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By Paul Abbandonato Mar 1st 2013




Let’s hope Tan is true to those words, that this is an end to the whole unsavoury issue.
“that we will not be changing our name from Cardiff City Football Club.”



A Cardiff City name change would be totally unacceptable


A NEW colour was one thing... just about acceptable to the majority of Cardiff City fans.

But a new name? Preposterous from the outset and totally and utterly unacceptable.

Thank goodness Vincent Tan put out a statement yesterday afternoon where he appeared to backtrack from original comments attributed to him and categorically assured Bluebirds supporters “that we will not be changing our name from Cardiff City Football Club.”

Let’s hope Tan is true to those words, that this is an end to the whole unsavoury issue.

One which, for a few hours yesterday, enraged Bluebirds followers who had previously displayed fierce loyalty to Tan, despite the hugely controversial rebranding from red to blue.

The FA rule book states in black and white that a club seeking to change its name for the following season must put in a formal request for approval by April 1.

There is a certain synergy to that date, given the nonsense that we woke up to yesterday morning.

58% of fans say they would leave if club changes name

Had a story appeared at the beginning of next month about Cardiff City becoming the Cardiff Dragons, we would have laughed it off as one of those customary April Fool’s pranks.

Sadly, however, yesterday was no time for levity.

Virtually to a person, Bluebirds fans were up in arms at the spectre that had been raised by Tan.

Rightly so, too. Cardiff City FC is one of the greatest brand names in Welsh sport and it must never be permitted to cease to exist.

Suggestions that the Bluebirds would be renamed either Cardiff Dragons or even Cardiff Malaysia have been going the rounds for a while in the Welsh capital.





But no-one really gave the re-naming theory too much credence... until Tan was quoted yesterday morning as stating it was something he couldn’t rule out.

Pardon? This is not the RaboPro12 League. Next season, our Bluebirds should be playing in the Premier League, the biggest and most high profile domestic competition in world football.

The eyes of the world will be upon our capital city club. The idea of them meeting Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal as the Cardiff Dragons, Cardiff Malaysia or anything other than Cardiff City is frankly too ridiculous for words.

At a time when the Bluebirds are close to playing for the biggest prize in their history, their very identity could have disappeared.

No thank-you.

Not that we haven’t been here before with the Bluebirds.

When Sam Hammam previously breezed into the club, he toyed with the idea of renaming it the Celtic Dragons or Wales United.

Hammam, like Tan, saw Cardiff as a Premier League team in the making to represent the whole of Wales.

His argument was that sell-out Millennium Stadium crowds at the time to watch Wales internationals were by and large dominated by Bluebirds fans.

Hammam even went as far as exploring whether the then Wales boss Mark Hughes would become Bluebirds manager, too, as part of the ‘Cardiff are representing Wales’ plan.

Hammam abandoned his rebranding proposal. Tan, doubtless shocked by the outcry amongst fans yesterday morning, has quickly shelved any idea of renaming the club, too.

His call is the right one. There are still some Cardiff fans who will never buy into the red kit and have ceased to support the club any more.

But the overwhelming majority have embraced the change of colour, given the Premier League dream is finally being delivered as part of it.

A change of name, on the other hand, is a step too far. If Tan didn’t realise that before, he most certainly does after the furore his initial remarks caused.

As the owner who has given the go-ahead for millions to be ploughed into the Bluebirds, Tan is right when he says that gives him “the right to make a call on some things you believe will make it better.”

Fair enough. But the difference between Cardiff City and any other business enterprise Tan has ventured into is that the real owners of the football club are the fans.

They were in situ before Tan came on board. They will be in situ after he has gone, whenever that may be.

Their views should always be taken into account. And they don’t want Cardiff City’s name to be changed. Full stop.

From here on in, we should be celebrating the march of Malky Mackay’s men into the Premier League elite.

Talk of a change of name serves no other purpose than to split the fan base. At a moment when everyone should be pulling together, the timing could not have been worse.

In his statement designed to put the record straight, Tan appeared to acknowledge that by saying, “I would ask that we join together, continuing your excellent support at what is a critical juncture in our season.

“Our collective aim is to back Malky Mackay and his team as they work hard to bring us success.

“Working together we can achieve great things in the name of Cardiff City Football Club.”

Note those last four words. Cardiff City Football Club.

Let’s always keep it that way.

Please.



