Over the years

How many of you have come here or on the other mb every time we have lost a game to let off steam and complained about players, managers, directors etc. ? Don't give me this crap that most were loyal supporters etc.

Our attendances used to fluctuate by 2-5k on one result. I don't buy in to that rubbish - remember the corner of the grandstand and enclosure that would be half empty yet with a big away following it would be packed? These muppets would be the real "plastics," in those days we had another name for them....... "hooligans."

In reality most of us were plastics were of some description........... we are all customers whether you like it or not.

This season I'm loving it!

How many of you have come here or on the other mb every time we have lost a game to let off steam and complained about players, managers, directors etc. ? Don't give me this crap that most were loyal supporters etc.

Our attendances used to fluctuate by 2-5k on one result. I don't buy in to that rubbish - remember the corner of the grandstand and enclosure that would be half empty yet with a big away following it would be packed? These muppets would be the real "plastics," in those days we had another name for them....... "hooligans."

In reality most of us were plastics were of some description........... we are all customers whether you like it or not.

This season I'm loving it!

I don't think many people have claimed we have the most loyal supporters going, in fact i think after this rebrand and the way we've rolled over the opposite has actually been proved.

But individuals can only speak for themselves, and will know themself whether they've followed Cardiff through thick and thin, gone to near enough all games regardless of opposition, made sacrifices to go to games or whatever. There are individuals who can be totally against the rebrand, like myself, but be totally able to call themself a "loyal supporter", a fan, a "die-hard" or however you choose to describe it, and not just a "customer" as VT so bluntly put it.

The hooligan reputation put a lot of people who would have been loyal over the years from supporting as avidly as they would otherwise have done.

If we went back to those days and there was trouble at many games, I'd not be as keen to go as I now am.

I go to far more away games now than I ever did, as I never wanted to get caught up in that kind of garbage.

Thank goodness for modern football

The hooligan reputation put a lot of people who would have been loyal over the years from supporting as avidly as they would otherwise have done.

If we went back to those days and there was trouble at many games, I'd not be as keen to go as I now am.

I go to far more away games now than I ever did, as I never wanted to get caught up in that kind of garbage.

Thank goodness for modern football

My father first had a season ticket in 1921 as a boy - he stopped going in the early 1970s because of all that nonsense.

I sometimes think part of Vincent Tan's thinking on the rebrand is that the Bluebirds are a 'brand' that in many people's eyes is associated with trouble.

The hooligan reputation put a lot of people who would have been loyal over the years from supporting as avidly as they would otherwise have done.

If we went back to those days and there was trouble at many games, I'd not be as keen to go as I now am.

I go to far more away games now than I ever did, as I never wanted to get caught up in that kind of garbage.

Thank goodness for modern football

My father first had a season ticket in 1921 as a boy - he stopped going in the early 1970s because of all that nonsense.

I sometimes think part of Vincent Tan's thinking on the rebrand is that the Bluebirds are a 'brand' that in many people's eyes is associated with trouble.

So is Cardiff City.

Over the years the only time I remember the fans using the name "Bluebirds" was when we scored. If you told anyone you were going to see Cardiff City it was either "the City" or "the football" .....it was never "I'm going to see the Bluebirds."