Family club of the year again! 2 meanings..

1. Congrats to everyone in their constant efforts to make the club a family friendly place to visit - the efforts are indeed paying off.

2. Slightly more controversially - are we now being seen as a soft touch, and not the atmospheric hell hole that opposing teams used to hate coming to?

I personally don't like the atmosphere in the new stadium - never have. I think a midweek match Leicester at home when were down to 9 men for 35 minutes (Quinn's best ever game!) was the best atmosphere I've felt & observed, but theses days are very few & far between.

It's a fine line between 1 & 2.

I hate the fact we are now more of a Norwich or Watford than a Millwall or Leeds but perhaps that says more about me than it does about the club!

The atmosphere has been poor this season but lets not kid ourselves, it was very often poor at Ninian Park too.

I think the problem we have with CCS is mainly to do with the fact that the few hundred regular singers in the Grange and Canton that could at least generate a bit of noise at NP are now spread out around a much bigger stadium.

Also you have the type of fan that goes to football nowadays. The sort of fan whose priorities are in order if importance -

1. Beating the traffic
2. Half time food/drink.
3. Football.

The atmosphere has been poor this season but lets not kid ourselves, it was very often poor at Ninian Park too.

I think the problem we have with CCS is mainly to do with the fact that the few hundred regular singers in the Grange and Canton that could at least generate a bit of noise at NP are now spread out around a much bigger stadium.

Also you have the type of fan that goes to football nowadays. The sort of fan whose priorities are in order if importance -

1. Beating the traffic
2. Half time food/drink.
3. Football.

It sickens me to the core. But you are right. This is the first season I haven't been to as many games as I would've liked - I have my kid most Saturday afternoons (don't get me wrong, spending time with her is the best thing in the world) but it's been the midweek games & the odd Saturday game I've seen this season, but the atmosphere is getting worse.

Plus, what has happened to the knowledgeable City crowd? The people around me are lucky they haven't had one planted on them by yours truly with the shit they spout.

Some of them don't even know some of the players - I shit you not.

Much rather be an intimidating hell hole to come to than a pussy little family club. We as fans seriously need to do something about the atmosphere

A superb result and congratulations to all involved at Cardiff City FC

I thought Swansea would walk away with an award like that (what with them all being related, if you know what I mean ) but then I saw the criteria and you just have to say that this is a huge 'feather-in-the-cap' for Cardiff City FC

Well done again

Good for the club and good for us as fans. Hopefully lead to us being better treated in the long run

Much rather be an intimidating hell hole to come to than a pussy little family club. We as fans seriously need to do something about the atmosphere

I agree , its not the stadium as when you look at the Wales v Scotland game the atmosphere was really good , I think the atmosphere will be better in the prem if we get there as we will be the underdogs

Much rather be an intimidating hell hole to come to than a pussy little family club. We as fans seriously need to do something about the atmosphere

You can have an excellent atmosphere without being an intimidating hell hole

The trouble is, you can't just create an atmosphere. The fans have to want to sing. I'm a perfect case in point here, I sit in Canton 108, I would love to stand and sing but many around me don't seem that bothered most of the time, only getting animated when the team is on the ascendency. I'm sure there are many like me, that want to sing but feel isolated and also being sat down doesn't help, you feel a right tit singing while your sat down, so safe standing would be a big help.

Cardiff 2-1 Leeds

Duberry 'It was like hell playing in there'.

That game itself proved how an atmosphere can have an impact on the pitch.

Cardiff 2-1 Leeds

Duberry 'It was like hell playing in there'.

That game itself proved how an atmosphere can have an impact on the pitch.

Nail. head. surely?

The powers that be can bump their gums all day long about how much of a corner we've turned.....I'm pretty sure to the majority results on the pitch have a far bigger significance than how little arrests are made on match day?

Not condoning violence but you get my drift.

Cardiff 2-1 Leeds

Duberry 'It was like hell playing in there'.

That game itself proved how an atmosphere can have an impact on the pitch.

There is no disputing that a intimidating atmosphere can have an affect on the pitch, but the fact that game is always quoted proves in itself how rare the atmosphere was actually like that. If NP was in fact an intimidating place, it didn't do us much good as far as success on the pitch goes for thirty years did it.

The reality was most of the time, the run of the mill league games against the likes of Bournemouth, Preston and Ipswich, the atmosphere was often no better and sometimes worse than it is now.

I hate the fact we are now more of a Norwich or Watford than a Millwall or Leeds but perhaps that says more about me than it does about the club!

It does mate....and that's very sad.

I'm not proud of that personally

Hate to break it to you folks but we can still be a good family club and have an intimidating atmosphere. I am proud of these awards, off course we are now like Reading over Millwall but why is this a problem to some of you? We have worked hard to shake off that awful hooligan tag we once had.

