at home to Scotland last year and not bringing on Easter for Robson Kanu. Jazz Richards is not good enough at the moment. People are upset because they don't see the Croats as a big name, they aren't but they are f*cking good and we ran them close tonight.

Well done Wales, spirited performance.

I agree about Davies, I also think Jake Cassidy should have been called up as he looks a very good young player although I can see how playing for the U21's would benefit him more.

Jazz Richards is playing regularly for Palace and impressing, Easter couldn't get in the Palace team and has done well to get a call up really based on his debut against Charlton.

The positives from Coleman would have far outweighed the negatives such giving Jon Williams his chance up in Scotland and sticking with him last night.

This is right. Modern football is a squad game. Young players like Williams we're knackered and Bale was on his feet. But while Croatia had top drawer subs to change the game we had Simon Church and Championship standard players.

We just didn't have the strength in depth to make any meaningful change second half.

The team played well though and play in a modern style where they try to keep possession so I've nocomplaints about Coleman for now.

Agreed.

I'd say our strongest team on paper is something like this:

------------------Myhill---------------------
--Mathews--Lynch--Williams--Davies---
--------Ramsey-Allen-Ledley-------------
-----------Williams--Bale-----------------
-----------------Bellamy-------------------

The point being, is that at full strength it would give us a bench like this: Hennessey, Collins, Gunter, Taylor, Vaughan, Collison, King, Robson-Kanu, C. Davies

With that sort of a bench, he'd be able to make substitutions to deal with teams like Croatia, when he's got the amount of injuries that he has he can't.

I'm really looking forward to the remaining qualifiers under Coleman, and starting a fresh for 2016 without having lost the first 4 games before we start playing because we're playing some really exciting stuff and are a very competitive side.

We were missing Ramsey and Matthews tonight, big losses.

Joe Allen will have hell of a job getting back into this side.

Ramsey, Matthews, Taylor, Collison and Allen missing tonight, that's half a team. A nation as small as Wales will always struggle when players like that are not available and the fact we gave as good as we got for 75 mins against a team 9th in the world is pretty impressive.

I fully back your opinion.

Coleman has made two errors these two games. One was not to call up Craig Davies who is great lump and did well when called upon at home to Scotland last year and not bringing on Easter for Robson Kanu. Jazz Richards is not good enough at the moment. People are upset because they don't see the Croats as a big name, they aren't but they are f*cking good and we ran them close tonight.

Well done Wales, spirited performance.

I do understand why you think Easter would have been better to come on than Richards but you can see Coleman's thinking behind the decision. Richards is a full back and putting a full back in the left midfield position offered us a defensive force on that side. It didn't work but I've seen managers make the same decision before and it work, even using players who you wouldn't think could do the job. We also shouldn't forget that it was down the left hand side that they focused their efforts because Gunter was proving the weak link not the other side where Richards was because he was offering an extra defensive wall for the Croats to try and get behind. I think Easter could well have left us more exposed. All in theory though. Who knows what other decisions would have resulted in.

Easter could have ran the channels up front on his own. I am not disputing that Jazz Richards is a better player I am merely stating that I believe we should have brought on a striker. HRL was playing well but he was blowing out of his arse. Agree with your inclusion of Lynch instead of Collins. With Collins you are always waiting for a mistake.

All in all Coleman is doing a great job.

You're such a deluded mong. You clearly know nothing about football.

We were missing Ramsey and Matthews tonight, big losses.

Joe Allen will have hell of a job getting back into this side.

Ramsey, Matthews, Taylor, Collison and Allen missing tonight, that's half a team. A nation as small as Wales will always struggle when players like that are not available and the fact we gave as good as we got for 75 mins against a team 9th in the world is pretty impressive.

I fully back your opinion.

Coleman has made two errors these two games. One was not to call up Craig Davies who is great lump and did well when called upon at home to Scotland last year and not bringing on Easter for Robson Kanu. Jazz Richards is not good enough at the moment. People are upset because they don't see the Croats as a big name, they aren't but they are f*cking good and we ran them close tonight.

Well done Wales, spirited performance.

I agree about Davies, I also think Jake Cassidy should have been called up as he looks a very good young player although I can see how playing for the U21's would benefit him more.

Jazz Richards is playing regularly for Palace and impressing, Easter couldn't get in the Palace team and has done well to get a call up really based on his debut against Charlton.

The positives from Coleman would have far outweighed the negatives such giving Jon Williams his chance up in Scotland and sticking with him last night.

This is right. Modern football is a squad game. Young players like Williams we're knackered and Bale was on his feet. But while Croatia had top drawer subs to change the game we had Simon Church and Championship standard players.

