FC Cardiff refused the right to join English pyramid system

Interesting, Merthyr Town and Newport were allowed.

Personally for now, I would like everyone on board to fight to get our own identity back, Cardiff City Football Club, Bluebirds and Blue with a proper Bluebirds Badge

OPINIONS PLEASE

" Fc Cardiff refused the right to join English pyramid system "

FAW have rejected their approach to join the English pyramid.

They now say they have 2 options- either join the welsh pyramid or move to the West Country to enable them to join the English pyramid.

Interesting decision by FAW? Although I'm guessing if we do go bust, we would be allowed to rejoin the English pyramid?

Told them as much.

FIFA rules dont allow it, Merthyr and Newport were already in the English pyramid so its a totally different scenario to starting a new club.

Interesting, Merthyr Town and Newport were allowed.

Personally for now, I would like everyone on board to fight to get our own identity back, Cardiff City Football Club, Bluebirds and Blue with a proper Bluebirds Badge

OPINIONS PLEASE

" Fc Cardiff refused the right to join English pyramid system "

FAW have rejected their approach to join the English pyramid.

They now say they have 2 options- either join the welsh pyramid or move to the West Country to enable them to join the English pyramid.

Interesting decision by FAW? Although I'm guessing if we do go bust, we would be allowed to rejoin the English pyramid?

didn't expect anything different, fc cardiff a newly formed welsh club ,uefa have changed rules you can only play within your boarders it was done to stop a breakaway league to rival the champions league , annis i dont think we would be able to join the English league system if we went bust but in certainly is a very grey area ,we are totally different to rangers people use them as a example but they are still playing in Scotland and with merthyr i wonder if they owed any footballing debts to other clubs etc ? hopefully never come to going bust anyway

It's only fight 1 for them that they lost , there will be many counter appeals I'm sure if they are serious .
Can't remember exactly but a few years didnt Chester just move there offices into England in order to play in the English system even though the pitch was in wales ?
I'm sure there is a load of loopholes , including rangers stance that its against freedom of trading regarding to businesses in the European Union . Technically it is a business so should come under eu rules and will not be allowed to be restricted to only playing in 1 country . Maybe wrong though

Told them as much.

FIFA rules dont allow it, Merthyr and Newport were already in the English pyramid so its a totally different scenario to starting a new club.

When Newport reformed, The LOW had not been formed so their application to play in the English pyramid was accepted - The likes of Merthyr Barry, Bangor, Rhyl & Caernarfon were already playing in the English pyramid at the time

Merthyr had already made an application to play in the Western league and were accepted when the decision was made to liquidate the old club

Does it matter which league the new team play in? I thought the reason for forming the new club is to see them play in blue with a badge that has the bluebird ? Staying in the Welsh system would allow the team if successful to represent Wales in Europe.

Also regarding the Welsh FA route, do we know at what level the new club would have to enter?

This is not a wind up, just curious ?

What we need to do, is all come unite together and try and get back OUR Cardiff City. Get our identity back. If we all came together and did something, whether it be a peaceful protest or something different, then Tan would have no option but to change something. Whether it be change of badge or changing our kit colour back to Blue.

However the longer we just sit back and accept it, the worst it is going to get. We all saw that with the fact that he was contemplating changing our name.

So come on City fans, lets do something about it and get our Cardiff back!!!

BLUEBIRDSSS!!!

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What we need to do, is all come unite together and try and get back OUR Cardiff City. Get our identity back. If we all came together and did something, whether it be a peaceful protest or something different, then Tan would have no option but to change something. Whether it be change of badge or changing our kit colour back to Blue.

However the longer we just sit back and accept it, the worst it is going to get. We all saw that with the fact that he was contemplating changing our name.

So come on City fans, lets do something about it and get our Cardiff back!!!

BLUEBIRDSSS!!!

Well let's be honest, your spoiled for choice, you can pick from the KCB, the Back to Blue group, the AFC Bluebirds team, the March at the Blackburn game, the balloons at Watford and the Bluebirds unite get together in May.

Everybody should just get behind the team, because cardiff city is still here even if we don't like the colours! We should chant bluebirds and sing our hearts out to create a good atmosphere and be the 12th man. Because one day we will be back in blue!

Dont have to move over the Bridge. Just into England which isnt far .

First of all, I find it funny they were refused entry into the English leagues and secondly, we still have our identity how ever I'd like to have our traditional blue colours back.

This ent really news, it was never going to get accepted and people who have taken it seriously and had hope of getting accepted are funny.

Not a suprise at all. If they accepted fc cardiff then they would have to accept any tom, Dick and harry club in wales. You'd see the like of grangetown, pentwyn and Ely rangers applying next.

Dont have to move over the Bridge. Just into England which isnt far .

So say they find a place in Bristol, imagine having to cross the bridge for every home game, travel expenses etc, 6 quid to get back into Wales. Think of supporters too. A nail in the coffin and it's not even begun

If some people have taken it seriously they are a joke.

If some people have taken it seriously they are a joke.

thats not a joke, its sad reality...

the real joke is, that someone without any interest in CCFC itself came in, robbed us of our identity because his personal preference was a different colour and a joke of a crest. and an even bigger joke, that we let it allow to happen...

If some people have taken it seriously they are a joke.

thats not a joke, its sad reality...

the real joke is, that someone without any interest in CCFC itself came in, robbed us of our identity because his personal preference was a different colour and a joke of a crest. and an even bigger joke, that we let it allow to happen...

We just go around in circles. There was no alternative - fact!

If some people have taken it seriously they are a joke.

thats not a joke, its sad reality...

the real joke is, that someone without any interest in CCFC itself came in, robbed us of our identity because his personal preference was a different colour and a joke of a crest. and an even bigger joke, that we let it allow to happen...

We just go around in circles. There was no alternative - fact!

there was one - fact!

If some people have taken it seriously they are a joke.

thats not a joke, its sad reality...

the real joke is, that someone without any interest in CCFC itself came in, robbed us of our identity because his personal preference was a different colour and a joke of a crest. and an even bigger joke, that we let it allow to happen...

We just go around in circles. There was no alternative - fact!

there was one - fact!

Elaborate...

It's only fight 1 for them that they lost , there will be many counter appeals I'm sure if they are serious .
Can't remember exactly but a few years didnt Chester just move there offices into England in order to play in the English system even though the pitch was in wales ?
I'm sure there is a load of loopholes , including rangers stance that its against freedom of trading regarding to businesses in the European Union . Technically it is a business so should come under eu rules and will not be allowed to be restricted to only playing in 1 country . Maybe wrong though

I think this is a very valid argument. However, equally, the Football Association have a right to trade with who they want and if they choose not to trade with a newly formed club from South Wales then they don't have to. This is not a restraint of trade as the newly formed club would still have the opportunity to seek avenues of trade - but would have to consider, like any other business, whether it is economical.

I personally will continue to support a team who I have always supported and are on the verges of Premiership football.

If some people have taken it seriously they are a joke.

thats not a joke, its sad reality...

the real joke is, that someone without any interest in CCFC itself came in, robbed us of our identity because his personal preference was a different colour and a joke of a crest. and an even bigger joke, that we let it allow to happen...

We just go around in circles. There was no alternative - fact!

there was one - fact!

Elaborate...

go back on previous threads, its been said over and over before... in short, Tan is a business man, after having invested a big amount of money b4, he would never let the club go bancupt as he would want his money back. the red or dead was never there, it was just the easy way out accepting the changes as most just saw the money in front of them.

If some people have taken it seriously they are a joke.

thats not a joke, its sad reality...

the real joke is, that someone without any interest in CCFC itself came in, robbed us of our identity because his personal preference was a different colour and a joke of a crest. and an even bigger joke, that we let it allow to happen...

We just go around in circles. There was no alternative - fact!

there was one - fact!

Elaborate...

go back on previous threads, its been said over and over before... in short, Tan is a business man, after having invested a big amount of money b4, he would never let the club go bancupt as he would want his money back. the red or dead was never there, it was just the easy way out accepting the changes as most just saw the money in front of them.

Absolute rubbish. TG said at the time that without the colour change Tan wouldn't invest any more money into the club and investment would have to be found elsewhere.

Did you see a queue of other investors willing to put money into a company losing 2 mill per month? No neither did I. So actually, there were no other investers willing to put in money apart from Tan and therefore there was no alternative.

go back on previous threads, its been said over and over before... in short, Tan is a business man, after having invested a big amount of money b4, he would never let the club go bancupt as he would want his money back. the red or dead was never there, it was just the easy way out accepting the changes as most just saw the money in front of them.

Absolute rubbish. TG said at the time that without the colour change Tan wouldn't invest any more money into the club and investment would have to be found elsewhere.

Did you see a queue of other investors willing to put money into a company losing 2 mill per month? No neither did I. So actually, there were no other investers willing to put in money apart from Tan and therefore there was no alternative.

ok just think:

a man invested money into a club...
he rebrands it to his liking and his customers dont like it and go against it.

what are his options?
A- let the club go bust and his money is gone
B- sell the club to get his money back
C- stay at the club but revert the changes to make it profitable...

remember, he is a buisinessman, not a fan. he wants to make money with CCFC, he already spent a lot of money, would he loose out on that just cos his changes arent apprechiated?

answer for yourself

Absolute rubbish. TG said at the time that without the colour change Tan wouldn't invest any more money into the club and investment would have to be found elsewhere.

Did you see a queue of other investors willing to put money into a company losing 2 mill per month? No neither did I. So actually, there were no other investers willing to put in money apart from Tan and therefore there was no alternative.

How is it rubbish? It's his opinion. The club never said that ST all, they never said they would pull out either.

"The chairman added that a proposed investment and development strategy - said to be worth £100m - would now be reassessed, and may include looking for new and additional partners and investors."

It was never red or dead, a point made by our CEO shortly after the statement.

I thought that whopper barnett had an email from the football league confirming they would let them in?

Fucks sake this is like a roundabout.

Reading the same crap from both sides over and over again.

Why do all threads go this way. We really need a rebrand section where these threads can be moved to.

I thought that whopper barnett had an email from the football league confirming they would let them in?

Come on now, do you mean Barnett the computer scientist, Barnett the ESPN employee or Barnett the serie A scout?

I thought that whopper barnett had an email from the football league confirming they would let them in?

You are correct. I did receive said email and a few days later received a follow up email correcting the statements made in the first one. The person who originally responded was misinformed on the facts and sent me wrong information. I posted this on the other forum. Here is a screenshot of the follow up email. I enquired purely to know the facts of the matter as there was a lot of rumours circulating all over the forums and Twitter.

I dont think it was a case of "Red or Dead" either......

But what I do believe is that, as owner of the club, Tan Sri has the right to market the club as he deems appropriate. Now that may not be to some of our liking but there again none of us pay the bills. Nor do we invest the sort of millions that he has invested.

As far as whether I believe him or not - Well, me personally, I can only go by his previous track record. Berjaya is a major success and he is a likeable person as is Simon Lim.

The people in charge of our club are good people. They have good business brains and they are turning our club from a "local club" to a "Worldwide Brand". Thats a big change and I accept that. It is not to everyones liking but gone are the days where are supporters are solely those who turn up to the stadium.

Our supporters (Or Stakeholders) are now:

1) Those who turn up to the stadium
2) Those, local, who follow the club but for whatever reason cannot get to the stadium
3) Those who follow us on Sky TV (Subscription Services)
4) Those, who next year, will follow us on PayPerView
5) Those, overseas, who buy our products
6) Those in Asia, Europe and the Americas who will want to follow and purchase items from the Cardiff City Brand

We are no longer the local club who played in blue attracting 3000 supporters with a debt and no trophies. We are about to step into the real world of Corporate Business where the rewards are much greater.

Tan Sri has proven success and I am sure that he knows what he is doing.

An aside from this I am grateful to have Tan Sri at our club. It could be worse. 20 miles from where I live is Ewood Park.