A question for "pro reds"

Tan isn't just changing us to red, he is determined to eradicate blue. The blue kit hasn't been used for months and will almost certainly be consigned to history next season, and it looks very likely that all traces of blue will be discarded at our home ground too. Along with the Bluebird.

Why do you think he is so determined to get rid of our traditional colour and how do you feel about his motivation for doing so?

To be fair he just gave his reasons.

Crazy in the extreme but at least hes admitted now.

Tan isn't just changing us to red, he is determined to eradicate blue. The blue kit hasn't been used for months and will almost certainly be consigned to history next season, and it looks very likely that all traces of blue will be discarded at our home ground too. Along with the Bluebird.

Why do you think he is so determined to get rid of our traditional colour and how do you feel about his motivation for doing so?

If the colour goees from the stadium it only makes sense since we play in red now.

The blue going completely...Well this is more scaremongering, NOBODY on here knows if blue stays or goes next year. Like you said though we have hardly played in blue this season, so would it really matter? It doesnt stop everyone of us in the stadium wearing retro blue kits, having blue scarfs etc, chanting bluebirds. We know hes aiming this at the Far East, he also said China looks at blue as a colour of Mourning.

Tan isn't just changing us to red, he is determined to eradicate blue. The blue kit hasn't been used for months and will almost certainly be consigned to history next season, and it looks very likely that all traces of blue will be discarded at our home ground too. Along with the Bluebird.

Why do you think he is so determined to get rid of our traditional colour and how do you feel about his motivation for doing so?

If the colour goees from the stadium it only makes sense since we play in red now.

The blue going completely...Well this is more scaremongering, NOBODY on here knows if blue stays or goes next year. Like you said though we have hardly played in blue this season, so would it really matter? It doesnt stop everyone of us in the stadium wearing retro blue kits, having blue scarfs etc, chanting bluebirds. We know hes aiming this at the Far East, he also said China looks at blue as a colour of Mourning.

All hail King Tan...

Tan isn't just changing us to red, he is determined to eradicate blue. The blue kit hasn't been used for months and will almost certainly be consigned to history next season, and it looks very likely that all traces of blue will be discarded at our home ground too. Along with the Bluebird.

Why do you think he is so determined to get rid of our traditional colour and how do you feel about his motivation for doing so?

If the colour goees from the stadium it only makes sense since we play in red now.

The blue going completely...Well this is more scaremongering, NOBODY on here knows if blue stays or goes next year. Like you said though we have hardly played in blue this season, so would it really matter? It doesnt stop everyone of us in the stadium wearing retro blue kits, having blue scarfs etc, chanting bluebirds. We know hes aiming this at the Far East, he also said China looks at blue as a colour of Mourning.

I don't believe it is scaremongering, I am confident that this will happen during the summer.

I also deeply resent the fact that he places more importance on China and Malaysia's traditions than those of our club.

Tan isn't just changing us to red, he is determined to eradicate blue. The blue kit hasn't been used for months and will almost certainly be consigned to history next season, and it looks very likely that all traces of blue will be discarded at our home ground too. Along with the Bluebird.

Why do you think he is so determined to get rid of our traditional colour and how do you feel about his motivation for doing so?

If the colour goees from the stadium it only makes sense since we play in red now.

The blue going completely...Well this is more scaremongering, NOBODY on here knows if blue stays or goes next year. Like you said though we have hardly played in blue this season, so would it really matter? It doesnt stop everyone of us in the stadium wearing retro blue kits, having blue scarfs etc, chanting bluebirds. We know hes aiming this at the Far East, he also said China looks at blue as a colour of Mourning.

All hail King Tan...

Rather have him than had the Courts rip us apart through liquidation. People who say it wouldnt have happened wouldnt have put a bet on it. Rangers learnt the hard way!

Tan isn't just changing us to red, he is determined to eradicate blue. The blue kit hasn't been used for months and will almost certainly be consigned to history next season, and it looks very likely that all traces of blue will be discarded at our home ground too. Along with the Bluebird.