You sound as if you are using this award as an excuse not to bother create and atmosphere when in reality we can do both.

I'm not proud of that personally

Why not exactly?

I'm not proud of that personally

Why not exactly?

To me it just shows how our matchday experience has gone downhill at home. Going to the Cardiff City Stadium is like walking into McDonalds during a 6 year old's birthday party these days.

I'm not proud of that personally

Why not exactly?

To me it just shows how our matchday experience has gone downhill at home. Going to the Cardiff City Stadium is like walking into McDonalds during a 6 year old's birthday party these days.

Here we go again; JonCCFC...the voice of experience!!

Mind you, he probably still does '6-year old McDonalds Parties'

And just to clarify: Sven is NOT anti-youth but this lad tries to make himself out to be some wise old sage yet contibutes little in reality other than regurgitated comment and insult

(For evidence read his response below)

PS: JonCCFC, what do YOU do to create a better atmosphere when in the ground? (Honest question)

I'm not proud of that personally

Why not exactly?

To me it just shows how our matchday experience has gone downhill at home. Going to the Cardiff City Stadium is like walking into McDonalds during a 6 year old's birthday party these days.

Here we go again; JonCCFC...the voice of experience!!

Mind you, he probably still does '6-year old McDonalds Parties'

And just to clarify: Sven is NOT anti-youth but this lad tries to make himself out to be some wise old sage yet contibutes little in reality other than regurgitated comment and insult

(For evidence read his response below)

PS: JonCCFC, what do YOU do to create a better atmosphere when in the ground? (Honest question)

Is there any chance you could debate opinions maturely
(seeing as you're the one having a go at people for their age ) instead of throwing INSULTS around?

I'm not proud of that personally

Why not exactly?

To me it just shows how our matchday experience has gone downhill at home. Going to the Cardiff City Stadium is like walking into McDonalds during a 6 year old's birthday party these days.

Here we go again; JonCCFC...the voice of experience!!

Mind you, he probably still does '6-year old McDonalds Parties'

And just to clarify: Sven is NOT anti-youth but this lad tries to make himself out to be some wise old sage yet contibutes little in reality other than regurgitated comment and insult

(For evidence read his response below)

PS: JonCCFC, what do YOU do to create a better atmosphere when in the ground? (Honest question)

Is there any chance you could debate opinions maturely
(seeing as you're the one having a go at people for their age ) instead of throwing INSULTS around?

Barry, it is NOT an age thing as such. He (JonCCFC) KNOWS what he has done to warrant his age being an issue

But you are right and it's time to move on

I'm not proud of that personally

Why not exactly?

To me it just shows how our matchday experience has gone downhill at home. Going to the Cardiff City Stadium is like walking into McDonalds during a 6 year old's birthday party these days.

Here we go again; JonCCFC...the voice of experience!!

Mind you, he probably still does '6-year old McDonalds Parties'

And just to clarify: Sven is NOT anti-youth but this lad tries to make himself out to be some wise old sage yet contibutes little in reality other than regurgitated comment and insult

(For evidence read his response below)

PS: JonCCFC, what do YOU do to create a better atmosphere when in the ground? (Honest question)

Sven, you clearly are "anti-youth" as you bring up my age in every post. Stop using it as an excuse to think you're smarter than me because you're clearly not.

Just because a "youth" like me can actually contribute to a debate it doesn't mean that I'm trying to make out that I'm "some wise old sage". I must admit I like winding up people like you on here but I'm not really that much of a prick. By the way, you're accusing me of something which you keep doing.

I'm only replying to you for my own entertainment and I'm guaranteed a reply because I know it winds you up, remember it's only a messageboard, don't take it so seriously.

To answer your question, I think personally that the Canton Stand and the Grange Stand need to be swapped over so that both areas of our vocal support are on both sides of the away end, making it a lot more intimidating for the away supporters and therefore creating a better atmosphere due to banter etc. This doesn't neccesarily mean there will be trouble as other grounds in the UK have proved that. For this to happen they'd need to make the Ninian Stand (two blocks next to away supporters) a singing section. I know this would be quite complicated in terms of seating arrangements, season ticket holders and the fact that the Canton is larger but it could work if the club were organized and made sure supporters were still guaranteed a seat in the ground like they have done with season ticket holders such as myself in 117 for next season as the away section is going to be expanded. This idea would be very effective but I know the club would never allow it in the near future because they want to keep our "Family Club of the Year" image. That's my opinion anyway, don't accuse me of being an "wanna-be hooligan" or something as I'm really not. This suggestion which has been mentioned many times on here would 100% boost the atmopshere.

Just read your post again and mis-read your question, my mistake.

What do I do to create a better atmosphere? Well I stand and sing. What else can I do?