We just didn't have the strength in depth to make any meaningful change second half.

The team played well though and play in a modern style where they try to keep possession so I've nocomplaints about Coleman for now.

Agreed.

I'd say our strongest team on paper is something like this:

------------------Myhill---------------------
--Mathews--Lynch--Williams--Davies---
--------Ramsey-Allen-Ledley-------------
-----------Williams--Bale-----------------
-----------------Bellamy-------------------

The point being, is that at full strength it would give us a bench like this: Hennessey, Collins, Gunter, Taylor, Vaughan, Collison, King, Robson-Kanu, C. Davies

With that sort of a bench, he'd be able to make substitutions to deal with teams like Croatia, when he's got the amount of injuries that he has he can't.

I'm really looking forward to the remaining qualifiers under Coleman, and starting a fresh for 2016 without having lost the first 4 games before we start playing because we're playing some really exciting stuff and are a very competitive side.

I'd have Collins over Lynch and Hennessey over Myhill (I would've thought that one was pretty obvious). It'll be interesting when Neil Taylor returns because Ben Davies has not put a foot wrong for either Wales or the jacks all season.

Jacobson should be in the squad over Taylor.

I'd have Collins over Lynch and Hennessey over Myhill (I would've thought that one was pretty obvious). It'll be interesting when Neil Taylor returns because Ben Davies has not put a foot wrong for either Wales or the jacks all season.

Well it's a matter of opinion, but Myhill has been fantastic for Wales recently and whilst Hennessey is capable of making good saves he's made a lot of howlers in his time. Myhill has much safer hands and I'd prefer him in goal.

Jacobson should be in the squad over Taylor.

In your very own words:

You're such a deluded mong. You clearly know nothing about football.

If you think Taylor shouldn't be getting in the Welsh team.

We was doing alright at 1-0, then Coleman puts Jazz Richards on, goes defensive and allows Croatia to have more of the ball. We dropped deeper instead of continuing our pressing game. Modric had more time on the ball to pull the strings and eventually, Croatia carved us open. How deep were we for their first goal? In the first half we would have pressed Lovren to stop him shooting.

Croatia were obviously going to have a go at us in the second half, but with our weak defence (Collins missed a number of headers from crosses which could have cost us. Gunter I'm sorry is not up to international level), I thought it was suicidal for us to sit back and go more defensive. It's a shame because we deserved to be 1-0 up at half time. We kept the ball well and didn't allow Croatia to settle. I think there is only one man to blame for our defeat tonight.

Firstly it's we 'were', not 'was'. Jazz Richards was probably the best we had on the bench, did you see it? Not too much to choose from. As for their first goal, Lovren was about 25-30 yards out, wasn't he? I think you'd have to credit to the quality of strike. I feel we pressed him enough. Myhill should've made a better fist of it, though.

Considering Collins hasn't played international football too often over the past 18 months, I think he did excellently tonight. Of course, you must pick holes in a good performance, being such an FM geek. Gunter was OK, but it must be remembered that Adam Matthews (who would normally start) is currently injured.

You may as well not have said anything about tonight's game at all, since you have nothing of any note to say

Yes, I saw the bench and Vokes or Church could have come on up front with Bellamy dropping back to the wide left where Robson-Kanu was playing. But Coleman chose to put on an inexperienced Jazz Richards out of position on the left side of midfield and he looked a fish out of water. That's not Richards' fault of course as he is still learning in his natural position at international level, nevermind in a new position which he isn't too familiar with. Coleman's negativity allowed Croatia to dominate possession and control the second half. It was a good strike by Lovren, but if he was pressed like I'm sure he would have been in the first half, he wouldn't have had the time to steady himself and line up his shot. Pressing him quicker would have either put him off, making him shoot off balance, or he may not have even had chance to get his shot off at all. I agree Myhill should still have saved it mind.

I really don't understand your point about Collins as he's been playing Premiership football this season against some of the best strikers in the world, so international football is hardly a step up for him.

By the way, it's "a" FM geek as the letter F isn't a vowel, and your last sentence doesn't end with a full stop.

We was doing alright at 1-0, then Coleman puts Jazz Richards on, goes defensive and allows Croatia to have more of the ball. We dropped deeper instead of continuing our pressing game. Modric had more time on the ball to pull the strings and eventually, Croatia carved us open. How deep were we for their first goal? In the first half we would have pressed Lovren to stop him shooting.

