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Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:01 am
Felt for the lad last night - clearly struggled and had a poor game. Think some are expecting too much from him - he's raw but I think he's being relied upon too much right now.
Some numpties were giving him stick.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:29 am
He's only 20 and inexperienced. Good players learn from their mistakes and I think Ben Nugent will be a real talent in 2/3 years.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:32 am
He looked quite nervous. If him and Turner were not told to not lump the ball forward everytime maybe we'd keep the ball more often. The most no nonsense defenders ever.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:49 am
He looked very nervous. Hudson would have talked him through that game he really looked a much better defender next to Hudson. Not having a dig at Turner, just think Hudson is a superb leader right now
Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:53 am
was like a rabbit in the headlights... felt sorry for him as turner wasnt helping him or telling him what to do... he was left to make his own judgement too many times..
important games now and we looked a mess at the back... think the games are too big for him at the moment..
kev is an experienced defender and despite recent criticism should really have been used with connolly moving to the middle..
lets just hope hudson is back for leicester and bellamy too.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:04 am
neeball wrote:He looked very nervous. Hudson would have talked him through that game he really looked a much better defender next to Hudson. Not having a dig at Turner, just think Hudson is a superb leader right now
I agree, he needed Hudson talking him through and calming him down. Sooner he's back the better!
Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:25 am
Most youngsters who come in has an experienced head along side them to talk to them.
Turner looked like he didn't open his mouth.
Turner is struggling himself. I'd say Nugent had a better game than turner yesterday. Only just mind.
But then!!
What protection did they have infront of them?
Gunner picked up and early booking and Whitts is as strong as a soggy chip wrapper!!
Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:30 am
of the back four i thought nugent had the best game he was the one telling the senior players who to pick up and mark the lad w8ill benifit with hudson to help him turner is the cause of our recent poor play he constantly lu7mps the ball away losing possession whilst he was out wee played out from the back its our passing game that served us well and we have abandoned it
Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:34 am
It's our midfield that parts like the red sea whenever the opposition run at them with the ball that's the problem.
They were all too scared to make any challenges.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:58 am
He will have a bad game but still he will improve.
He's 20 and being used in a team fightong for promotion and first in the league.
It's not so hard for the lads who step in at Peterboro or someone else.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:02 am
Aramore wrote:It's our midfield that parts like the red sea whenever the opposition run at them with the ball that's the problem.
They were all too scared to make any challenges.
absolutely agree with this.Genuinely painful to watch
Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:10 pm
It seems harsh putting the kid in the wrong side as well.
Turner is more experienced why not shift him over.
Also the experienced Marshall giving Nugent the ball in awkward situations on his wrong foot didn't help.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:16 pm
2blue2handle wrote:It seems harsh putting the kid in the wrong side as well.
Turner is more experienced why not shift him over.
Also the experienced Marshall giving Nugent the ball in awkward situations on his wrong foot didn't help.
I did wonder why Malky put Nugent on the wrong side.
I guessed that maybe he felt that if the other 3 were settled then that would help Nugent settle ion more. Didn't seem to work though.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:28 pm
I thought he did ok, he was trying his best and he was talking to those around him and shouting to players for them to mark and talking to turner....To me he looked like he was trying to do what Hudson does, but Hudson can organise and defend at the same time. If he was playing with Hudson and not turner I think he would shine more.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:45 pm
He don't really have a good first touch & panicked like hell on a one to one with no one around him,& Malky really shouted at him last night to think more.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:26 pm
Nugent gets stuck in and gives it is all but has no composure on the ball pretty similar to ben turner.When youve got both centre backs with the same weaknesses only bad things can happen
Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:27 pm
englishbluebird wrote:Nugent gets stuck in and gives it is all but has no composure on the ball pretty similar to ben turner.When youve got both centre backs with the same weaknesses only bad things can happen
I go agree but what surprised me is two big strong centre backs where totally bullied by Sammon all game.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:40 pm
2blue2handle wrote:englishbluebird wrote:Nugent gets stuck in and gives it is all but has no composure on the ball pretty similar to ben turner.When youve got both centre backs with the same weaknesses only bad things can happen
I go agree but what surprised me is two big strong centre backs where totally bullied by Sammon all game.
I think Nugent's better on the ball than Turner but yesterday the midfield was giving them no options whatsoever.
I swear they were purposefully standing in inbetween derby players so that they didn't have to collect the ball.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:55 pm
Aramore wrote:2blue2handle wrote:englishbluebird wrote:Nugent gets stuck in and gives it is all but has no composure on the ball pretty similar to ben turner.When youve got both centre backs with the same weaknesses only bad things can happen
I go agree but what surprised me is two big strong centre backs where totally bullied by Sammon all game.
I think Nugent's better on the ball than Turner but yesterday the midfield was giving them no options whatsoever.
I swear they were purposefully standing in inbetween derby players so that they didn't have to collect the ball.
The midfield had no shape whats so ever.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:52 pm
2blue2handle wrote:englishbluebird wrote:Nugent gets stuck in and gives it is all but has no composure on the ball pretty similar to ben turner.When youve got both centre backs with the same weaknesses only bad things can happen
I go agree but what surprised me is two big strong centre backs where totally bullied by Sammon all game.
next weeek theyve got david nugent and chris wood to contend with,could turn out to be painful viewing
Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:55 pm
Said this all game, looked as though there was no communication between the pair of them as they were hesitant in committing to decisions and marking. Half the time looked as though the ball would drop and he'd have no call from anyone so just hit it last minute out of fear which is understandable really. Didn't help that he had no protection as the central midfielders were non existent, constantly allowed to walk straight through and put them under pressure at the back.
Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:42 pm
He was up against a very good striker in the championship causes both turner and Nugent murder all game, the midfield looked shocking though we were outplayed there, Whitts give the ball away and we really need to watch ourselves on the counter we haven't got the pace like derby showed and Brighton
Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:19 pm
I agree with most of what's been said in this thread. I like nugent as a youngster coming through the ranks and he does the simple things well. For me though he won't be good enough for top end of the championship or certainly the prem as he's not got pace
Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:33 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Felt for the lad last night - clearly struggled and had a poor game. Think some are expecting too much from him - he's raw but I think he's being relied upon too much right now.
Some numpties were giving him stick.

nearly everyone had a bad game and i think it spread to the young lad, if Hudson was along side him he would have been ok,
And yes everyone expects big things from already which shows he is going to be a cracking player soon
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