FAO Ben

Alright mate, how's tricks. I am surprised for your seemingly 100% backing of the rebrand, cast your minds back to the old Grange End days, how would you have reacted then if I had come up to you and said we were being taken over by a foreigner, would have foreign flags flying at our stadium, dancing dragons and a red kit.

How would you have reacted if I had said we were selling our identity for success, I truly believe back in the day you would have laughed, told me to stop taking the drugs, ranted for about half hour about "bloody foreigners" and told me to get another pint of Bow in.

I would like to know what has changed since those glorious days mate, not having a go just truly interested in how someone so passionate for the heart and soul of the club back in the day can be behind this rebrand.

Nice one mate.

Hay fella

It all died for me the day we left Ninian Park, prior to that I hadn't missed a home game in 12 or 13 years and even used to attend reserve games etc at leckwith, Its not the same anymore, so all the crap thats going on at the moment is just more nails in the coffin thats allready tightly sealed shut for me

its very sad and i wish i could feel diffrent

I just do alot of running now and running to raise money for charity's etc

Hay fella

It all died for me the day we left Ninian Park, prior to that I hadn't missed a home game in 12 or 13 years and even used to attend reserve games etc at leckwith, Its not the same anymore, so all the crap thats going on at the moment is just more nails in the coffin thats allready tightly sealed shut for me

its very sad and i wish i could feel diffrent

I just do alot of running now and running to raise money for charity's etc

It died for me when leaving Ninian mate as well but I was slowly getting back the passion until the dreaded rebrand day.

I was only asking as you seem to be behind Tans changes, or are you just on a wind up as usual haha

Im not behind it , but the passion is not there to fight it or have opinions

but without him the club is fucked, there's no-one else going to come in and plough the money in, for years we've had dodgey chairmen with no money and trying to keep the club afloat every year, just seems like the drama surrounding cardiff city will continue

and with the jacks doing so well, I want to cardiff to get up there and be above them again and for them to be in our shadows and the only way thats going to happen is with tan and his money

I dunno mate the passion and love isn't there anymore since we left Ninian , just doesn't seem the same club I once supported anymore

Im not behind it , but the passion is not there to fight it or have opinions

but without him the club is fucked, there's no-one else going to come in and plough the money in, for years we've had dodgey chairmen with no money and trying to keep the club afloat every year, just seems like the drama surrounding cardiff city will continue

and with the jacks doing so well, I want to cardiff to get up there and be above them again and for them to be in our shadows and the only way thats going to happen is with tan and his money

I dunno mate the passion and love isn't there anymore since we left Ninian , just doesn't seem the same club I once supported anymore

Fair enough mate, personally I don't give a f**k if the jacks are above us, we get there under this rebranded red guise and it will give me no satisfaction whatsoever.

I'd take Cardiff City FC, blue, with our souls and pride intact in League Two than this current shower of shite in the Premiership and I stick by that 100%.

Anyway, debating it til the cows come home isn't going to change anything as the dictator will do what he likes after the red scarf fiasco.

Have a good one mate and keep the Ninian memories burning bright! Blue flame mind!

how many foreigner's have been the city chairman over the last 50 years,the last time i can think a welshman owned the club was in 1962 to 1972 and that was Fred Dewey ,take a look not many ,here is the wiki list,can anyone add any
1972 1975 David Goldstone
1975 1977 Stefan Terlezki
1977 1983 Bob Grogan
1983 1986 Jack Leonard
1986 1992 Tony Clemo
1992 1995 Rick Wright
1995 1999 Samesh Kumar
1999 2000 Steve Borley welsh im sure
2000 2006 Sam Hammam
2006 2010 Peter Ridsdale Deputy Chairman (2005–06)
2010 2013 Chan Tien Ghee

I've been thinking about it and the only person who'd lose out if i stopped going is me. What is the point? I won't get my football fix, I won't see live football. I could go watch another club but that's worse than going to watch Cardiff City in new attire and there will be no attachment.

So I could just stay in like a spoilt brat and spit my dummy out and the club move forward and don't care as already stated or I could go and pray for the best in the future that Tan see's some sense and reverts a few things back once the club becomes more known on foreign shores. Maybe wishful thinking but what other choice is there?

I will go on Tuesday with my blue and white scarf and wave it proudly. I'm still a bluebird at heart and forever will be. Tan has won and by sitting at home and not going to the football he'd be winning by a bigger margin. He'd be getting me out of the stadium and replaced by a pro-red who will succumb to his every wish and wear red like a puppet on a string just for Premier League football.

By going on a regular basis I can make sure blue and white is in that stadium and whilst it may be against a sea of red I believe that will just make me and the other minority of blue and white scarf/flag waving loonies stand out more. One day we will go back to blue so I'm not being forced out of the Cardiff City House to live elsewhere, this place is my home and although Tan has turned up with some money and redecorated, it doesn't mean Im going to move out.