Read more: Wales Online http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... z2MF9bww5H

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... agons.html

Dont trust Tan at all he said we would keep the Blue kit and badge but then said back me and my rebrand or you will get nothing .Everyone well most jumped ship sold out and said ok shit dont go have it your way so he did.

Dont trust him after this and just to add Tan knows f**k all about football and knows even less about football fans which is his downfall in eyes.

I cant help but think he has planted the seed like he did before with the red thing .You just dont no what he is gonna do and that is why I havent renewed my season ticket yet.

What I will say is I will fight for my club but I would like other fans to do the same the blue balloon's up at watford is a start Tans circus goes on in which direction though ????????????

Anyway Tan is happy that in his words 75 % are happy and the other 25 % who are not doesnt matter so I dont matter to him well what an idiot of a man good shout there Tan

Dont trust Tan at all he said we would keep the Blue kit and badge but then said back me and my rebrand or you will get nothing .Everyone well most jumped ship sold out and said ok shit dont go have it your way so he did.


No he didn't, now if you going to use snippets have the decency to use the whole section in the right context.
he offered to withdraw the rebrand and allow us to carry on in blue, but stated that he would not continue with his investment which was part of the package, when people weighed it up they realised the the future of the club was at risk and rallied around to ask him to go ahead, which is what he did, was you in a coma when that happened.

Dont trust him after this and just to add Tan knows f**k all about football and knows even less about football fans which is his downfall in eyes.

Like that bloke said in the programme, he knows nothing about Parmacy's, but he still opened one hundred branches this year, we got people at the club that know about football, let him handle the business, which you can see from his track record, he does well.

I cant help but think he has planted the seed like he did before with the red thing .You just dont no what he is gonna do and that is why I havent renewed my season ticket yet.

And you actually think for one second after announcing no name change on TV he'll go back on that and lose face and trust worldwide, we ain't talking Ridsdale here.

What I will say is I will fight for my club but I would like other fans to do the same the blue balloon's up at watford is a start Tans circus goes on in which direction though ????????????

What have you done to fight so far, and would you be happy to fight enough to drive VT away?

Anyway Tan is happy that in his words 75 % are happy and the other 25 % who are not doesnt matter so I dont matter to him well what an idiot of a man good shout there Tan

He was comparing that to a standard business module, and as for 75%-25% it is apparent it's more like 95% -5% in this case at best.

Gwyn you are incorrect Tan did promise to play the rest of the season in blue and keep the badge this is a fact and yes he did utter those words in public in a press conference. He later made statements suggesting that he may not invest further in the club because his plans were being opposed. Some fans like yourself shat themselves and interpreted this as the end of our club and Tan took confidence from people like yourself and did a u turn.
Before Tan did this U turn he did not even have the decency to do another press confrence to say that he was reverting back to his original plans so you can see why there is little trust in what he says anymore.

I would also question your figures about fans being happy as you quote a 95% to 5% split. I think that any pole would reveal that there would be more than 5% who were unhappy at this time.

Dont trust Tan at all he said we would keep the Blue kit and badge but then said back me and my rebrand or you will get nothing .Everyone well most jumped ship sold out and said ok shit dont go have it your way so he did.


No he didn't, now if you going to use snippets have the decency to use the whole section in the right context.
he offered to withdraw the rebrand and allow us to carry on in blue, but stated that he would not continue with his investment which was part of the package, when people weighed it up they realised the the future of the club was at risk and rallied around to ask him to go ahead, which is what he did, was you in a coma when that happened.

Dont trust him after this and just to add Tan knows f**k all about football and knows even less about football fans which is his downfall in eyes.

Like that bloke said in the programme, he knows nothing about Parmacy's, but he still opened one hundred branches this year, we got people at the club that know about football, let him handle the business, which you can see from his track record, he does well.

I cant help but think he has planted the seed like he did before with the red thing .You just dont no what he is gonna do and that is why I havent renewed my season ticket yet.

And you actually think for one second after announcing no name change on TV he'll go back on that and lose face and trust worldwide, we ain't talking Ridsdale here.

What I will say is I will fight for my club but I would like other fans to do the same the blue balloon's up at watford is a start Tans circus goes on in which direction though ????????????

What have you done to fight so far, and would you be happy to fight enough to drive VT away?

Anyway Tan is happy that in his words 75 % are happy and the other 25 % who are not doesnt matter so I dont matter to him well what an idiot of a man good shout there Tan

He was comparing that to a standard business module, and as for 75%-25% it is apparent it's more like 95% -5% in this case at best.