Why do you think he is so determined to get rid of our traditional colour and how do you feel about his motivation for doing so?

If the colour goees from the stadium it only makes sense since we play in red now.
The blue going completely...Well this is more scaremongering, NOBODY on here knows if blue stays or goes next year. Like you said though we have hardly played in blue this season, so would it really matter? It doesnt stop everyone of us in the stadium wearing retro blue kits, having blue scarfs etc, chanting bluebirds. We know hes aiming this at the Far East, he also said China looks at blue as a colour of Mourning.

All hail King Tan...

Rather have him than had the Courts rip us apart through liquidation. People who say it wouldnt have happened wouldnt have put a bet on it. Rangers learnt the hard way!

Never said it wouldnt. Either way the clubs dead.

Tan isn't just changing us to red, he is determined to eradicate blue. The blue kit hasn't been used for months and will almost certainly be consigned to history next season, and it looks very likely that all traces of blue will be discarded at our home ground too. Along with the Bluebird.

Why do you think he is so determined to get rid of our traditional colour and how do you feel about his motivation for doing so?

If the colour goees from the stadium it only makes sense since we play in red now.

The blue going completely...Well this is more scaremongering, NOBODY on here knows if blue stays or goes next year. Like you said though we have hardly played in blue this season, so would it really matter? It doesnt stop everyone of us in the stadium wearing retro blue kits, having blue scarfs etc, chanting bluebirds. We know hes aiming this at the Far East, he also said China looks at blue as a colour of Mourning.

All hail King Tan...

Rather have him than had the Courts rip us apart through liquidation. People who say it wouldnt have happened wouldnt have put a bet on it. Rangers learnt the hard way!

There is no doubt that his involvement with CCFC prevented us from getting into serious trouble, but that does not justify what he has done to our identity. The way he is behaving shows nothing but contempt for the feelings our our fans.

Tan isn't just changing us to red, he is determined to eradicate blue. The blue kit hasn't been used for months and will almost certainly be consigned to history next season, and it looks very likely that all traces of blue will be discarded at our home ground too. Along with the Bluebird.

Why do you think he is so determined to get rid of our traditional colour and how do you feel about his motivation for doing so?

If the colour goees from the stadium it only makes sense since we play in red now.

The blue going completely...Well this is more scaremongering, NOBODY on here knows if blue stays or goes next year. Like you said though we have hardly played in blue this season, so would it really matter? It doesnt stop everyone of us in the stadium wearing retro blue kits, having blue scarfs etc, chanting bluebirds. We know hes aiming this at the Far East, he also said China looks at blue as a colour of Mourning.

All hail King Tan...

Rather have him than had the Courts rip us apart through liquidation. People who say it wouldnt have happened wouldnt have put a bet on it. Rangers learnt the hard way!

Hang on,you have a go at someone for scaremongering yet you are doing excatly the same because NOBODY on here knows that the club would go into liquidation if Tan left!!!! In my opinion there would be a que of people wanting to buy a soon to be premier league club.

With debts like ours, the loss of money each week, the fact nobody was looking to take us on, means it was more than likely that we would have went into liquidation, Football clubs arent exactly let off lightly with debts as big as ours were these days! But say we didnt and went into administration, well Pompy have shown us what would have happened, and thats just painful to watch.

With debts like ours, the loss of money each week, the fact nobody was looking to take us on, means it was more than likely that we would have went into liquidation, Football clubs arent exactly let off lightly with debts as big as ours were these days! But say we didnt and went into administration, well Pompy have shown us what would have happened, and thats just painful to watch.

and you know that nobody was willing to take us on do you..? In my opinion the Malaysians were the best option at the time but now with the Premiership on the horizon there will be many more takers if it was put up for sale now especially with the Premiership pot being bigger now.

