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OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:41 pm

After watching the Scotland game and the first half of the Croatia game does Chris Coleman deserve a chance ? Personally i have opposed his appointment from the beginning but i am fast changing my mind and i do feel we should give him a break and back him.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:48 pm

He's the manager of Wales, should always back him anyway.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:48 pm

As much as i hate to say it, yes they got to give him more time, it looks like he might do good by wales

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:49 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:After watching the Scotland game and the first half of the Croatia game does Chris Coleman deserve a chance ? Personally i have opposed his appointment from the beginning but i am fast changing my mind and i do feel we should give him a break and back him.




if wales pull off a victory tonight, then im sure a few will sit up and take notice... im like you, furious at the start and after the 6-1 mauling etc... was really upset, im gonna stick 1 leg over the fence...

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:50 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:After watching the Scotland game and the first half of the Croatia game does Chris Coleman deserve a chance ? Personally i have opposed his appointment from the beginning but i am fast changing my mind and i do feel we should give him a break and back him.





Nukes, unfortunately it doesn't matter who is in charge. It's a poison chalice with so few 'class' players to choose from, so I would leave him in there to try and build something :(

Have to be honest, though. International football is very low down on my list of 'must sees' :( :ayatollah:

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:32 pm

Should never have been given the chance.

Given the scenario of which the job came about its my opinion that Dutch Ray (Then Current No2) deserved the chance.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:36 pm

Out

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:38 pm

rafa out! ;)

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:39 pm

He has made a tactical boo boo though. Taking off a striker and putting on a defender was suicide. Especially against Croatia. Can i change my vote ? :lol:

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:40 pm

aj1927 wrote:Should never have been given the chance.

Given the scenario of which the job came about its my opinion that Dutch Ray (Then Current No2) deserved the chance.


:?

Why does what happened to speed have anything to do with how you pick his replacement?

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:40 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:He has made a tactical boo boo though. Taking off a striker and putting on a defender was suicide. Especially against Croatia. Can i change my vote ? :lol:




:lol:

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:42 pm

aj1927 wrote:Should never have been given the chance.

Given the scenario of which the job came about its my opinion that Dutch Ray (Then Current No2) deserved the chance.


Love it when people say that! :lol:

Why the hell should a fitness coach be given an international management role FFS :lol:

The guy is the most unprofessional man in the game and barely has the CV or qualifications to manage Welshpool let alone Wales. Coleman was by far the best candidate and proving it, he's doing very well.

I think the last time we beat a top 10 side in a meaningful match was Italy under Hughes and we came oh so close tonight in beating a side sat 9th in the world that hasn't lost since last summer which was a last minute defeat to Spain.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:47 pm

Paxman wrote:
aj1927 wrote:Should never have been given the chance.

Given the scenario of which the job came about its my opinion that Dutch Ray (Then Current No2) deserved the chance.


Love it when people say that! :lol:

Why the hell should a fitness coach be given an international management role FFS :lol:

The guy is the most unprofessional man in the game and barely has the CV or qualifications to manage Welshpool let alone Wales. Coleman was by far the best candidate and proving it, he's doing very well.

I think the last time we beat a top 10 side in a meaningful match was Italy under Hughes and we came oh so close tonight in beating a side sat 9th in the world that hasn't lost since last summer which was a last minute defeat to Spain.


I've for no problem with Coleman and think he was the best option we had. But I don't think we came close to winning tonight. Great 1st half but they dominated the 2nd and well deserved their goals. Decent performance though and all we can do is keep building which I feel we are.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:48 pm

Last week I would of said no. Now I think maybe!!!

I'm going to ask the man from delmonte first before I vote :lol:

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:48 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
Paxman wrote:
aj1927 wrote:Should never have been given the chance.

Given the scenario of which the job came about its my opinion that Dutch Ray (Then Current No2) deserved the chance.


Love it when people say that! :lol:

Why the hell should a fitness coach be given an international management role FFS :lol:

The guy is the most unprofessional man in the game and barely has the CV or qualifications to manage Welshpool let alone Wales. Coleman was by far the best candidate and proving it, he's doing very well.

I think the last time we beat a top 10 side in a meaningful match was Italy under Hughes and we came oh so close tonight in beating a side sat 9th in the world that hasn't lost since last summer which was a last minute defeat to Spain.


