ITS NOT ALL DEAD IN ALL SEATER STADIUMS WE CAN BE LIKE THIS

COME ON CITY FANS WHERES THE PRIDE/PASSION/ATMOSPHERE, THATS WHY I FELL IN LOVE WITH CARDIFF AND THE CROWDS THEN WERE 9,000 IN THE 70'S.

I'm still fuming regarding the rebrand, but thats not Malky's fault or the players,I will never like it, but its still our team

Premier League match this month March 2013.
Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJCiPhjqaJM

I know its not like Ninian Park days, but surely top of the League, runaway leaders we should be like this? If not why not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxNekjfR27o

COME ON CITY FANS WHERES THE PRIDE/PASSION/ATMOSPHERE, THATS WHY I FELL IN LOVE WITH CARDIFF AND THE CROWDS THEN WERE 9,000 IN THE 70'S.

I''m still fuming regarding the rebrand, but thats not Malky's fault or the players,I will never like it, but its still our team



Premier League match this month March 2013.
Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJCiPhjqaJM :mlky:

I know its not like Ninian Park days, but surely top of the League, runaway leaders we should be like this? If not why not?

No reason, that is what we should be like, are air horns banned from stadiums

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxNekjfR27o

I bet 35,000 City fans would make even more noise in a South Wales derby in the Prem

But to do with the stadium, White Hart Lane is an old ground built for a good atmosphere, all noise if projected around the ground. All our noise just goes straight out that gaping hole above our heads

COME ON CITY FANS WHERES THE PRIDE/PASSION/ATMOSPHERE, THATS WHY I FELL IN LOVE WITH CARDIFF AND THE CROWDS THEN WERE 9,000 IN THE 70'S.

I'm still fuming regarding the rebrand, but thats not Malky's fault or the players,I will never like it, but its still our team

Premier League match this month March 2013.
Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJCiPhjqaJM

I know its not like Ninian Park days, but surely top of the League, runaway leaders we should be like this? If not why not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxNekjfR27o

Was like that against Leeds.. I agree there is no reason why it's so quiet in the stadium. Don't see banter between stands anymore either, the grange and the bob bank used to bounce off each other.

The ninian stand by the away fans is terrible and gets the piss taken out of it every game by the away fans whilst they just stand there.. If winning or getting taunted your support is shit dont get them singing nothing will

The ninian stand by the away fans is terrible and gets the piss taken out of it every game by the away fans whilst they just stand there.. If winning or getting taunted your support is shit dont get them singing nothing will

The Canton isnt much better. Lack of new songs i think is one of the main problems

It would be bouncing if it wasn't for this rebrand bollocks

BLACKBURN HOME

Personally with this game being ages away(21 days to be precise) I think it's time we try and make this stadium intimidating, if fans like Blackburn at home then they'll like the games even more and want to come again. Blackburn may/may not be a good idea as people are having a so called 'march' which can only make a negative vibe amongst fans, so we could either counter this by preparing in the stadium or choose another game..

It's sort of like 'The Blue Army' idea. Unfortunately everything that is brought up/suggested on here never comes to fruition but if the word is spread and the club back this then I don't see why it can't work.

The game is on a Monday at 3pm, it's a bank holiday/half term correct? So we're expecting a big crowd and if we're in a good position then there will be a good vibe amongst fans not taking part in this march. One suggestion is for some Ninian Standers to move with their mates into the Canton Stand, but that sort of takes the atmosphere out of the Ninian Stand.

What needs to happen/could happen is that all type of fans bring merchandise, whether it be blue or red, any Cardiff City related merchandise that can be seen in the public eye, i.e flags/scarves/shirts, etc. I know that isn't ideal to a lot of people as they're against the re-brand but at the end of the day it's Cardiff City merchandise, it would be quite unique, both past & present being shown in one day. I''ve seen suggestions for horns and If I'm not mistaken aren't music instruments banned(but that was only after we banned the vuvuzela were banned over here and then we had the drum, I know they're not allowed at internationals but they could be accepted here, I know it seems incredibly manufactured and tacky, but the British mock the fellow Britons for having instruments and that yet all fap over Dortmund with their instruments and that. I think it would be great. The drum could back from this game.

Old chants and new chants all being sung on the day, on our day we are brilliant away from home but at home we sing the same old chants, the club could help with tweeting/posting facebook status' with ideas from fans etc.

