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CHRIS HUHME

Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:24 pm

If that is how you spell his name.

Looks like he is on his way to prison with his ex wife because she took the blame for his speeding resulting in her getting the points on the licence.

I know a few that have done this.

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:34 pm

i heard Harry Redknapp is doing something similar, needs all the points he can get!!

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:31 am

So is this offence punishable by imprisonment or is there more to it?

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:38 am

Bakedalasker wrote:So is this offence punishable by imprisonment or is there more to it?


no conspiracy to pervert to course of justice is punishable with imprisonment its a serious offence

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:45 am

JONNY012697 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:So is this offence punishable by imprisonment or is there more to it?


no conspiracy to pervert to course of justice is punishable with imprisonment its a serious offence


Oh boy, this could be useful to me.

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:56 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:So is this offence punishable by imprisonment or is there more to it?


no conspiracy to pervert to course of justice is punishable with imprisonment its a serious offence


Oh boy, this could be useful to me.


it doesnt matter what the crime is whether you frame someone for murder or persuade the mrs to take your speeding fine the offence is the same, conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. So if you murder someone and frame someone else you will be charged with murder and conspiracy to pevert the course of justice, if you get your mrs to take your points from speeding, you will be charged with the original offence of speeding and conspiracy to pevert the course of justice

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:59 am

Bakedalasker wrote:So is this offence punishable by imprisonment or is there more to it?




Have no doubt that this IS a serious offence and is punishable by imprisonment

However, Huhne is a very high profile defendant and will undoubtedly pay a heavy price in order to send a message to others who may be thinking of doing similar ;)

The issue here is that his ex-wife (Pryce) bubbled him in an act of spite rather than him being caught out by the law enforcers, so unless the photograph from the camera is conclusive then there is little they (the law) can do except be grateful that 'someone' coughs up and swells the Governmental coffers ;)

Personally, I think they've got it arse backwards and a prison sentence (I'm confident it will occur) is a bit OTT and a LONG driving ban would be more appropriate in these cases, whilst Drink Driving should incur a prison sentence and the PERMANENT removal of a Driving Licence IF (a) a third party is injured or worse, and/or (b) they are caught a second time for te same offence ;)

Draconian indeed but I have suffered as the victim of a hit-and-run drink driver and could show you pictures and videos of the aftermath of such incidents that would make even the strongest stomach churn :( :ayatollah:

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:09 am

JONNY012697 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:So is this offence punishable by imprisonment or is there more to it?


no conspiracy to pervert to course of justice is punishable with imprisonment its a serious offence


Oh boy, this could be useful to me.


it doesnt matter what the crime is whether you frame someone for murder or persuade the mrs to take your speeding fine the offence is the same, conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. So if you murder someone and frame someone else you will be charged with murder and conspiracy to pevert the course of justice, if you get your mrs to take your points from speeding, you will be charged with the original offence of speeding and conspiracy to pevert the course of justice


Right Jonny, I'm not involved in this.

A girl I know took the hit for her bully boyfriend. Will she get into trouble if its reported, happened a couple of years ago.

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:25 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:So is this offence punishable by imprisonment or is there more to it?


no conspiracy to pervert to course of justice is punishable with imprisonment its a serious offence


Oh boy, this could be useful to me.


it doesnt matter what the crime is whether you frame someone for murder or persuade the mrs to take your speeding fine the offence is the same, conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. So if you murder someone and frame someone else you will be charged with murder and conspiracy to pevert the course of justice, if you get your mrs to take your points from speeding, you will be charged with the original offence of speeding and conspiracy to pevert the course of justice


Right Jonny, I'm not involved in this.

A girl I know took the hit for her bully boyfriend. Will she get into trouble if its reported, happened a couple of years ago.


interesting case, you say bully boyfriend, so there could be a case that she is being coerced into taking the hit, in which case she is a victim, so she wouldnt be charged, her boyfriend on the other hand would then get charged with the original crime (assuming it was him), conspiracy to pervert the course of justice (by passing the guilt to his girlfriend), also depending on how the girlfriend was actually involved all sorts of other charges like blackmail, threatening behaviour and so forth (if he bullied her into taking the blame).

Obviously I dont know the details and I doubt you will post them on here but hope this helps.

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:02 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:So is this offence punishable by imprisonment or is there more to it?


no conspiracy to pervert to course of justice is punishable with imprisonment its a serious offence


Oh boy, this could be useful to me.


it doesnt matter what the crime is whether you frame someone for murder or persuade the mrs to take your speeding fine the offence is the same, conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. So if you murder someone and frame someone else you will be charged with murder and conspiracy to pevert the course of justice, if you get your mrs to take your points from speeding, you will be charged with the original offence of speeding and conspiracy to pevert the course of justice


Right Jonny, I'm not involved in this.

A girl I know took the hit for her bully boyfriend. Will she get into trouble if its reported, happened a couple of years ago.