Using Pompey as an example is poor and scaremongering in my opinion because there are plenty more clubs who have comeback far stronger after entering administration. And I am also sure that there are just too many people whowould stand to lose too much money for them to chance taking the club into administration and Tan being one of them so if he wanted to walk he will sell.

I think he was quite straight in this interview on many issues except the name change however he has made a statement regarding the name is not going to change so that is closed in my view.

Also I am interested what the views are over Hamman and his supporters before anyone says anything I loved Sam when he was here but all this Langston crap i have lost any good feelings for him but Tan has said if Hamman loves the club as he states lets see what happens I think Tan is just proving that Hamma is only interested in Hamman or he will get rid of the langston debt and a place on the board etc

Just interested what every one thinks as I have mixed views

With debts like ours, the loss of money each week, the fact nobody was looking to take us on, means it was more than likely that we would have went into liquidation, Football clubs arent exactly let off lightly with debts as big as ours were these days! But say we didnt and went into administration, well Pompy have shown us what would have happened, and thats just painful to watch.

and you know that nobody was willing to take us on do you..? In my opinion the Malaysians were the best option at the time but now with the Premiership on the horizon there will be many more takers if it was put up for sale now especially with the Premiership pot being bigger now.

Using Pompey as an example is poor and scaremongering in my opinion because there are plenty more clubs who have comeback far stronger after entering administration. And I am also sure that there are just too many people whowould stand to lose too much money for them to chance taking the club into administration and Tan being one of them so if he wanted to walk he will sell.

name a club that has come back stronger from Administration in the time VT has owned us?

And its not scaremongering about the owners, If you can name some interested parties who in the end had the cash please name them!?

I think he was quite straight in this interview on many issues except the name change however he has made a statement regarding the name is not going to change so that is closed in my view.

Also I am interested what the views are over Hamman and his supporters before anyone says anything I loved Sam when he was here but all this Langston crap i have lost any good feelings for him but Tan has said if Hamman loves the club as he states lets see what happens I think Tan is just proving that Hamma is only interested in Hamman or he will get rid of the langston debt and a place on the board etc

Just interested what every one thinks as I have mixed views

I think most chairman are only in it for either the fame or for cash. I never saw Hamman at a cardiff game before or after his ownership, and definitely never saw VT on the bob bank.

Sadly very few chairman these days are fans, and even fewer chairman that support there own club give out the cash. Its alot harder to spend your own cash than it is for us fans to try and spend the owners cash

If the colour goees from the stadium it only makes sense since we play in red now.

The blue going completely...Well this is more scaremongering, NOBODY on here knows if blue stays or goes next year. Like you said though we have hardly played in blue this season, so would it really matter? It doesnt stop everyone of us in the stadium wearing retro blue kits, having blue scarfs etc, chanting bluebirds. We know hes aiming this at the Far East, he also said China looks at blue as a colour of Mourning.

Kind of ironic really considering he's on the verge of killing our club.

With debts like ours, the loss of money each week, the fact nobody was looking to take us on, means it was more than likely that we would have went into liquidation, Football clubs arent exactly let off lightly with debts as big as ours were these days! But say we didnt and went into administration, well Pompy have shown us what would have happened, and thats just painful to watch.

and you know that nobody was willing to take us on do you..? In my opinion the Malaysians were the best option at the time but now with the Premiership on the horizon there will be many more takers if it was put up for sale now especially with the Premiership pot being bigger now.

Using Pompey as an example is poor and scaremongering in my opinion because there are plenty more clubs who have comeback far stronger after entering administration. And I am also sure that there are just too many people whowould stand to lose too much money for them to chance taking the club into administration and Tan being one of them so if he wanted to walk he will sell.

name a club that has come back stronger from Administration in the time VT has owned us?

And its not scaremongering about the owners, If you can name some interested parties who in the end had the cash please name them!?

If I can answer the second question first. I can assure you that when you have someone like Keith Harris taking a keen interest in getting a buyer for the club there would have been more than one party interested.