I've for no problem with Coleman and think he was the best option we had. But I don't think we can close to winning tonight. Great 1st half but they dominated the 2nd and well deserved their goals. Decent performance though and all we can do is keep building which I feel we are.


What?

We were winning with 13 minutes left to go, that's pretty close to winning.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:49 pm

I had bale to score first and Wales to win 1-0 :evil:

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:51 pm

What qualifications or previous achievements suggest that Cookie is good enough?

The FAW are f*cking idiots who appointed Tosh for a second time after he quit after one game, then they persevere with him despite bad result after bad result. Now it's Cookies chance to prove the men in charge are f*cking hopeless.

He is a cheap manager for them to pay, with no concern about results. The FAW have sat back and watched Wales as a national side drop and drop and drop down the ranks, and try have done f**k all to sort it out.

Nothing personal against Cookie, always liked him.
But as a manager ? No thank you. Proves it again tonight.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:53 pm

aj1927 wrote:What qualifications or previous achievements suggest that Cookie is good enough?

The FAW are f*cking idiots who appointed Tosh for a second time after he quit after one game, then they persevere with him despite bad result after bad result. Now it's Cookies chance to prove the men in charge are f*cking hopeless.

He is a cheap manager for them to pay, with no concern about results. The FAW have sat back and watched Wales as a national side drop and drop and drop down the ranks, and try have done f**k all to sort it out.

Nothing personal against Cookie, always liked him.
But as a manager ? No thank you. Proves it again tonight.


A damn site more impressive CV than Speed and Dutch ray put together.

He has succeeded everywhere he's been apart from Coventry.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:54 pm

Paxman wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Paxman wrote:
aj1927 wrote:Should never have been given the chance.

Given the scenario of which the job came about its my opinion that Dutch Ray (Then Current No2) deserved the chance.


Love it when people say that! :lol:

Why the hell should a fitness coach be given an international management role FFS :lol:

The guy is the most unprofessional man in the game and barely has the CV or qualifications to manage Welshpool let alone Wales. Coleman was by far the best candidate and proving it, he's doing very well.

I think the last time we beat a top 10 side in a meaningful match was Italy under Hughes and we came oh so close tonight in beating a side sat 9th in the world that hasn't lost since last summer which was a last minute defeat to Spain.


I've for no problem with Coleman and think he was the best option we had. But I don't think we can close to winning tonight. Great 1st half but they dominated the 2nd and well deserved their goals. Decent performance though and all we can do is keep building which I feel we are.


What?

We were winning with 13 minutes left to go, that's pretty close to winning.


Did you watch the game? Their first goal was always coming and once they got it, it was all about whether we could hold out for a draw. We couldn't. Judge it on time if you want, but Wales weren't close to winning the game on performance.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:54 pm

Canton stand baz wrote:I had bale to score first and Wales to win 1-0 :evil:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You would have him to score first if we were to win 1-0

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:57 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
Paxman wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Paxman wrote:
aj1927 wrote:Should never have been given the chance.

Given the scenario of which the job came about its my opinion that Dutch Ray (Then Current No2) deserved the chance.


Love it when people say that! :lol:

Why the hell should a fitness coach be given an international management role FFS :lol:

The guy is the most unprofessional man in the game and barely has the CV or qualifications to manage Welshpool let alone Wales. Coleman was by far the best candidate and proving it, he's doing very well.

I think the last time we beat a top 10 side in a meaningful match was Italy under Hughes and we came oh so close tonight in beating a side sat 9th in the world that hasn't lost since last summer which was a last minute defeat to Spain.


I've for no problem with Coleman and think he was the best option we had. But I don't think we can close to winning tonight. Great 1st half but they dominated the 2nd and well deserved their goals. Decent performance though and all we can do is keep building which I feel we are.


What?

We were winning with 13 minutes left to go, that's pretty close to winning.


Did you watch the game? Their first goal was always coming and once they got it, it was all about whether we could hold out for a draw. We couldn't. Judge it on time if you want, but Wales weren't close to winning the game on performance.


Of course I watched it. We we winning with 13 minutes on the clock until Myhill made a hash of a hopeful, but well struck, long ranger. If he saved that I'm sure we would have held on.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:58 pm

Paxman wrote:
aj1927 wrote:What qualifications or previous achievements suggest that Cookie is good enough?