Perhaps we could contact Ali as well with a certain playlist, we usually mix around but maybe we could have songs in order, so say Pigbag/Carnival De Paris/MOH,Hey Jude, so it really builds up before then.

It's just a suggestion.

It would be bouncing if it wasn't for this rebrand bollocks

No it wouldn't and don't confuse the issues

The CCS has never 'bounced' like Ninian Park and there are several factors involved; the worst of which are the moving of the 'singing' core support to the Canton Stand and the high expectations that seems to have put everyone on edge in recent times

Annis is right. 9,000 made far more noise than 23,000 do now but that CAN change and it MUST start from Tuesday vs Leicester and carry on for EVERY game we play this season

It would be bouncing if it wasn't for this rebrand bollocks

No it wouldn't and don't confuse the issues

The CCS has never 'bounced' like Ninian Park and there are several factors involved; the worst of which are the moving of the 'singing' core support to the Canton Stand and the high expectations that seems to have put everyone on edge in recent times

Annis is right. 9,000 made far more noise than 23,000 do now but that CAN change and it MUST start from Tuesday vs Leicester and carry on for EVERY game we play this season

The rebrand is one factor why the atmosphere is so bad whether you like it or not, a lot of fans are not enjoying it as much anymore because of it. Also the CCS has been just as good as Ninian Park at times since we've been here.

But I agree that the high expectations has put us on edge, when we're near promotion the atmosphere will pick up massively and once we're promoted there will be a lot of weight lifted off our shoulders which should hopefully bring back our atmosphere. There are a few things which the club could do to improve the atmopshere such as swapping the Canton Stand and Family Stand, or allowing a singing section in the Ninian Stand next to the away fans, but that's not going to happen any time soon unfortunately.

I know it goes against the grain but a horn and drum
Must be considered.
Us older noisy fans with more songs in our pocket
Are scattered around the stands.

117 -we try to sing but we are sitting with the new breed
Cinema fans. And the fans that can boo but not support.

These need to learn the ways.
And they may need a little help.........

Annis our Celebrations were better than that when we beat the Jacks

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Annis, have you considered that it may be the acoustics of the stadium that is to blame? I'm not a season ticket holder but I've sat or stood in both the Canton stand and the Ninian stand near the away supporters quite often. Both of these areas sing and it is really loud on times when you are there but you can hardly hear the other section singing in either case. I'm hoping that once the capacity is extended it may improve the acoustics by closing it in more.

When we beat the jacks thousands stayed behind in the stadium for a good half hour after the game finished singing and taunting the jacks, Leicester in play offs and palace in cup were also pretty good atmospheres, that's just it though big games it can be good but 99% of the time it's a library and the rebrand has not helped.

It's been said loads but changing the canton and grange would improve things dramatically

like this ?
http://youtu.be/HKJkl-AkIUg

When we beat the jacks thousands stayed behind in the stadium for a good half hour after the game finished singing and taunting the jacks, Leicester in play offs and palace in cup were also pretty good atmospheres, that's just it though big games it can be good but 99% of the time it's a library and the rebrand has not helped.

It's been said loads but changing the canton and grange would improve things dramatically

It will never ever happen, if we are to be promoted, I'm sure part of the family stand will become part of the away end, the family stand is also considerably smaller than the Canton Stand

It's been said loads but changing the canton and grange would improve things dramatically[/quote]
It will never ever happen, if we are to be promoted, I'm sure part of the family stand will become part of the away end, the family stand is also considerably smaller than the Canton Stand[/quote]

I think you'll find the family stand won't be affected if we go up. It is the Ninian that is affected as indicated to those that are renewing their ST.

that goal on 42 seconds in front of the range end, you just dont see that sort of celebrating, thats what it was all about. was it V wrexham? 1993 was one hell of year, one of the best of my life, raves, partying, football, clubin......no where near the premier league then but did anyone give one.....

that goal on 42 seconds in front of the grange end, you just dont see that sort of celebrating, thats what it was all about. was it V wrexham? 1993 was one hell of year, one of the best of my life, raves, partying, football, clubbin......no where near the premier league then but did anyone give one.....