Hate to break it to you folks but we can still be a good family club and have an intimidating atmosphere. I am proud of these awards, off course we are now like Reading over Millwall but why is this a problem to some of you? We have worked hard to shake off that awful hooligan tag we once had.

You sound as if you are using this award as an excuse not to bother create and atmosphere when in reality we can do both.

Here, Here.
Being family club of they year is great, We can still create a good atmosphere if fans bother to get behind the team

I'm not proud of that personally

Why not exactly?

To me it just shows how our matchday experience has gone downhill at home. Going to the Cardiff City Stadium is like walking into McDonalds during a 6 year old's birthday party these days.

Here we go again; JonCCFC...the voice of experience!!

Mind you, he probably still does '6-year old McDonalds Parties'

And just to clarify: Sven is NOT anti-youth but this lad tries to make himself out to be some wise old sage yet contibutes little in reality other than regurgitated comment and insult

(For evidence read his response below)

PS: JonCCFC, what do YOU do to create a better atmosphere when in the ground? (Honest question)

Sven, you clearly are "anti-youth" as you bring up my age in every post. Stop using it as an excuse to think you're smarter than me because you're clearly not.

Just because a "youth" like me can actually contribute to a debate it doesn't mean that I'm trying to make out that I'm "some wise old sage". I must admit I like winding up people like you on here but I'm not really that much of a prick. By the way, you're accusing me of something which you keep doing.

I'm only replying to you for my own entertainment and I'm guaranteed a reply because I know it winds you up, remember it's only a messageboard, don't take it so seriously.

To answer your question, I think personally that the Canton Stand and the Grange Stand need to be swapped over so that both areas of our vocal support are on both sides of the away end, making it a lot more intimidating for the away supporters and therefore creating a better atmosphere due to banter etc. This doesn't neccesarily mean there will be trouble as other grounds in the UK have proved that. For this to happen they'd need to make the Ninian Stand (two blocks next to away supporters) a singing section. I know this would be quite complicated in terms of seating arrangements, season ticket holders and the fact that the Canton is larger but it could work if the club were organized and made sure supporters were still guaranteed a seat in the ground like they have done with season ticket holders such as myself in 117 for next season as the away section is going to be expanded. This idea would be very effective but I know the club would never allow it in the near future because they want to keep our "Family Club of the Year" image. That's my opinion anyway, don't accuse me of being an "wanna-be hooligan" or something as I'm really not. This suggestion which has been mentioned many times on here would 100% boost the atmopshere.

JonCCFC, thank you for the latter half of your response. That is more what we want to see (I'm not being condescending)

I think you make a some points and ones I have argued over on this MB and beyond. I also sit in 117 but fortunately my seat is unaffected by the changes for next season but I do feel for those that are being moved (mainly because I think the club mis-handled the seating allocation on the changeover from Ninian Park)

With regard to the first half of your response I will simply refer you to my response to Barry Chuckle and point out that you certainly do not wind me up but some of your comments do annoy me (e.g. stating people 'must be gay' just because they disagree with you. That is certainly NOT 'smart' and suggests contrary to what you state above

Last post on this subject from me. Time to move on, so fill yer boots (if you need)

Hate to break it to you folks but we can still be a good family club and have an intimidating atmosphere. I am proud of these awards, off course we are now like Reading over Millwall but why is this a problem to some of you? We have worked hard to shake off that awful hooligan tag we once had.

You sound as if you are using this award as an excuse not to bother create and atmosphere when in reality we can do both.

Here, Here.
Being family club of they year is great, We can still create a good atmosphere if fans bother to get behind the team

I think its a real honour for our club to win this award again...well done to all involved.

A superb result and congratulations to all involved at Cardiff City FC

I thought Swansea would walk away with an award like that (what with them all being related, if you know what I mean ) but then I saw the criteria and you just have to say that this is a huge 'feather-in-the-cap' for Cardiff City FC

Well done again

We cannot enter this, as its for football league clubs only, so you won't win it next year will you.

A superb result and congratulations to all involved at Cardiff City FC

I thought Swansea would walk away with an award like that (what with them all being related, if you know what I mean ) but then I saw the criteria and you just have to say that this is a huge 'feather-in-the-cap' for Cardiff City FC

Well done again

We cannot enter this, as its for football league clubs only, so you won't win it next year will you.

No, you are right and I can promise you the atmosphere won't be so friendly when you and the family come to the CCS

Just read your post again and mis-read your question, my mistake.

What do I do to create a better atmosphere? Well I stand and sing. What else can I do?

Fair do's

You can't 'do' much else TBF but I hear people moan continuously about the atmosphere at the CCS and I watch them sitting on their hands (so to speak) during home games

The place will explode the day we clinch promotion