Where on TV does he say no name change?

If we get to the prem then Tan will ride on the euphoria and then announce he intends to keep us there with the offer of a warchest for Malky and a further promise to make us the next Man United. He will then announce that in order to achieve this he will need to generate more money by rebranding further. At this stage most fans will still be on cloud nine and thats when he will announce the name change.
When we get to this stage half the plastic fans still drunk on the euphoria will want the investment and beleive that Tan will make us the next Man U and they would be fully prepared to sell their grandmothers to achieve this. The other half of the fans will not put up with a name change at any cost. You have been warned.

The FA rule book states in black and white that a club seeking to change its name for the following season must put in a formal request for approval by April 1.

BEWARE

Gwyn ive disagreed with your position on most things over the past few months including events at the KCB meeting. However, your position is becoming more extreme by the day. You appear to have lost the ability to be objective, see anyone elses point of view and twist everything around to fit your version of events. Even a tad of healthy scepticism seems beyond you - are you pro VT whatever? If so then fine, say so. You cannot agree with anyone who voices anything anti rebrand or calls into question the management echelons of the club. Its frankly embarassing.

Gwyn you are incorrect Tan did promise to play the rest of the season in blue and keep the badge this is a fact and yes he did utter those words in public in a press conference. He later made statements suggesting that he may not invest further in the club because his plans were being opposed. Some fans like yourself shat themselves and interpreted this as the end of our club and Tan took confidence from people like yourself and did a u turn.
Before Tan did this U turn he did not even have the decency to do another press confrence to say that he was reverting back to his original plans so you can see why there is little trust in what he says anymore.

I would also question your figures about fans being happy as you quote a 95% to 5% split. I think that any pole would reveal that there would be more than 5% who were unhappy at this time.

He didn't promise to play the rest of the season in blue, why tell lies, just use the truth and the facts.
The statement read out two days after the repulsion at the rebrand was apologetic, and said it was never their intention to cause upset or disrespect, they said they would offer to walk away but stay with the club initially and try and help find new investors and we all know that was unlikely, we couldn't find investors previously, we were hardly likely to find them now the mess we were in.

They said that by withdrawing their investment and future plans that would allow the club to play in blue, but when questioned the CEO did say that if they did stop their current investment and propping us up, aat best we would only be able to trade for a few more months before going out of business.

So we had the choice, play in blue, but it may have been for aa few months at most, or ask them to reconsider and provide the investment along with the rebrand, the shock waves ensured that the vast majority of true fans put the club's future ahead of their personal preferences in order that the club carried on trading.

So how that translates in to your version of accounts is beyond me.
95% were happy enough to wear the red scarf and show they were accepting of the situation, does mean they were happy, I'm not happy with the price w paid, but has I keep saying , as a real fan, it's not about what is best for me, it's about what's best for the club, and as for honoring our tradition, yes all for it, but let's make sure we have a future as well.

Gwyn ive disagreed with your position on most things over the past few months including events at the KCB meeting. However, your position is becoming more extreme by the day. You appear to have lost the ability to be objective, see anyone elses point of view and twist everything around to fit your version of events. Even a tad of healthy scepticism seems beyond you - are you pro VT whatever? If so then fine, say so. You cannot agree with anyone who voices anything anti rebrand or calls into question the management echelons of the club. Its frankly embarassing.

Pro VT, I'm pro club and he's the best option, if not the only option as I see it, if you have a master plan, then share it.

If we get to the prem then Tan will ride on the euphoria and then announce he intends to keep us there with the offer of a warchest for Malky and a further promise to make us the next Man United. He will then announce that in order to achieve this he will need to generate more money by rebranding further. At this stage most fans will still be on cloud nine and thats when he will announce the name change.
When we get to this stage half the plastic fans still drunk on the euphoria will want the investment and beleive that Tan will make us the next Man U and they would be fully prepared to sell their grandmothers to achieve this. The other half of the fans will not put up with a name change at any cost. You have been warned.

Oh my God, then if you have proof it is a worry, please show us or let us know, where did you find this information that skilled journalist's have failed to come up with, share your source.

That link in the op says we went from red to blue.

Good old journalism hey!

Dont trust Tan at all he said we would keep the Blue kit and badge but then said back me and my rebrand or you will get nothing .Everyone well most jumped ship sold out and said ok shit dont go have it your way so he did.