At the time the club finished in the playoffs which was just before the playoff final in May 2010 so you are looking at 3 years ago now. In fact its the same period of time from the time Southampton come out of administration until they played their first game in the premier league. Leeds are also on a far better standing three years after coming out of administration. Do you want me to name others..?

With debts like ours, the loss of money each week, the fact nobody was looking to take us on, means it was more than likely that we would have went into liquidation, Football clubs arent exactly let off lightly with debts as big as ours were these days! But say we didnt and went into administration, well Pompy have shown us what would have happened, and thats just painful to watch.

and you know that nobody was willing to take us on do you..? In my opinion the Malaysians were the best option at the time but now with the Premiership on the horizon there will be many more takers if it was put up for sale now especially with the Premiership pot being bigger now.

Using Pompey as an example is poor and scaremongering in my opinion because there are plenty more clubs who have comeback far stronger after entering administration. And I am also sure that there are just too many people whowould stand to lose too much money for them to chance taking the club into administration and Tan being one of them so if he wanted to walk he will sell.

name a club that has come back stronger from Administration in the time VT has owned us?

And its not scaremongering about the owners, If you can name some interested parties who in the end had the cash please name them!?

If I can answer the second question first. I can assure you that when you have someone like Keith Harris taking a keen interest in getting a buyer for the club there would have been more than one party interested.

At the time the club finished in the playoffs which was just before the playoff final in May 2010 so you are looking at 3 years ago now. In fact its the same period of time from the time Southampton come out of administration until they played their first game in the premier league. Leeds are also on a far better standing three years after coming out of administration. Do you want me to name others..?

Leeds went into Admin, and fell to League 1!! Theyve just been bought again, and straight away the owners are looking for money men to come in and help buy part of the club.

Southampton went into and out of administration in april 09. VT took over May 10!

I asked who has done better since VT has been in charge, so please name the others!

name a club that has come back stronger from Administration in the time VT has owned us?

The above question is what you asked and the time in question is 3 years!!!!

With debts like ours, the loss of money each week, the fact nobody was looking to take us on, means it was more than likely that we would have went into liquidation, Football clubs arent exactly let off lightly with debts as big as ours were these days! But say we didnt and went into administration, well Pompy have shown us what would have happened, and thats just painful to watch.

and you know that nobody was willing to take us on do you..? In my opinion the Malaysians were the best option at the time but now with the Premiership on the horizon there will be many more takers if it was put up for sale now especially with the Premiership pot being bigger now.

Using Pompey as an example is poor and scaremongering in my opinion because there are plenty more clubs who have comeback far stronger after entering administration. And I am also sure that there are just too many people whowould stand to lose too much money for them to chance taking the club into administration and Tan being one of them so if he wanted to walk he will sell.

name a club that has come back stronger from Administration in the time VT has owned us?

And its not scaremongering about the owners, If you can name some interested parties who in the end had the cash please name them!?

If I can answer the second question first. I can assure you that when you have someone like Keith Harris taking a keen interest in getting a buyer for the club there would have been more than one party interested.

At the time the club finished in the playoffs which was just before the playoff final in May 2010 so you are looking at 3 years ago now. In fact its the same period of time from the time Southampton come out of administration until they played their first game in the premier league. Leeds are also on a far better standing three years after coming out of administration. Do you want me to name others..?

Leeds went into Admin, and fell to League 1!! Theyve just been bought again, and straight away the owners are looking for money men to come in and help buy part of the club.

Southampton went into and out of administration in april 09. VT took over May 10!

I asked who has done better since VT has been in charge, so please name the others!

Leeds were always looking for future buyers because that was always the plan of Ken Bates with them but there is no doubt they are in better shape then they are now.

Others within the said 3 year period Swansea were in a better position then they were when they went into admin, others include Crawley, Crystal Palace, Bournemouth, Hull and many others.

name a club that has come back stronger from Administration in the time VT has owned us?