Be careful because in the courts you have to prove these things beyond reasonable doubt. If your friend goes for it she needs to have plenty of evidence of coercion.

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:49 pm

mjw6150 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:So is this offence punishable by imprisonment or is there more to it?


no conspiracy to pervert to course of justice is punishable with imprisonment its a serious offence


Oh boy, this could be useful to me.


it doesnt matter what the crime is whether you frame someone for murder or persuade the mrs to take your speeding fine the offence is the same, conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. So if you murder someone and frame someone else you will be charged with murder and conspiracy to pevert the course of justice, if you get your mrs to take your points from speeding, you will be charged with the original offence of speeding and conspiracy to pevert the course of justice


Right Jonny, I'm not involved in this.

A girl I know took the hit for her bully boyfriend. Will she get into trouble if its reported, happened a couple of years ago.


Be careful because in the courts you have to prove these things beyond reasonable doubt. If your friend goes for it she needs to have plenty of evidence of coercion.


Thanks Mjw....trust met here is plenty of evidence...usually is when it comes to a bully.

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:55 pm

mjw6150 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
JONNY012697 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:So is this offence punishable by imprisonment or is there more to it?


no conspiracy to pervert to course of justice is punishable with imprisonment its a serious offence


Oh boy, this could be useful to me.


it doesnt matter what the crime is whether you frame someone for murder or persuade the mrs to take your speeding fine the offence is the same, conspiracy to pervert the course of justice. So if you murder someone and frame someone else you will be charged with murder and conspiracy to pevert the course of justice, if you get your mrs to take your points from speeding, you will be charged with the original offence of speeding and conspiracy to pevert the course of justice


Right Jonny, I'm not involved in this.

A girl I know took the hit for her bully boyfriend. Will she get into trouble if its reported, happened a couple of years ago.


Be careful because in the courts you have to prove these things beyond reasonable doubt. If your friend goes for it she needs to have plenty of evidence of coercion.




Just a pointer for future debates:

Civil Court (Compensation Based) = Balance of Probability

Criminal Court (Fines and/or Imprisonment) = Beyond Reasnable Doubt

In the case above there would have to be positive evidence that anything unlawful had occurred (in this case coercion) and that is often difficult to prove :(

Coercion:

The intimidation of a victim to compel the individual to do some act against his or her will by the use of psychological pressure, physical force, or threats. The crime of intentionally and unlawfully restraining another's freedom by threatening to commit a crime, accusing the victim of a crime, disclosing any secret that would seriously impair the victim's reputation in the community, or by performing or refusing to perform an official action lawfully requested by the victim, or by causing an official to do so.

A defense asserted in a criminal prosecution that a person who committed a crime did not do so of his or her own free will, but only because the individual was compelled by another through the use of physical force or threat of immediate serious bodily injury or death

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:48 pm

Both of them jailed for 8 months, bet she's regretting her 'honesty' now

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:52 pm

Gavlar wrote:Both of them jailed for 8 months, bet she's regretting her 'honesty' now


Is this over the traffic offense or are there others?

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:55 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Gavlar wrote:Both of them jailed for 8 months, bet she's regretting her 'honesty' now


Is this over the traffic offense or are there others?


They were jailed for perverting the course of justice

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:58 pm

As the saying goes "Hell hath no fury like a women scorned" and this proves it's right.

Bet she wishes she never started this by selling the story to the press and he wishes he never shagged the younger model.

But can anyone really believe that prison is the answer to this type of offence. I know of at least two people who have done this to stop a partner getting a driving ban.

I bet there are thousands thinking "there but for the grace of god go I " this evening.


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:27 pm

That whole case is a load of bollocks.

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:42 pm

What have Chris Huhne and QPR got in common ???

Both are going down for the sake of three points ;)

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:28 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:So is this offence punishable by imprisonment or is there more to it?




Have no doubt that this IS a serious offence and is punishable by imprisonment

However, Huhne is a very high profile defendant and will undoubtedly pay a heavy price in order to send a message to others who may be thinking of doing similar ;)

The issue here is that his ex-wife (Pryce) bubbled him in an act of spite rather than him being caught out by the law enforcers, so unless the photograph from the camera is conclusive then there is little they (the law) can do except be grateful that 'someone' coughs up and swells the Governmental coffers ;)

Personally, I think they've got it arse backwards and a prison sentence (I'm confident it will occur) is a bit OTT and a LONG driving ban would be more appropriate in these cases, whilst Drink Driving should incur a prison sentence and the PERMANENT removal of a Driving Licence IF (a) a third party is injured or worse, and/or (b) they are caught a second time for te same offence ;)

Draconian indeed but I have suffered as the victim of a hit-and-run drink driver and could show you pictures and videos of the aftermath of such incidents that would make even the strongest stomach churn :( :ayatollah:




As I said, these two have been set up as 'examples' to others who might do the same :(

With regards to HIM: Some sympathy in as much as he has only done what many have done before him. The law didn't 'find him out' as there was obviously no supporting evidence in the beginning (his ex-wife might look like a bloke but even Arsene Wenger couldn't claim NOT to have seen the difference between the two!! :lol: ) otherwise they couldn't have got away with it in the beginning ;)

With regards to HER: 8 months is simply 'just desserts' for being so naively spiteful and vindictive in the beginning and I bet she didn't see that coming when she thought it was 'funny' to land HIM in the doggy doo-doo!!