The FAW are f*cking idiots who appointed Tosh for a second time after he quit after one game, then they persevere with him despite bad result after bad result. Now it's Cookies chance to prove the men in charge are f*cking hopeless.

He is a cheap manager for them to pay, with no concern about results. The FAW have sat back and watched Wales as a national side drop and drop and drop down the ranks, and try have done f**k all to sort it out.

Nothing personal against Cookie, always liked him.
But as a manager ? No thank you. Proves it again tonight.


A damn site more impressive CV than Speed and Dutch ray put together.

He has succeeded everywhere he's been apart from Coventry.


Fulham - sacked
Real sociadad - quit
Coventry - sacked
Larissa - quit
Wales - god help us if you deem the above successful.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:00 pm

aj1927 wrote:
Paxman wrote:
aj1927 wrote:What qualifications or previous achievements suggest that Cookie is good enough?

The FAW are f*cking idiots who appointed Tosh for a second time after he quit after one game, then they persevere with him despite bad result after bad result. Now it's Cookies chance to prove the men in charge are f*cking hopeless.

He is a cheap manager for them to pay, with no concern about results. The FAW have sat back and watched Wales as a national side drop and drop and drop down the ranks, and try have done f**k all to sort it out.

Nothing personal against Cookie, always liked him.
But as a manager ? No thank you. Proves it again tonight.


A damn site more impressive CV than Speed and Dutch ray put together.

He has succeeded everywhere he's been apart from Coventry.


Fulham - sacked
Real sociadad - quit
Coventry - sacked
Larissa - quit
Wales - god help us if you deem the above successful.


Di matteo got sacked after winning the champions league. Does that mean as a result he wasn't successful?

Do you want me to give a brief synopsis of each spell in charge?

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:01 pm

Paxman wrote:
aj1927 wrote:What qualifications or previous achievements suggest that Cookie is good enough?

The FAW are f*cking idiots who appointed Tosh for a second time after he quit after one game, then they persevere with him despite bad result after bad result. Now it's Cookies chance to prove the men in charge are f*cking hopeless.

He is a cheap manager for them to pay, with no concern about results. The FAW have sat back and watched Wales as a national side drop and drop and drop down the ranks, and try have done f**k all to sort it out.

Nothing personal against Cookie, always liked him.
But as a manager ? No thank you. Proves it again tonight.


A damn site more impressive CV than Speed and Dutch ray put together.

He has succeeded everywhere he's been apart from Coventry.




yet strangely his only managerial award was a manager of the month award for coventry!!

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:01 pm

Looked much better again tonight but only fault with Coleman was bringing on Jazz Richards for Robson-kanu, that cost us.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:02 pm

Paxman wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Paxman wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:
Paxman wrote:
aj1927 wrote:Should never have been given the chance.

Given the scenario of which the job came about its my opinion that Dutch Ray (Then Current No2) deserved the chance.


Love it when people say that! :lol:

Why the hell should a fitness coach be given an international management role FFS :lol:

The guy is the most unprofessional man in the game and barely has the CV or qualifications to manage Welshpool let alone Wales. Coleman was by far the best candidate and proving it, he's doing very well.

I think the last time we beat a top 10 side in a meaningful match was Italy under Hughes and we came oh so close tonight in beating a side sat 9th in the world that hasn't lost since last summer which was a last minute defeat to Spain.


I've for no problem with Coleman and think he was the best option we had. But I don't think we can close to winning tonight. Great 1st half but they dominated the 2nd and well deserved their goals. Decent performance though and all we can do is keep building which I feel we are.


What?

We were winning with 13 minutes left to go, that's pretty close to winning.


Did you watch the game? Their first goal was always coming and once they got it, it was all about whether we could hold out for a draw. We couldn't. Judge it on time if you want, but Wales weren't close to winning the game on performance.


Of course I watched it. We we winning with 13 minutes on the clock until Myhill made a hash of a hopeful, but well struck, long ranger. If he saved that I'm sure we would have held on.


We will never know, but personally I think they were always going to score, keeper error or not. Still impressed with Wales though as Croatia are no mugs and we have them real problems for chunks of the game.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:02 pm

13 mins from beating a top team in the world is good enough for you is it?