The above question is what you asked and the time in question is 3 years!!!!

Yes and the country, well all of Europe has gone backwards since in regards to cash, the times have changed, VT came in just as the economics of GB started to run towards rock bottom! Going into Admin pre VT years was a money saver and a cheap way of getting out of trouble without many problems. Those days changed very quickly! its not like the days Ipswich, Swansea, Derby etc did it as a quick fix... Just ask Rangers fans, Pompy fans, even Leeds fans.

name a club that has come back stronger from Administration in the time VT has owned us?

The above question is what you asked and the time in question is 3 years!!!!

Yes and the country, well all of Europe has gone backwards since in regards to cash, the times have changed, VT came in just as the economics of GB started to run towards rock bottom! Going into Admin pre VT years was a money saver and a cheap way of getting out of trouble without many problems. Those days changed very quickly! its not like the days Ipswich, Swansea, Derby etc did it as a quick fix... Just ask Rangers fans, Pompy fans, even Leeds fans.

As I say there are too many people who have too much to lose for them to let the club go into admin. There are buyers out there from all over the world who want a piece of the premiership gold rush!!!

name a club that has come back stronger from Administration in the time VT has owned us?

The above question is what you asked and the time in question is 3 years!!!!

Yes and the country, well all of Europe has gone backwards since in regards to cash, the times have changed, VT came in just as the economics of GB started to run towards rock bottom! Going into Admin pre VT years was a money saver and a cheap way of getting out of trouble without many problems. Those days changed very quickly! its not like the days Ipswich, Swansea, Derby etc did it as a quick fix... Just ask Rangers fans, Pompy fans, even Leeds fans.

As I say there are too many people who have too much to lose for them to let the club go into admin. There are buyers out there from all over the world who want a piece of the premiership gold rush!!!

But we werent close to the Premiership Gold rush when we were on the brink! If we entered administration, we would have sold our players worth anything, relied on kids, had a 10 point penalty against us and would be going backwards very quickly!

name a club that has come back stronger from Administration in the time VT has owned us?

The above question is what you asked and the time in question is 3 years!!!!

Yes and the country, well all of Europe has gone backwards since in regards to cash, the times have changed, VT came in just as the economics of GB started to run towards rock bottom! Going into Admin pre VT years was a money saver and a cheap way of getting out of trouble without many problems. Those days changed very quickly! its not like the days Ipswich, Swansea, Derby etc did it as a quick fix... Just ask Rangers fans, Pompy fans, even Leeds fans.

As I say there are too many people who have too much to lose for them to let the club go into admin. There are buyers out there from all over the world who want a piece of the premiership gold rush!!!

But we werent close to the Premiership Gold rush when we were on the brink! If we entered administration, we would have sold our players worth anything, relied on kids, had a 10 point penalty against us and would be going backwards very quickly!

You have absolutely no proof that 'going backwards very quickly' would have happened. The best way to make money in football these days is buy cheap and sell when the club is in a better position. Well there's no cheaper than a club in administration to buy and hense why there have been many big clubs having a positive outcome after getting out of admin.

name a club that has come back stronger from Administration in the time VT has owned us?

The above question is what you asked and the time in question is 3 years!!!!

Yes and the country, well all of Europe has gone backwards since in regards to cash, the times have changed, VT came in just as the economics of GB started to run towards rock bottom! Going into Admin pre VT years was a money saver and a cheap way of getting out of trouble without many problems. Those days changed very quickly! its not like the days Ipswich, Swansea, Derby etc did it as a quick fix... Just ask Rangers fans, Pompy fans, even Leeds fans.

As I say there are too many people who have too much to lose for them to let the club go into admin. There are buyers out there from all over the world who want a piece of the premiership gold rush!!!

There were plenty of people with lots to lose who were shitting themselves as they did not have the readies to keep CCCFC going into admin or worse without a 'white knight' appearing

name a club that has come back stronger from Administration in the time VT has owned us?

