The blame lies with us.

Right I know its been done to death but at the end of the day WE are the ones to blame. We have not done enough to stop tan and his rebrand. Ranting and raving on a message board is hardly productive. When tan changes the name and believe me he will, when all the seats are changed to red, when we are no longer the team we once were yes we can all point the finger at tan but really its our fault as we have not done enough. Scarfgate proved this. The lack of voice against the rebrand has proved this. The day the kit colour was changed there should have been mass outrage but really WE (fans on the whole) just took it and accepted it. In years to come when people ask you what did you do to try and stop the re brand what will you say ?

because you've not done enough


good bye ccfc

also the fact that season tickets were renewed and we have 500 on the waiting list has made tans case even better, WE really are sell outs, we deserve everything we get.

we being fans on the whole (not you in person)

Right I know its been done to death but at the end of the day WE are the ones to blame. We have not done enough to stop tan and his rebrand. Ranting and raving on a message board is hardly productive. When tan changes the name and believe me he will, when all the seats are changed to red, when we are no longer the team we once were yes we can all point the finger at tan but really its our fault as we have not done enough. Scarfgate proved this. The lack of voice against the rebrand has proved this. The day the kit colour was changed there should have been mass outrage but really WE (fans on the whole) just took it and accepted it. In years to come when people ask you what did you do to try and stop the re brand what will you say ?

because you've not done enough


good bye ccfc

Agree . No backbone . Premier league at all cost . Red or dead is nonsense . He was never going to walk away , he can only crystallise his investment if we make the prem .

we have let this happen so we have no right to complain

Right I know its been done to death but at the end of the day WE are the ones to blame. We have not done enough to stop tan and his rebrand. Ranting and raving on a message board is hardly productive. When tan changes the name and believe me he will, when all the seats are changed to red, when we are no longer the team we once were yes we can all point the finger at tan but really its our fault as we have not done enough. Scarfgate proved this. The lack of voice against the rebrand has proved this. The day the kit colour was changed there should have been mass outrage but really WE (fans on the whole) just took it and accepted it. In years to come when people ask you what did you do to try and stop the re brand what will you say ?

because you've not done enough


good bye ccfc

IF that question were ever asked I would say I believed we had no real choice if we wanted Cardiff City to avoid administration or even worse.

But you're right it's been done to death.

In almost all walks of life you have to make sacrifices to get what you want and thats what I've done and I feel countless others have made the same decision.

Right I know its been done to death but at the end of the day WE are the ones to blame. We have not done enough to stop tan and his rebrand. Ranting and raving on a message board is hardly productive. When tan changes the name and believe me he will, when all the seats are changed to red, when we are no longer the team we once were yes we can all point the finger at tan but really its our fault as we have not done enough. Scarfgate proved this. The lack of voice against the rebrand has proved this. The day the kit colour was changed there should have been mass outrage but really WE (fans on the whole) just took it and accepted it. In years to come when people ask you what did you do to try and stop the re brand what will you say ?

because you've not done enough


good bye ccfc

how many voting rights did we have again at board level?

Zzz, all good saying this and don't get me wrong I'm 100% against the re-brand but I would love to hear what actually could have been done. If there was anything realistic that could have been done it would have, we as fans had no say then like we will have no say if Tan wants something changed in the future.

i wasnt at the brighton game but im wondering if any of the scarves ended up on the pitch?

Zzz, all good saying this and don't get me wrong I'm 100% against the re-brand but I would love to hear what actually could have been done. If there was anything realistic that could have been done it would have, we as fans had no say then like we will have no say if Tan wants something changed in the future.

fans on the whole could have;

-not attended games - a huge drop in attendances would show tan that we are not happy !
-not accept the scarves free or not !
-protest, make your voice heard !
-do anything !

but no what has been done ? moaning on a message board and a few facebook groups. Not enough was done, We as fans could of done at least something.

Fair points but are they really realistic? I also don't think there would be enough fans willing to give up their match day fix either. After all we all love watching them on a Sat. Protest, maybe but as we've seen at other clubs that tends to have a negative affect on the team. I agree with you on the scarves but they were free and people were always going up take one especially that night it was freezing. Only positive I can see out of all this is that Tan won't be here forever and the badge, colour etc should return with new owners. Who knows how long that will be though. Wonder how much 10-15k blue scarfs would cost?

Fair points but are they really realistic? I also don't think there would be enough fans willing to give up their match day fix either. After all we all love watching them on a Sat. Protest, maybe but as we've seen at other clubs that tends to have a negative affect on the team. I agree with you on the scarves but they were free and people were always going up take one especially that night it was freezing. Only positive I can see out of all this is that Tan won't be here forever and the badge, colour etc should return with new owners. Who knows how long that will be though. Wonder how much 10-15k blue scarfs would cost?

yes but it gets to me when people complain yet do nothing, more should of been done, its all just if's and but's now anyway we've lost our club, it's not coming back, tan is not going anywhere for the foreseeable future and the next owners will probably be foreign and keep what ever changes tan has made, our club is now dead, gone, good bye ccfc - worse than administration.

ccfc is now the equivalent of a zombie, still moving but dead as f**k