No he didn't, now if you going to use snippets have the decency to use the whole section in the right context.
he offered to withdraw the rebrand and allow us to carry on in blue, but stated that he would not continue with his investment which was part of the package, when people weighed it up they realised the the future of the club was at risk and rallied around to ask him to go ahead, which is what he did, was you in a coma when that happened.

Dont trust him after this and just to add Tan knows f**k all about football and knows even less about football fans which is his downfall in eyes.

Like that bloke said in the programme, he knows nothing about Parmacy's, but he still opened one hundred branches this year, we got people at the club that know about football, let him handle the business, which you can see from his track record, he does well.

I cant help but think he has planted the seed like he did before with the red thing .You just dont no what he is gonna do and that is why I havent renewed my season ticket yet.

And you actually think for one second after announcing no name change on TV he'll go back on that and lose face and trust worldwide, we ain't talking Ridsdale here.

What I will say is I will fight for my club but I would like other fans to do the same the blue balloon's up at watford is a start Tans circus goes on in which direction though ????????????

What have you done to fight so far, and would you be happy to fight enough to drive VT away?

Anyway Tan is happy that in his words 75 % are happy and the other 25 % who are not doesnt matter so I dont matter to him well what an idiot of a man good shout there Tan

He was comparing that to a standard business module, and as for 75%-25% it is apparent it's more like 95% -5% in this case at best.

Where on TV does he say no name change?

He says he hasn't discussed it or given it any real thought, he then went on to clarify it by issuing a statement to the press and the fans. Did you miss it.

Thats not telling the whole story Gwyn. What he actually said was:
I've not really thought about this in detail. "But when we get there we'll make a decision. And when we make a decision we will convey it to everyone."

So (by his own admission) he has actually thought about it and when we get to the prem he will make a decision and then communicate that decision to us. This is not the statement of a man who has completely ruled out a name change.

Thats not telling the whole story Gwyn. What he actually said was:
I've not really thought about this in detail. "But when we get there we'll make a decision. And when we make a decision we will convey it to everyone."

So (by his own admission) he has actually thought about it and when we get to the prem he will make a decision and then communicate that decision to us. This is not the statement of a man who has completely ruled out a name change.

You're right, but this statement is:-

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1358516?cc=5739#

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21624957

Thats not telling the whole story Gwyn. What he actually said was:
I've not really thought about this in detail. "But when we get there we'll make a decision. And when we make a decision we will convey it to everyone."

So (by his own admission) he has actually thought about it and when we get to the prem he will make a decision and then communicate that decision to us. This is not the statement of a man who has completely ruled out a name change.

You're right, but this statement is:-

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1358516?cc=5739#

Well, there may lie the problem as he is not consistent so its no wonder fans don't trust anything he states. Mind you its not the first time he has changed his opinion is it.

Gwyn ive disagreed with your position on most things over the past few months including events at the KCB meeting. However, your position is becoming more extreme by the day. You appear to have lost the ability to be objective, see anyone elses point of view and twist everything around to fit your version of events. Even a tad of healthy scepticism seems beyond you - are you pro VT whatever? If so then fine, say so. You cannot agree with anyone who voices anything anti rebrand or calls into question the management echelons of the club. Its frankly embarassing.

Pro VT, I'm pro club and he's the best option, if not the only option as I see it, if you have a master plan, then share it.

QED - you see things as simple as VT's way or oblivion. Whatever ones position on the rebrand VT cant be right on everything and if disageement with him means he throws his toys out then so be it. f**k him. Why be that sycophantic that you feel you have to be his one man defender on here on everything all the time.

I honestly think it’s time for VT to get involved with fans organisations so that we can all come together with a strategic marketing plan for both Wales/UK and the Far East.

The name has to stay because it is marketing gold but maybe we should look at having a feeder club in a Far East league called Cardiff Dragons? We could send promising youngsters and older players still in contract (e.g. Steve McPhail) out on loan to play for this team which would supplement the local talent.

IMO we have seen awarding winning badge and shirt designs on this Message Board and VT should think seriously of adopting some of them because they are excellent and would sell anywhere.

Gwyn ive disagreed with your position on most things over the past few months including events at the KCB meeting. However, your position is becoming more extreme by the day. You appear to have lost the ability to be objective, see anyone elses point of view and twist everything around to fit your version of events. Even a tad of healthy scepticism seems beyond you - are you pro VT whatever? If so then fine, say so. You cannot agree with anyone who voices anything anti rebrand or calls into question the management echelons of the club. Its frankly embarassing.