Still the 'issue' with the Barrister who 'let the story out' to come. If I was her (maybe on the weekend only but that's MY business!! ;) :laughing6: ) I would be having a few sleepless nights...just like the other two!! ;) :laughing6: :laughing6:

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:33 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:So is this offence punishable by imprisonment or is there more to it?




Have no doubt that this IS a serious offence and is punishable by imprisonment

However, Huhne is a very high profile defendant and will undoubtedly pay a heavy price in order to send a message to others who may be thinking of doing similar ;)

The issue here is that his ex-wife (Pryce) bubbled him in an act of spite rather than him being caught out by the law enforcers, so unless the photograph from the camera is conclusive then there is little they (the law) can do except be grateful that 'someone' coughs up and swells the Governmental coffers ;)

Personally, I think they've got it arse backwards and a prison sentence (I'm confident it will occur) is a bit OTT and a LONG driving ban would be more appropriate in these cases, whilst Drink Driving should incur a prison sentence and the PERMANENT removal of a Driving Licence IF (a) a third party is injured or worse, and/or (b) they are caught a second time for te same offence ;)

Draconian indeed but I have suffered as the victim of a hit-and-run drink driver and could show you pictures and videos of the aftermath of such incidents that would make even the strongest stomach churn :( :ayatollah:




As I said, these two have been set up as 'examples' to others who might do the same :(

With regards to HIM: Some sympathy in as much as he has only done what many have done before him. The law didn't 'find him out' as there was obviously no supporting evidence in the beginning (his ex-wife might look like a bloke but even Arsene Wenger couldn't claim NOT to have seen the difference between the two!! :lol: ) otherwise they couldn't have got away with it in the beginning ;)

With regards to HER: 8 months is simply 'just desserts' for being so naively spiteful and vindictive in the beginning and I bet she didn't see that coming when she thought it was 'funny' to land HIM in the doggy doo-doo!!

Still the 'issue' with the Barrister who 'let the story out' to come. If I was her (maybe on the weekend only but that's MY business!! ;) :laughing6: ) I would be having a few sleepless nights...just like the other two!! ;) :laughing6: :laughing6:


like it - pithy and amusing all in one :thumbup:

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:07 pm

Complete waste of everyones time and money.

Re: CHRIS HUHME

Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:50 pm

JimmyJazz wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
Sven Ghali wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:So is this offence punishable by imprisonment or is there more to it?




Have no doubt that this IS a serious offence and is punishable by imprisonment

However, Huhne is a very high profile defendant and will undoubtedly pay a heavy price in order to send a message to others who may be thinking of doing similar ;)

The issue here is that his ex-wife (Pryce) bubbled him in an act of spite rather than him being caught out by the law enforcers, so unless the photograph from the camera is conclusive then there is little they (the law) can do except be grateful that 'someone' coughs up and swells the Governmental coffers ;)

Personally, I think they've got it arse backwards and a prison sentence (I'm confident it will occur) is a bit OTT and a LONG driving ban would be more appropriate in these cases, whilst Drink Driving should incur a prison sentence and the PERMANENT removal of a Driving Licence IF (a) a third party is injured or worse, and/or (b) they are caught a second time for te same offence ;)

Draconian indeed but I have suffered as the victim of a hit-and-run drink driver and could show you pictures and videos of the aftermath of such incidents that would make even the strongest stomach churn :( :ayatollah:




As I said, these two have been set up as 'examples' to others who might do the same :(

With regards to HIM: Some sympathy in as much as he has only done what many have done before him. The law didn't 'find him out' as there was obviously no supporting evidence in the beginning (his ex-wife might look like a bloke but even Arsene Wenger couldn't claim NOT to have seen the difference between the two!! :lol: ) otherwise they couldn't have got away with it in the beginning ;)

With regards to HER: 8 months is simply 'just desserts' for being so naively spiteful and vindictive in the beginning and I bet she didn't see that coming when she thought it was 'funny' to land HIM in the doggy doo-doo!!

Still the 'issue' with the Barrister who 'let the story out' to come. If I was her (maybe on the weekend only but that's MY business!! ;) :laughing6: ) I would be having a few sleepless nights...just like the other two!! ;) :laughing6: :laughing6:


like it - pithy and amusing all in one :thumbup:





I have my moments (usually on said weekend) ;) :lol: :lol: :ayatollah: