How Many More Points Do We Need?

No team in the last 10 years has won ALL of the last 10 league matches, not even the Sunderland, Newcastle and Reading teams who walked the league.

If we maintain our record of winning, on average, 68% of the points on offer then we WILL be Champions because we will win another 22pts which will see us end on 93pts for the season. No team in the last 10 years has failed to be Champions after winning 93 pts for the season. So we don't need to win ALL our games to be champions or to get promoted.

Of the 3 clubs currently chasing us if they continue to win the same % of pts as they have so far then Hull, Watford and Palace will get another 16pts which will give Hull 84, Watford 82 and Palace 81. But will they all win the same % of pts, or will they get more or less

If they all maintain their current % then we will need as few as 12 pts to get promoted, or as little as 36% of the points available. I think we will win at least 50% of the points available or 16 giving us a total of 87 which will mean promotion.

Can one of Hull, Watford or Palace finish with more than 87 pts, possibly but can two of those 3 do it. Hull would need to win 74% of the points available to beat 87pts, Watford will need 81% of the points available and Palace will need 82%. I just can't see ALL 3 doing it.

So for me we need to target 16 pts and we will get promoted. Simples

You're a clever man.

A few months ago I was hoping for 92 points (2 points per game average), which we are still above.

Recently I calculated 89 points, but after our recent "blip" I have downgraded to 86.

All of which, I believe, will see us promoted auomatically.

14 more for me and I reckon we have at least guaranteed 2nd place ?

I think 12 will do but I would prefer to do better

I think 12 will do but I would prefer to do better

got a feeling we will need more than that, maybe 16

i feel like im back at school with all this maths

13 more to go boys

my head hurts

13 more to go boys

Exactly the way I'm looking at it Martyn.

18 points to be sure we get automatic promotion

My maths tutor for GCSE said "Aim for 100% and if you fall just short you might be disappointed but you will still have exceeded expectations".

We should go out to win every game and let the chasing pack worry about catching us. f**k this 4-4-1-1 and 4-5-1 at home to grind out draws bull shit. We need to get teams playing our way not vice versa.

doing the predictor without our results - apart from Watford away which I have taken as a loss, I've got Hull on 84 and Watford on 81, and Palace on 79 after 45 games. So we would need 85 to be sure by then - a draw at Watford would make it 83 and a win 82.

Mind you I got all their results horribly wrong this weekend so wouldn't rely on this too much

doing the predictor without our results - apart from Watford away which I have taken as a loss, I've got Hull on 84 and Watford on 81, and Palace on 79 after 45 games. So we would need 85 to be sure by then - a draw at Watford would make it 83 and a win 82.

Mind you I got all their results horribly wrong this weekend so wouldn't rely on this too much

If you've got Watford on 81 in 2nd then 82 would do it. Forget wining the league. Promotion is priority.

doing the predictor without our results - apart from Watford away which I have taken as a loss, I've got Hull on 84 and Watford on 81, and Palace on 79 after 45 games. So we would need 85 to be sure by then - a draw at Watford would make it 83 and a win 82.

Mind you I got all their results horribly wrong this weekend so wouldn't rely on this too much

If you've got Watford on 81 in 2nd then 82 would do it. Forget wining the league. Promotion is priority.

That was after 45 games though. Watford could win their last 1 if we had 82 we'd have to win at the KC

"We just look at the game that's in front of us," he said ( MM )

That game is against Sheffield Wednesday on Saturday, a team managed by Dave Jones, who Mackay replaced at Cardiff.

Jones was in charge at the Bluebirds when they lost 3-2 to Blackpool in the Championship promotion play-off final in 2010 - the closest Cardiff City have been to the top flight since the 1950s.

And Cardiff lost in the play-off semi final under Mackay last season leaving fans desperate for the club to avoid the end-of-season lottery after dominating the league this season.

But with 10 matches left, Mackay says he isn't setting any points targets for his team.

"We are the same as every other team in terms of analysing the averages," he conceded.

"We know that on average 75 [points] gets you into the play-offs and that 85 to 90 points gets you promoted automatically.

"But we haven't ourselves a target in terms of X amount of wins will do it for us. It's one game at a time."