Said on the weekend don't read to much into the back to back wins against Jox as they're poor.


We were only kept in the game by some outstanding goalkeeping at times.

Best teams take there chances.

Wales 1 Croatia 2 was a fair result in my opinion.

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:03 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:Looked much better again tonight but only fault with Coleman was bringing on Jazz Richards for Robson-kanu, that cost us.

Agreed :cry: :evil:
Anyway the red put away and bring the blue back out :D

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:04 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
Canton stand baz wrote:I had bale to score first and Wales to win 1-0 :evil:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You would have him to score first if we were to win 1-0


Alright smarty pants :roll:

Re: OK Coleman POLL

Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:05 pm

aj1927 wrote:13 mins from beating a top team in the world is good enough for you is it?

Said on the weekend don't read to much into the back to back wins against Jox as they're poor.


We were only kept in the game by some outstanding goalkeeping at times.

Best teams take there chances.

Wales 1 Croatia 2 was a fair result in my opinion.


We are Wales you plank. Of course giving a team in the top 10 a run for their money is good enough. Our pool of players is minute once we get an injury we are in trouble. Today Joe Allen and Aaron Ramsey were missing from the heart of our team and we lead Croatia until the 77th minute. If you are expecting us to beat teams like that then you are a fruit loop with no grasp on reality.... On to Coleman:-


Chris Coleman,,..


Fulham

Coleman joined Fulham's coaching staff in October 2002 under Tigana. He later succeeded the Frenchman as caretaker manager in April 2003, and steered Fulham away from relegation danger. He was named as Fulham's permanent manager in May 2003, beating the more experienced Klaus Toppmöller and George Burley to the post, and also became the youngest manager in the Premier League.[4]
His first full season in charge saw Fulham finish a surprise ninth place, as many pundits tipped them to struggle and for Coleman to be sacked.[5] Many of Fulham's key players, such as Edwin van der Sar, Louis Saha, Steed Malbranque and Luis Boa Morte, were sold in the following years and Fulham did not repeat their earlier successes under Coleman though he kept them clear of relegation. He was sacked in April 2007, after Fulham went on a seven game winless run.[6]


Real Sociedad

Coleman moved abroad to manage recently relegated Segunda División side Real Sociedad in June 2007, after being recommended to the club by fellow Welshman and former Real Sociedad manager John Toshack.[7] He was linked with Bolton Wanderers in October 2007[8] though nothing came of it. With the club in 5th place and having only lost once in its previous eleven games, Coleman resigned as manager on 16 January 2008, citing a divergence in vision for the club with newly elected President Iñaki Badiola.[9]

[edit]Coventry City

Coleman was appointed manager of Championship side Coventry City on 19 February 2008, signing a three-and-a-half-year contract. He replaced Iain Dowie, who had been sacked by new owner Ray Ranson.[10]
On 26 August 2008, the BBC reported that Coleman was no longer interested in the international success of Wales.[11] He later denied the allegation, however, telling BBC Radio Wales' Sportstime programme, "I've got to get him [Eastwood] fit for Coventry first and foremost, that's my job. When he is fit, I'd drive him down the motorway myself if I had to for him to play for Wales. I've played for Wales myself and I preferred playing for my country than any club I've played for. I can promise you that I love Wales, I'm very patriotic and that will never change."[12] On 4 May 2010, Coleman was sacked following Coventry's 19th place finish during the 2009–10 season,[13] their lowest league finish in more than 45 years. I accept this move was a failure


[edit]Larissa

In May 2011, Coleman was appointed as manager of Greek side Larissa.[14] In January 2012, Coleman announced that because of financial troubles at the club he would be quitting from his position as manager.[15]
During His time In Greece, Coleman only lost 1 game out of 12, only conceding 3 goals and scoring 16. Due to financial and corruption difficulties the season didnt start until late 2011. During pre-season they played 20 games. winning 14, drawing 4 and losing 2. He was adored by the fans, and there were many planned riots and protests when he left citing financial difficulties as the reasons, (having not been paid for 3 months along with many of the players). In the immediate 12 games after Coleman left, Larissa lost 9 out of 12 games, drawing 2 and winning only 1.


Not bad eh?[/quote]