Sad reading posts like this. What is left when the passion has gone ? I run my gob off !! But for what i ask myself it makes me feel better for 30 seconds then its back to frustration again. The Club the Fans i remember have gone and i should except that. When i do i will walk. Just hard to walk at the moment, and Simon i am like you i hate the Jacks with a passion and it hurts even more not just because they are doing well but the way they have done it.
Its nice we are top but it means very little as its not the same Club or with its famous mad as hatters Fans

how many foreigner's have been the city chairman over the last 50 years,the last time i can think a welshman owned the club was in 1962 to 1972 and that was Fred Dewey ,take a look not many ,here is the wiki list,can anyone add any
1972 1975 David Goldstone
1975 1977 Stefan Terlezki
1977 1983 Bob Grogan
1983 1986 Jack Leonard
1986 1992 Tony Clemo
1992 1995 Rick Wright
1995 1999 Samesh Kumar
1999 2000 Steve Borley welsh im sure
2000 2006 Sam Hammam
2006 2010 Peter Ridsdale Deputy Chairman (2005–06)
2010 2013 Chan Tien Ghee

At least most of those had a clue what football was all about. This Tan is clueless

I've been thinking about it and the only person who'd lose out if i stopped going is me. What is the point? I won't get my football fix, I won't see live football. I could go watch another club but that's worse than going to watch Cardiff City in new attire and there will be no attachment.

So I could just stay in like a spoilt brat and spit my dummy out and the club move forward and don't care as already stated or I could go and pray for the best in the future that Tan see's some sense and reverts a few things back once the club becomes more known on foreign shores. Maybe wishful thinking but what other choice is there?

I will go on Tuesday with my blue and white scarf and wave it proudly. I'm still a bluebird at heart and forever will be. Tan has won and by sitting at home and not going to the football he'd be winning by a bigger margin. He'd be getting me out of the stadium and replaced by a pro-red who will succumb to his every wish and wear red like a puppet on a string just for Premier League football.

By going on a regular basis I can make sure blue and white is in that stadium and whilst it may be against a sea of red I believe that will just make me and the other minority of blue and white scarf/flag waving loonies stand out more. One day we will go back to blue so I'm not being forced out of the Cardiff City House to live elsewhere, this place is my home and although Tan has turned up with some money and redecorated, it doesn't mean Im going to move out.

Brilliant post mate and I fully respect your actions, I just can't do it though. Seeing a red shirt turns my stomach, if I go down the CCS at the moment I would end up either walking out or getting arrested. It makes me physically sick to see what we have become .

Sad reading posts like this. What is left when the passion has gone ? I run my gob off !! But for what i ask myself it makes me feel better for 30 seconds then its back to frustration again. The Club the Fans i remember have gone and i should except that. When i do i will walk. Just hard to walk at the moment, and Simon i am like you i hate the Jacks with a passion and it hurts even more not just because they are doing well but the way they have done it.
Its nice we are top but it means very little as its not the same Club or with its famous mad as hatters Fans

I try not to let it get me wound up anymore Nukes but it never works ha ha

Sad reading posts like this. What is left when the passion has gone ? I run my gob off !! But for what i ask myself it makes me feel better for 30 seconds then its back to frustration again. The Club the Fans i remember have gone and i should except that. When i do i will walk. Just hard to walk at the moment, and Simon i am like you i hate the Jacks with a passion and it hurts even more not just because they are doing well but the way they have done it.
Its nice we are top but it means very little as its not the same Club or with its famous mad as hatters Fans

If you hated the jacks you wouldn't be friends with one. I'm not having a go, just saying.

I've been thinking about it and the only person who'd lose out if i stopped going is me. What is the point? I won't get my football fix, I won't see live football. I could go watch another club but that's worse than going to watch Cardiff City in new attire and there will be no attachment.

So I could just stay in like a spoilt brat and spit my dummy out and the club move forward and don't care as already stated or I could go and pray for the best in the future that Tan see's some sense and reverts a few things back once the club becomes more known on foreign shores. Maybe wishful thinking but what other choice is there?

I will go on Tuesday with my blue and white scarf and wave it proudly. I'm still a bluebird at heart and forever will be. Tan has won and by sitting at home and not going to the football he'd be winning by a bigger margin. He'd be getting me out of the stadium and replaced by a pro-red who will succumb to his every wish and wear red like a puppet on a string just for Premier League football.

By going on a regular basis I can make sure blue and white is in that stadium and whilst it may be against a sea of red I believe that will just make me and the other minority of blue and white scarf/flag waving loonies stand out more. One day we will go back to blue so I'm not being forced out of the Cardiff City House to live elsewhere, this place is my home and although Tan has turned up with some money and redecorated, it doesn't mean Im going to move out.

Brilliant post mate and I fully respect your actions, I just can't do it though. Seeing a red shirt turns my stomach, if I go down the CCS at the moment I would end up either walking out or getting arrested. It makes me physically sick to see what we have become .

Same here ely boy but I still do away games. I can't handle the ccs anymore.

Sad reading posts like this. What is left when the passion has gone ? I run my gob off !! But for what i ask myself it makes me feel better for 30 seconds then its back to frustration again. The Club the Fans i remember have gone and i should except that. When i do i will walk. Just hard to walk at the moment, and Simon i am like you i hate the Jacks with a passion and it hurts even more not just because they are doing well but the way they have done it.
Its nice we are top but it means very little as its not the same Club or with its famous mad as hatters Fans

If you hated the jacks you wouldn't be friends with one. I'm not having a go, just saying.

Thats a bit shallow Chief. Fooking hate Man U but i got mates that support them. Not all friends has to be Cardiff City. Besides i dont get on with many now