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How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:04 pm

Bigger than Swansea? Maybe even bigger than us? Discuss...

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:05 pm

Any club can be big with a lot of success imo

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:06 pm

Not that big since its so close to Liverpool and Manchester

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:07 pm

What would you expect them to reach in attendances if they were at our level now? 20,000? Be good to see these rise the leagues once more :)

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:07 pm

kingdong wrote:Not that big since its so close to Liverpool and Manchester



This.
And Chester splits their fan base even more.

As big as Swansea though! :lol:

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:10 pm

griff105 wrote:
kingdong wrote:Not that big since its so close to Liverpool and Manchester



As big as Swansea though! :lol:


Of course :laughing6:

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:14 pm

They have basically the whole of north wales as a fan base mind, even if a lot go to manchester, liverpool etc surely if they reached a standard prem/champ consistently this would draw reasonably big crowds?

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:15 pm

cardiffred wrote:They have basically the whole of north wales as a fan base mind, even if a lot go to manchester, liverpool etc surely if they reached a standard prem/champ consistently this would draw reasonably big crowds?


North Wales and Wrexham are massive Everton areas and have been for 50 years, unless say Tan takes over :lol:






No bigger than Peterborough or Oxford Utd.
Wrexham will never be big, been there now 17 times over the years,kept an eye on them for 40yrs. Will always be a small club.

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:15 pm

As what Annis said. Will be as big as Pboro, that's it. Pboro are fighting above their weight now I reckon.

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:17 pm

cardiffred wrote:They have basically the whole of north wales as a fan base mind, even if a lot go to manchester, liverpool etc surely if they reached a standard prem/champ consistently this would draw reasonably big crowds?

The whole of north wales = 7 farmers and 9 sheep

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:17 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
cardiffred wrote:They have basically the whole of north wales as a fan base mind, even if a lot go to manchester, liverpool etc surely if they reached a standard prem/champ consistently this would draw reasonably big crowds?


North Wales and Wrexham are massive Everton areas and have been for 50 years, unless say Tan takes over :lol:






No bigger than Peterborough or Oxford Utd.
Wrexham will never be big, been there now 17 times over the years,kept an eye on them for 40yrs. Will always be a small club.


:lol: Would love to see 3 welsh teams performing at high levels in the english tiers, I would think theyd be bigger than newport surely? :? :laughing6:

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:21 pm

talking to a chester fan down at bridgwater truck stop the other weak he was welsh from flint and hated wrexham :o strange but true :lol: :ayatollah: :malky:

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:25 pm

if tan took them over he would probably change their kit to blue to make them more appealing to cardiff fans

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:27 pm

They would be bigger than Oxford , probably like Swansea before they went up .
12-13k I would say !
They will take 25-30k to wembley soon for the final ,that shows there a decently supported club
They are averaging just under 4k in the conference that's better than us in the lower leagues :lol:

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:31 pm

The whole of north wales area, their potential catchment area,

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Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:37 pm

cardiffred wrote:The whole of north wales area, their potential catchment area,

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Yes but how many people live in that area.

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:38 pm

cardiffred wrote:The whole of north wales area, their potential catchment area,

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They could be as big as the Jacks are now, similar situation with them and west wales. But honestly I think Wrexham won't be above league one. They have been fucked around a lot in the past.

:old:

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:41 pm

I'd like to see them get promoted and win the FA Vase but hopefully they won't get any better :ayatollah:

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:53 pm

cardiffred wrote:The whole of north wales area, their potential catchment area,

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Wrexhams catchment area is nowhere near as good as that looks , half of it is snowdonia for a start where nobody lives , the far west is like saying Fishguard is in cardiff a catchment area , not really true as there no real motorway from west to east and it takes ages to cross . the southern parts of the red could easily travel to Birmingham , Shrewsbury , Chester , plus the big merseyside teams , Anglesey is full of inbreds and hillbillys who's tow trucks wouldn't get to the racecourse anyway . There fan base would be around 12k IMO as a champ team

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:31 pm

Discuss..........nope quite small to be honest always been small and punched above there weight.
Lot of respect
Cardiff/Wrexham love in

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:32 pm

That map is ace bar no one lives there also scouse and Manu up the rd :(

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:34 pm

placid-casual wrote:That map is ace bar no one lives there also scouse and Manu up the rd :(


Thats the main reason why they arent bigger than what they are tbh.

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:41 pm

Been going years in the 70's they were a great little club but they don't have the support just like Newport slightly better supported but will never be big, the plastics up there are into Man U Liverpool end of. Sad really

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:42 pm

kingdong wrote:
cardiffred wrote:The whole of north wales area, their potential catchment area,

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Yes but how many people live in that area.


Eleven.

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:44 pm

placid-casual wrote:Been going years in the 70's they were a great little club but they don't have the support just like Newport slightly better supported but will never be big, the plastics up there are into Man U Liverpool end of. Sad really


Plastics? I don't know about that it's the same distance from the valleys to here than it is from Liverpool to Wrexham. Should everyone in the valleys support Merthyr Town?

:old:

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:47 pm

Historically Merthyr and the valleys followed cardiff ask your dad :)

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:50 pm

placid-casual wrote:Historically Merthyr and the valleys followed cardiff ask your dad :)


Historically North Wales has been hugely associated with Liverpool as a city as well as the two Liverpool clubs. It's close, hardly glory hunting. You should see the amount of busses both clubs get from North Wales each match day.

:old:

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:00 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
cardiffred wrote:They have basically the whole of north wales as a fan base mind, even if a lot go to manchester, liverpool etc surely if they reached a standard prem/champ consistently this would draw reasonably big crowds?


North Wales and Wrexham are massive Everton areas and have been for 50 years, unless say Tan takes over :lol:






No bigger than Peterborough or Oxford Utd.
Wrexham will never be big, been there now 17 times over the years,kept an eye on them for 40yrs. Will always be a small club.

Try about 90 to 100 years annis......my grandfather worked in the slate quarries in Ffestiniog and loads of miners would travel to see Everton, just after the First World War.

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:01 pm

Hoochie Coochie Blues wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
cardiffred wrote:They have basically the whole of north wales as a fan base mind, even if a lot go to manchester, liverpool etc surely if they reached a standard prem/champ consistently this would draw reasonably big crowds?


North Wales and Wrexham are massive Everton areas and have been for 50 years, unless say Tan takes over :lol:






No bigger than Peterborough or Oxford Utd.
Wrexham will never be big, been there now 17 times over the years,kept an eye on them for 40yrs. Will always be a small club.

Try about 90 to 100 years annis......my grandfather worked in the slate quarries in Ffestiniog and loads of miners would travel to see Everton, just after the First World War.

:lol:

I nearly said a lot longer :malky:

Re: How big could wrexham be?

Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:41 pm

Was always amazed how poor their support was,put another way shit.