Pro VT, I'm pro club and he's the best option, if not the only option as I see it, if you have a master plan, then share it.

QED - you see things as simple as VT's way or oblivion. Whatever ones position on the rebrand VT cant be right on everything and if disageement with him means he throws his toys out then so be it. f**k him. Why be that sycophantic that you feel you have to be his one man defender on here on everything all the time.

Sorry buddy but I would trust VT's opinion 800m (or 1.3 billion depending on currancy) more times than yours because he is right all of the time and his fortune proves that.

Tony you are indeed one of his loyal subjects. Rest assured that there will be a free scarf and season ticket landing on the doormat anytime soon.

By Paul Abbandonato Mar 1st 2013




Let’s hope Tan is true to those words, that this is an end to the whole unsavoury issue.
“that we will not be changing our name from Cardiff City Football Club.”



A Cardiff City name change would be totally unacceptable


A NEW colour was one thing... just about acceptable to the majority of Cardiff City fans.

But a new name? Preposterous from the outset and totally and utterly unacceptable.

Thank goodness Vincent Tan put out a statement yesterday afternoon where he appeared to backtrack from original comments attributed to him and categorically assured Bluebirds supporters “that we will not be changing our name from Cardiff City Football Club.”

Let’s hope Tan is true to those words, that this is an end to the whole unsavoury issue.

One which, for a few hours yesterday, enraged Bluebirds followers who had previously displayed fierce loyalty to Tan, despite the hugely controversial rebranding from red to blue.

The FA rule book states in black and white that a club seeking to change its name for the following season must put in a formal request for approval by April 1.

There is a certain synergy to that date, given the nonsense that we woke up to yesterday morning.

58% of fans say they would leave if club changes name

Had a story appeared at the beginning of next month about Cardiff City becoming the Cardiff Dragons, we would have laughed it off as one of those customary April Fool’s pranks.

Sadly, however, yesterday was no time for levity.

Virtually to a person, Bluebirds fans were up in arms at the spectre that had been raised by Tan.

Rightly so, too. Cardiff City FC is one of the greatest brand names in Welsh sport and it must never be permitted to cease to exist.

Suggestions that the Bluebirds would be renamed either Cardiff Dragons or even Cardiff Malaysia have been going the rounds for a while in the Welsh capital.





But no-one really gave the re-naming theory too much credence... until Tan was quoted yesterday morning as stating it was something he couldn’t rule out.

Pardon? This is not the RaboPro12 League. Next season, our Bluebirds should be playing in the Premier League, the biggest and most high profile domestic competition in world football.

The eyes of the world will be upon our capital city club. The idea of them meeting Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal as the Cardiff Dragons, Cardiff Malaysia or anything other than Cardiff City is frankly too ridiculous for words.

At a time when the Bluebirds are close to playing for the biggest prize in their history, their very identity could have disappeared.

No thank-you.

Not that we haven’t been here before with the Bluebirds.

When Sam Hammam previously breezed into the club, he toyed with the idea of renaming it the Celtic Dragons or Wales United.

Hammam, like Tan, saw Cardiff as a Premier League team in the making to represent the whole of Wales.

His argument was that sell-out Millennium Stadium crowds at the time to watch Wales internationals were by and large dominated by Bluebirds fans.

Hammam even went as far as exploring whether the then Wales boss Mark Hughes would become Bluebirds manager, too, as part of the ‘Cardiff are representing Wales’ plan.

Hammam abandoned his rebranding proposal. Tan, doubtless shocked by the outcry amongst fans yesterday morning, has quickly shelved any idea of renaming the club, too.

His call is the right one. There are still some Cardiff fans who will never buy into the red kit and have ceased to support the club any more.

But the overwhelming majority have embraced the change of colour, given the Premier League dream is finally being delivered as part of it.

A change of name, on the other hand, is a step too far. If Tan didn’t realise that before, he most certainly does after the furore his initial remarks caused.

As the owner who has given the go-ahead for millions to be ploughed into the Bluebirds, Tan is right when he says that gives him “the right to make a call on some things you believe will make it better.”

Fair enough. But the difference between Cardiff City and any other business enterprise Tan has ventured into is that the real owners of the football club are the fans.

They were in situ before Tan came on board. They will be in situ after he has gone, whenever that may be.