The above question is what you asked and the time in question is 3 years!!!!

Yes and the country, well all of Europe has gone backwards since in regards to cash, the times have changed, VT came in just as the economics of GB started to run towards rock bottom! Going into Admin pre VT years was a money saver and a cheap way of getting out of trouble without many problems. Those days changed very quickly! its not like the days Ipswich, Swansea, Derby etc did it as a quick fix... Just ask Rangers fans, Pompy fans, even Leeds fans.

As I say there are too many people who have too much to lose for them to let the club go into admin. There are buyers out there from all over the world who want a piece of the premiership gold rush!!!

But we werent close to the Premiership Gold rush when we were on the brink! If we entered administration, we would have sold our players worth anything, relied on kids, had a 10 point penalty against us and would be going backwards very quickly!

You have absolutely no proof that 'going backwards very quickly' would have happened. The best way to make money in football these days is buy cheap and sell when the club is in a better position. Well there's no cheaper than a club in administration to buy and hense why there have been many big clubs having a positive outcome after getting out of admin.

What are you on about!! Were you even around city in these days!! The club had a winding up order of just under 3 million and we couldnt afford to pay it without TAN. We were days from going under! We had 5 court appearences!!!

name a club that has come back stronger from Administration in the time VT has owned us?

The above question is what you asked and the time in question is 3 years!!!!

Yes and the country, well all of Europe has gone backwards since in regards to cash, the times have changed, VT came in just as the economics of GB started to run towards rock bottom! Going into Admin pre VT years was a money saver and a cheap way of getting out of trouble without many problems. Those days changed very quickly! its not like the days Ipswich, Swansea, Derby etc did it as a quick fix... Just ask Rangers fans, Pompy fans, even Leeds fans.

As I say there are too many people who have too much to lose for them to let the club go into admin. There are buyers out there from all over the world who want a piece of the premiership gold rush!!!

But we werent close to the Premiership Gold rush when we were on the brink! If we entered administration, we would have sold our players worth anything, relied on kids, had a 10 point penalty against us and would be going backwards very quickly!

You have absolutely no proof that 'going backwards very quickly' would have happened. The best way to make money in football these days is buy cheap and sell when the club is in a better position. Well there's no cheaper than a club in administration to buy and hense why there have been many big clubs having a positive outcome after getting out of admin.

What are you on about!! Were you even around city in these days!! The club had a winding up order of just under 3 million and we couldnt afford to pay it without TAN. We were days from going under! We had 5 court appearences!!!

I'm sorry mis-understood you I thought you were on about the Ridsdale times

i couldnt give a rats .............. prem or bust

What are you on about!! Were you even around city in these days!! The club had a winding up order of just under 3 million and we couldnt afford to pay it without TAN. We were days from going under! We had 5 court appearences!!![/quote]

I'm sorry mis-understood you I thought you were on about the Ridsdale times[/quote]

They were the Risdale times

What are you on about!! Were you even around city in these days!! The club had a winding up order of just under 3 million and we couldnt afford to pay it without TAN. We were days from going under! We had 5 court appearences!!!

I'm sorry mis-understood you I thought you were on about the Ridsdale times[/quote]

They were the Risdale times[/quote]

Exactly! Its hard work here!

What are you on about!! Were you even around city in these days!! The club had a winding up order of just under 3 million and we couldnt afford to pay it without TAN. We were days from going under! We had 5 court appearences!!!

I'm sorry mis-understood you I thought you were on about the Ridsdale times

They were the Risdale times[/quote]

Exactly! Its hard work here![/quote]

The Malaysians were already supporting the club when it was in court during those days and had indicated that they were going to put more money into the club so it wasn't as dramatic as some may think: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 557188.stm

But make no mistake about it had someone else started to invest at the same time as Tan then they would have also indicated to the club that they would have put more money into the club.