Even before the rebrand the atmosphere was shite,people simply are not prepared to sing
The canton is not much better than other areas of the ground,its a shame because our away support is still pretty good.Leicester was particularly good this season.I felt proud to be a city fan that day

It would be bouncing if it wasn't for this rebrand bollocks

No it wouldn't and don't confuse the issues

The CCS has never 'bounced' like Ninian Park and there are several factors involved; the worst of which are the moving of the 'singing' core support to the Canton Stand and the high expectations that seems to have put everyone on edge in recent times

Annis is right. 9,000 made far more noise than 23,000 do now but that CAN change and it MUST start from Tuesday vs Leicester and carry on for EVERY game we play this season

Spot on Chris and I agree with you 100%
Why do some people jump on the rebrand wagon at every opportunity, just support Cardiff City ffs

It would be bouncing if it wasn't for this rebrand bollocks

No it wouldn't and don't confuse the issues

The CCS has never 'bounced' like Ninian Park and there are several factors involved; the worst of which are the moving of the 'singing' core support to the Canton Stand and the high expectations that seems to have put everyone on edge in recent times

Annis is right. 9,000 made far more noise than 23,000 do now but that CAN change and it MUST start from Tuesday vs Leicester and carry on for EVERY game we play this season

Spot on Chris and I agree with you 100%
Why do some people jump on the rebrand wagon at every opportunity, just support Cardiff City ffs

I wholly agree but I'm afraid SOME (and there aren't as many as it appears) are hell bent on destabilising the club at all costs and will look for ANY excuse

If only they spent as much energy [b]SUPORTING[/b] the club, eh?

Some of you on here must be blind. If you don't think the rebrand has put a negative vibe in the stands then you're lying to yourself.

Some of you on here must be blind. If you don't think the rebrand has put a negative vibe in the stands then you're lying to yourself.

It's undeniable the re brand has had some negative effect. The atmosphere has been average all season, only picking up towards the end of games if the result is in the balance. But the last two home games have been very quiet, especially the Brighton scarf game and I think it's only partly to do the dodgy performances.

It is also partly down to the type of fan we have attracted since we have been knocking on the door of the top flight, a case in point being the incredible amount of fans that buggered of on 75 minutes, just because we had the temerity to concede a goal

In all honesty I don't think the rebrand has changed anything, every game has been the same for me apart from some games eg. Leicester play offs and that.

I will be honest when we played Southampton last season the atomsphere was good when Miller scored 2.

Some of you on here must be blind. If you don't think the rebrand has put a negative vibe in the stands then you're lying to yourself.

NO, I'm afraid YOU are DELUDING yourself that to the MAJORITY it makes ANY difference as to 'how' they support the team itself OR the 'difference' it makes in the Stands

The so-called 'negative' mood was in place LONG before the re-brand issue (almost from when the stadium opened) and the value of the impact the Red/blue issue has had on the club was summed up on a certain Tuesday night versus Brighton when 25,000 scarves were worn by an enormous majority

I'm pleased to say I was not one of them and I am (as stated before) actually 'against' the re-brand but I am intelligent enough to realise that there are far more important things to worry about at our club, such as the team gaining promotion to the Premiership and the very survival of the club at all (neither of which would have been likely without VT)

I am not saying you are blind nor am I saying you are short-sighted or blinkered in your memory. But maybe just a tad 'blinkered', eh?

Some of you on here must be blind. If you don't think the rebrand has put a negative vibe in the stands then you're lying to yourself.

NO, I'm afraid YOU are DELUDING yourself that to the MAJORITY it makes ANY difference as to 'how' they support the team itself OR the 'difference' it makes in the Stands

The so-called 'negative' mood was in place LONG before the re-brand issue (almost from when the stadium opened) and the value of the impact the Red/blue issue has had on the club was summed up on a certain Tuesday night versus Brighton when 25,000 scarves were worn by an enormous majority

I'm pleased to say I was not one of them and I am (as stated before) actually 'against' the re-brand but I am intelligent enough to realise that there are far more important things to worry about at our club, such as the team gaining promotion to the Premiership and the very survival of the club at all (neither of which would have been likely without VT)

I am not saying you are blind nor am I saying you are short-sighted or blinkered in your memory. But maybe just a tad 'blinkered', eh?

Oooh, someone thinks they're smart because they can use capital letters and bold font.

I'm afraid you're talking bollocks and you've gone way off topic.