Their views should always be taken into account. And they don’t want Cardiff City’s name to be changed. Full stop.

From here on in, we should be celebrating the march of Malky Mackay’s men into the Premier League elite.

Talk of a change of name serves no other purpose than to split the fan base. At a moment when everyone should be pulling together, the timing could not have been worse.

In his statement designed to put the record straight, Tan appeared to acknowledge that by saying, “I would ask that we join together, continuing your excellent support at what is a critical juncture in our season.

“Our collective aim is to back Malky Mackay and his team as they work hard to bring us success.

“Working together we can achieve great things in the name of Cardiff City Football Club.”

Note those last four words. Cardiff City Football Club.

Let’s always keep it that way.

Please.



Read more: Wales Online http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... z2MF9bww5H

Although I do like the occasional piss take on here I hope that Vincent Tan (who it seems is nuttier than a squirrel in a KP factory) doesn't shaft you lot any more than he has.

That man sums up everything that is wrong with the modern game IMO

Tony you are indeed one of his loyal subjects. Rest assured that there will be a free scarf and season ticket landing on the doormat anytime soon.

I admire Tonys stand in the way he has held himself over this sad episode. If I was to be converted to red it would be because of the way people like Tony have conducted themselves.

I honestly think it’s time for VT to get involved with fans organisations so that we can all come together with a strategic marketing plan for both Wales/UK and the Far East.

The name has to stay because it is marketing gold but maybe we should look at having a feeder club in a Far East league called Cardiff Dragons? We could send promising youngsters and older players still in contract (e.g. Steve McPhail) out on loan to play for this team which would supplement the local talent.

IMO we have seen awarding winning badge and shirt designs on this Message Board and VT should think seriously of adopting some of them because they are excellent and would sell anywhere.

Tony, this in theory sounds great but it represents everything I fear in the rebrand.

I would rather have a feeder club outside Cardiff called the Cardiff Red Dragons bringing up our own youngster than being used as a stepping stone for foreign kids.

If we get to the prem then Tan will ride on the euphoria and then announce he intends to keep us there with the offer of a warchest for Malky and a further promise to make us the next Man United. He will then announce that in order to achieve this he will need to generate more money by rebranding further. At this stage most fans will still be on cloud nine and thats when he will announce the name change.
When we get to this stage half the plastic fans still drunk on the euphoria will want the investment and beleive that Tan will make us the next Man U and they would be fully prepared to sell their grandmothers to achieve this. The other half of the fans will not put up with a name change at any cost. You have been warned.

This is SPOT ON and in my eyes will be exactly what will happen, the first report stated Tan said they were rumours but hasnt ruled out changing the name and will discuss at the end of the season! With the warchest will come the name change! I hope I am wrong, we will be entering the biggest league in the world with all eyes on it and deserve it as Cardiff CITY

Sadly Tony Blue your position seems to be being adopted by many - "lets trust him cos hes rich" regardless of whatever whim or flight of fancy he has in mind this week. Such slavish conformity is so far removed from what I thought our supporters would do is sad. Very sad. And all because some are hell bent on promotion whatever the cost.I dont want to have another rebrand discussion as its been done to death. We are where we are - but this issue of simply falling into line with Tans wishes is slightly differnet and its pissing me off. FFS why are we rolling over and allowing all this to happen. He dont give a toss about those who attend the games, only the potential asian market. He's said that openly

Sadly Tony Blue your position seems to be being adopted by many - "lets trust him cos hes rich" regardless of whatever whim or flight of fancy he has in mind this week. Such slavish conformity is so far removed from what I thought our supporters would do is sad. Very sad. And all because some are hell bent on promotion whatever the cost.I dont want to have another rebrand discussion as its been done to death. We are where we are - but this issue of simply falling into line with Tans wishes is slightly differnet and its pissing me off. FFS why are we rolling over and allowing all this to happen. He dont give a toss about those who attend the games, only the potential asian market. He's said that openly

I agree, so called intelligent grown adults rolling over so easily because they are fearful of losing out on glory or feel threatened by a 4 foot asian is nothing short of pitiful. Its no wonder that the atmosphere down the CCS is suffering.

Big tent has gotta b having a drop maybe a holiday home in Malaysia so he can wear his mankind

Tony you are indeed one of his loyal subjects. Rest assured that there will be a free scarf and season ticket landing on the doormat anytime soon.

Actually you are not far from the truth