Croatia were obviously going to have a go at us in the second half, but with our weak defence (Collins missed a number of headers from crosses which could have cost us. Gunter I'm sorry is not up to international level), I thought it was suicidal for us to sit back and go more defensive. It's a shame because we deserved to be 1-0 up at half time. We kept the ball well and didn't allow Croatia to settle. I think there is only one man to blame for our defeat tonight.

Firstly it's we 'were', not 'was'. Jazz Richards was probably the best we had on the bench, did you see it? Not too much to choose from. As for their first goal, Lovren was about 25-30 yards out, wasn't he? I think you'd have to credit to the quality of strike. I feel we pressed him enough. Myhill should've made a better fist of it, though.

Considering Collins hasn't played international football too often over the past 18 months, I think he did excellently tonight. Of course, you must pick holes in a good performance, being such an FM geek. Gunter was OK, but it must be remembered that Adam Matthews (who would normally start) is currently injured.

You may as well not have said anything about tonight's game at all, since you have nothing of any note to say

Yes, I saw the bench and Vokes or Church could have come on up front with Bellamy dropping back to the wide left where Robson-Kanu was playing. But Coleman chose to put on an inexperienced Jazz Richards out of position on the left side of midfield and he looked a fish out of water. That's not Richards' fault of course as he is still learning in his natural position at international level, nevermind in a new position which he isn't too familiar with. Coleman's negativity allowed Croatia to dominate possession and control the second half. It was a good strike by Lovren, but if he was pressed like I'm sure he would have been in the first half, he wouldn't have had the time to steady himself and line up his shot. Pressing him quicker would have either put him off, making him shoot off balance, or he may not have even had chance to get his shot off at all. I agree Myhill should still have saved it mind.

I really don't understand your point about Collins as he's been playing Premiership football this season against some of the best strikers in the world, so international football is hardly a step up for him.

By the way, it's "a" FM geek as the letter F isn't a vowel, and your last sentence doesn't end with a full stop.

Bellamy was tiring himself and wouldn't have tracked back as much as Jazz Richards, and both Vokes and Church aren't up to the standard of Croatia really. Croatia were dominate in possesion before the substitution, and for most of the first half as well, we set up well tactically to manage to be able to get a goal and to close them out for as long as we did with how a good a side they were.

Lovren was pressed by Jonny Williams, he didn't have time to move the ball in to a better position and just hit it as they couldn't get through. Watch the goal again, we couldn't have pressed him any more quickly than we did, Williams was only not to get a block in.



His point with Collins is more of who he's playing with rather than anything, he hasn't played with the likes of Ashley Williams or Chris Gunter in a very long time and he's never played with Ben Davies.

We was doing alright at 1-0, then Coleman puts Jazz Richards on, goes defensive and allows Croatia to have more of the ball. We dropped deeper instead of continuing our pressing game. Modric had more time on the ball to pull the strings and eventually, Croatia carved us open. How deep were we for their first goal? In the first half we would have pressed Lovren to stop him shooting.

Croatia were obviously going to have a go at us in the second half, but with our weak defence (Collins missed a number of headers from crosses which could have cost us. Gunter I'm sorry is not up to international level), I thought it was suicidal for us to sit back and go more defensive. It's a shame because we deserved to be 1-0 up at half time. We kept the ball well and didn't allow Croatia to settle. I think there is only one man to blame for our defeat tonight.

Firstly it's we 'were', not 'was'. Jazz Richards was probably the best we had on the bench, did you see it? Not too much to choose from. As for their first goal, Lovren was about 25-30 yards out, wasn't he? I think you'd have to credit to the quality of strike. I feel we pressed him enough. Myhill should've made a better fist of it, though.

Considering Collins hasn't played international football too often over the past 18 months, I think he did excellently tonight. Of course, you must pick holes in a good performance, being such an FM geek. Gunter was OK, but it must be remembered that Adam Matthews (who would normally start) is currently injured.

You may as well not have said anything about tonight's game at all, since you have nothing of any note to say

Yes, I saw the bench and Vokes or Church could have come on up front with Bellamy dropping back to the wide left where Robson-Kanu was playing. But Coleman chose to put on an inexperienced Jazz Richards out of position on the left side of midfield and he looked a fish out of water. That's not Richards' fault of course as he is still learning in his natural position at international level, nevermind in a new position which he isn't too familiar with. Coleman's negativity allowed Croatia to dominate possession and control the second half. It was a good strike by Lovren, but if he was pressed like I'm sure he would have been in the first half, he wouldn't have had the time to steady himself and line up his shot. Pressing him quicker would have either put him off, making him shoot off balance, or he may not have even had chance to get his shot off at all. I agree Myhill should still have saved it mind.