Some of you on here must be blind. If you don't think the rebrand has put a negative vibe in the stands then you're lying to yourself.

NO, I'm afraid YOU are DELUDING yourself that to the MAJORITY it makes ANY difference as to 'how' they support the team itself OR the 'difference' it makes in the Stands

The so-called 'negative' mood was in place LONG before the re-brand issue (almost from when the stadium opened) and the value of the impact the Red/blue issue has had on the club was summed up on a certain Tuesday night versus Brighton when 25,000 scarves were worn by an enormous majority

I'm pleased to say I was not one of them and I am (as stated before) actually 'against' the re-brand but I am intelligent enough to realise that there are far more important things to worry about at our club, such as the team gaining promotion to the Premiership and the very survival of the club at all (neither of which would have been likely without VT)

I am not saying you are blind nor am I saying you are short-sighted or blinkered in your memory. But maybe just a tad 'blinkered', eh?

Oooh, someone thinks they're smart because they can use capital letters and bold font.

I'm afraid you're talking bollocks and you've gone way off topic.

Off topic? Talking bollocks? Thinking I'm smart? Neither of the first two and defo the latter

The 'bold' font is just my style and it is YOU talking bollocks for blaming all our so-called ills on the re-brand

You are not in a minority in disliking the Red/Blue thing but you ARE in the minority for bleating on about it when there are far more important things going on at the moment or are you forgetting the team are games away from making history?

Hey, don't let that deflect you from whingeing about things you cannot influence mind

Didn't exactly come back with anything CONSTRUCTIVE either, did you?

From ths begining at the CCS the blame lies with the club not wanting an intimidating atmosphere. Not letting the A block of the old Grandstand sit togethef. Then putting the Family stand next to the away fans was the final nail in destroying a good atmosphere.

Since then the issues with standing and heavy handed stewards who are protected by a very good CCTV system had seen the atmosphere dive even further. But to me all this has not been helped by the accustics of the stadium. In the Ninian you have to be half way up to stay dry when it rains. Any noise does not stay in the stadium it just dissapears.

Now to add to that the re brand has affected the atmosphere even more. When the teams come out it has gone down to a warm clapping instead of a roar. The heart and soul has been ripped out and also with the new supporters that we have gained they dont know how we used to be. The new fans are more happy clappy type fans. All the mentioned above has resulted in a total souless bowl of a ground. Its like a morgue.

To put it right we need to sort the roof of the stadium, swap the grange and the Canton, Get back to blue and let the new Grange end not a designated seated area so you can sit where you want. The Club will not do any of this so just enjoy the peace and quiet

Some of you on here must be blind. If you don't think the rebrand has put a negative vibe in the stands then you're lying to yourself.

NO, I'm afraid YOU are DELUDING yourself that to the MAJORITY it makes ANY difference as to 'how' they support the team itself OR the 'difference' it makes in the Stands

The so-called 'negative' mood was in place LONG before the re-brand issue (almost from when the stadium opened) and the value of the impact the Red/blue issue has had on the club was summed up on a certain Tuesday night versus Brighton when 25,000 scarves were worn by an enormous majority

I'm pleased to say I was not one of them and I am (as stated before) actually 'against' the re-brand but I am intelligent enough to realise that there are far more important things to worry about at our club, such as the team gaining promotion to the Premiership and the very survival of the club at all (neither of which would have been likely without VT)

I am not saying you are blind nor am I saying you are short-sighted or blinkered in your memory. But maybe just a tad 'blinkered', eh?

Oooh, someone thinks they're smart because they can use capital letters and bold font.

I'm afraid you're talking bollocks and you've gone way off topic.

Off topic? Talking bollocks? Thinking I'm smart? Neither of the first two and defo the latter

The 'bold' font is just my style and it is YOU talking bollocks for blaming all our so-called ills on the re-brand

You are not in a minority in disliking the Red/Blue thing but you ARE in the minority for bleating on about it when there are far more important things going on at the moment or are you forgetting the team are games away from making history?

Hey, don't let that deflect you from whingeing about things you cannot influence mind

Didn't exactly come back with anything CONSTRUCTIVE either, did you?

You have no idea what you're talking about, you haven't even thought about what I said, you're just assuming everything based on nothing other than I said that there is a "negative vibe" in the stands, stop crying about it

Cheer up