I really don't understand your point about Collins as he's been playing Premiership football this season against some of the best strikers in the world, so international football is hardly a step up for him.

By the way, it's "a" FM geek as the letter F isn't a vowel, and your last sentence doesn't end with a full stop.

Bellamy was tiring himself and wouldn't have tracked back as much as Jazz Richards, and both Vokes and Church aren't up to the standard of Croatia really. Croatia were dominate in possesion before the substitution, and for most of the first half as well, we set up well tactically to manage to be able to get a goal and to close them out for as long as we did with how a good a side they were.

Lovren was pressed by Jonny Williams, he didn't have time to move the ball in to a better position and just hit it as they couldn't get through. Watch the goal again, we couldn't have pressed him any more quickly than we did, Williams was only not to get a block in.



His point with Collins is more of who he's playing with rather than anything, he hasn't played with the likes of Ashley Williams or Chris Gunter in a very long time and he's never played with Ben Davies.

I personally thought we controlled the majority of the first half and our 1-0 lead at half time was very well deserved. My point is I believe Coleman should have kept things as they were and gone like for like with his substitutions when our players tired, not go defensive and invite Croatia onto us further. Coleman could have even put Bale out to the left if Bellamy was tiring. But I saw Bellamy sprinting after their defenders and stopping their midfielders from bringing the ball out, so it didn't seem like he was tiring to me.

For the goal, Lovren had enough time to control the ball, steady himself and shoot. Williams did his best to close him down but he was marking a different player, I don't think Croatia would have been able to get a shot off like that in the first half with our high pressing game. I think we were too deep in the second half and this allowed Croatia to take control and carve us open. Just my opinion of course, but I honestly think if we kept being brave in possession, attacked a bit more and pressed a bit higher, we wouldn't have lost.

We was doing alright at 1-0, then Coleman puts Jazz Richards on, goes defensive and allows Croatia to have more of the ball. We dropped deeper instead of continuing our pressing game. Modric had more time on the ball to pull the strings and eventually, Croatia carved us open. How deep were we for their first goal? In the first half we would have pressed Lovren to stop him shooting.

Croatia were obviously going to have a go at us in the second half, but with our weak defence (Collins missed a number of headers from crosses which could have cost us. Gunter I'm sorry is not up to international level), I thought it was suicidal for us to sit back and go more defensive. It's a shame because we deserved to be 1-0 up at half time. We kept the ball well and didn't allow Croatia to settle. I think there is only one man to blame for our defeat tonight.

Firstly it's we 'were', not 'was'. Jazz Richards was probably the best we had on the bench, did you see it? Not too much to choose from. As for their first goal, Lovren was about 25-30 yards out, wasn't he? I think you'd have to credit to the quality of strike. I feel we pressed him enough. Myhill should've made a better fist of it, though.

Considering Collins hasn't played international football too often over the past 18 months, I think he did excellently tonight. Of course, you must pick holes in a good performance, being such an FM geek. Gunter was OK, but it must be remembered that Adam Matthews (who would normally start) is currently injured.

You may as well not have said anything about tonight's game at all, since you have nothing of any note to say

Yes, I saw the bench and Vokes or Church could have come on up front with Bellamy dropping back to the wide left where Robson-Kanu was playing. But Coleman chose to put on an inexperienced Jazz Richards out of position on the left side of midfield and he looked a fish out of water. That's not Richards' fault of course as he is still learning in his natural position at international level, nevermind in a new position which he isn't too familiar with. Coleman's negativity allowed Croatia to dominate possession and control the second half. It was a good strike by Lovren, but if he was pressed like I'm sure he would have been in the first half, he wouldn't have had the time to steady himself and line up his shot. Pressing him quicker would have either put him off, making him shoot off balance, or he may not have even had chance to get his shot off at all. I agree Myhill should still have saved it mind.

I really don't understand your point about Collins as he's been playing Premiership football this season against some of the best strikers in the world, so international football is hardly a step up for him.

By the way, it's "a" FM geek as the letter F isn't a vowel, and your last sentence doesn't end with a full stop.

You should have phoned the FAW then, and told them to stick Vokes or Church on instead. The pressing was fine - like I said - but Myhill should've saved it, end of. The point I was making about Collins was that he's been lacking in international appearances of late, so to come in and give a performance like that alongside players he hasn't played with for a long while was impressive.

By the way, when you say the letter F, it sounds like 'eff' and you place the indefinite article 'an' before a vowel, which is what 'e' is. So there. And I chose to leave out the full stop at the end.